Why most F2P games are dead/dying ?

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I have recently noticed that all F2P games` player base is dying (for most F2P games not all of them ofcourse) like only 1 of 1000 F2P games is kinda alive... Like why there are no F2P / P2W good games

[Start_Running]

Because people only have so much time to spend on a game before a new shiny comes along.

[Zefar]

1: Most of them rely on far too repetitive content with little feel to it.
2: The skill/stat system is boring and generic with no way to make yourself really powerful.
3: Pay to win items.


Warframe does not sport these things. It has quite a lot of different content and bosses to fight. You can mod your warframe to such levels that it will be a God for anything other than the highest level content.
You generally pay to skip delay timers.

Warframe is high up on the Steam charts for a reason too.

[cinedine]

Because only 1 in a thousand is the big hit? There are thousands of F2P games out there, only a handful well known though. And at some point the studios focus on other projects.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Цитата допису JackHammer:

Like why there are no ...... P2W good games

When was pay to win ever good?

[family]

Doesnt surprise me. lol

F2P is a gateway for exploiters and cheaters.

Some people out there just want to abuse things without consequences just because it's free and it doesnt cost them anything. Just to get a "high."

And as long as they can get a "fix" on the low price of "free"
They keep doing it over and over just screw over and take advantage of the system.

Also Most F2p's rely on Microtransactions.

Kinda kills the charm. Dont you think?
Its free. But not so free.

If you want to enjoy the game and experience the most; PAY.


No such thing as a free lunch, kid.
Everything comes at a cost because thats just how the system works.

In order to keep their business model as "free"

You gotta get the money somehow.
Money pays the bills.
Once those are meant. Its time to chase after the profits.

And then microtransactions and P2W business models ensues.

[Hinsonator]

Because the people that are pushing F2P for the most part aren't actually passionate about F2P games, or well gaming in general.

There are your PSForevers (a fanmade Planetside server) and Warframes but for every PSForever there's at least 4 Planetside 2s gearing up to shut PS down and steal it's thunder.

[8ullfrog]

I've noticed that the pay 2 win stuff just stacks and stacks, and slowly features that were attractive are removed because they'd rather hire people to work on cash shop items than work on legacy code.

For example, the foundry in STO used to allow users to make their own missions, but it was removed. Meanwhile, they crap out ugly discovery ships for real money fairly frequently.

Heck, they even nerf old cash shop items to try and funnel people towards the new cash shop stuff.

[secuda]

May due to hundreds of different things.
devs are breaking the game with an uppdate and dont fix it
devs dont take action against cheaters
same with Toxic playerbase
Unknown game amongs a hundreds of games each week being released.
Adding PW stuff and dont uppdate the older one.

[Garou]

One reason is probably the grind they make you go through for even the tiniest vanity items.
Not to mention the scuffing of base game and cutting out content which should be included by default. Path of Exile only has 4 small tabs to store your items for all characters. You have to buy more or you will need to throw away/sell things.

P.s not saying that PoE is dying. But the way they handle paid content is annoying.

[8ullfrog]

I don't mind grinding, but I despise token rewards, where they say "This weekend we're collecting Turdrathi tokens! And if you don't get enough, your project will vanish!"

Frak that noise. Weird how I'm fine collecting 10 fish scale, but put a timer on it and I despise the developer.

[family]

Цитата допису secuda:

May due to hundreds of different things.
devs are breaking the game with an uppdate and dont fix it
devs dont take action against cheaters
same with Toxic playerbase
Unknown game amongs a hundreds of games each week being released.
Adding PW stuff and dont uppdate the older one.

No its actually the company changed priority and rather find ways to farm instant-cash and take the money and run rather than play the long game and try to develop a reputable business that would garner them millions for decades and increase their life as a business.

I can think of several games that way; a certain fps shooter that has made a goldmine with skins. Lol

They are slow to create any useful updates and fix the game. But will pump out a skins update or a new case in mere hours because they know it will get them instant sales.

I forgot what the term is in business. Its like a type of tactic where you shell out a cheap interesting product that garners lots of attention to keep client interest so they can stall for time to finish their real project.

It also nets them instant profit in the next few days to gain more income to provide for their budget.

Cause almost all companies only care about their bottomline and how much profit they get over cost.

No such thing as a free lunch.

[Ganger]

They are some great F2P games that have really high player counts and are clearly not dieding anytime soon.

CSGO
Fortnite
World of Tanks
Warframes
Apex legends (still new)

Can't think of any other because I tend not to play F2P games much.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Цитата допису Original founder of NEKO OTAKU:

Цитата допису secuda:

May due to hundreds of different things.
devs are breaking the game with an uppdate and dont fix it
devs dont take action against cheaters
same with Toxic playerbase
Unknown game amongs a hundreds of games each week being released.
Adding PW stuff and dont uppdate the older one.

No its actually the company changed priority and rather find ways to farm instant-cash and take the money and run rather than play the long game and try to develop a reputable business that would garner them millions for decades and increase their life as a business.

I can think of several games that way; a certain fps shooter that has made a goldmine with skins. Lol

They are slow to create any useful updates and fix the game. But will pump out a skins update or a new case in mere hours because they know it will get them instant sales.

I forgot what the term is in business. Its like a type of tactic where you shell out a cheap interesting product that garners lots of attention to keep client interest so they can stall for time to finish their real project.

It also nets them instant profit in the next few days to gain more income to provide for their budget.

Cause almost all companies only care about their bottomline and how much profit they get over cost.

No such thing as a free lunch.

If all you need to pay for are skins that you dont need to buy, its a good f2p game.
Dont know what you tried to say here.
Its a free game.

Also there are other games that you could get for free at times.

[Redrusty66]

and so it begins.........I'm so excited, the lobbyist will fight it like hell-ooo....but Sooner or later we'll get this done, Biiggest cancer to the gaming industry is the predatory micro-trans....
even though it isn't JUST f2p games, they are the worst, and I hope it gets paid games as well, such as Anthem and BO4...a reckoning is coming....
EA, Bethesda & Activision's Worst Nightmare! USA Bill Announced To BAN Loot Boxes & P2W Features!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npRcdl3f6iU

[8ullfrog]

What a stupid name for the bill. shades of Helen Lovejoy.