Triggered by the Team Corgi nerf

[Shrill]

As someone who genuinely picked Team Corgi because Corgi's are awesome dogs, and not just because of some meme thing, I'm kinda triggered that valve have now rigged the competition against them.

"We’ve made some back-end changes to help mitigate some of the snowball effects we’ve seen that have led to Team Corgi running away with the first two days of the races despite their tiny legs."

Source

Doesn't matter though, we're still winning even with 29k attacks against us.

[Shotgun]

Mass player events with player-driven teams simply don't work, because a handicap will always be needed. That's why the Clicker mini-game sale and the Saliens sale were good events, and the Great Summer Race (or whatever it was called), and this one, are largely dissatisfying.

Should have just had a player team race against four computer teams. PvP is great, but only when you have a proper infrastructure for it in place.

[Veelink]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Shotgun:

Mass player events with player-driven teams simply don't work, because a handicap will always be needed. That's why the Clicker mini-game sale and the Saliens sale were good events, and the Great Summer Race (or whatever it was called), and this one, are largely dissatisfying.

Should have just had a player team race against four computer teams. PvP is great, but only when you have a proper infrastructure for it in place.

Absolute this ^

[Alzakiel]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Therontakai:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Shortwing the Avali:

Rigging against the group whose members have the smallest possibility of winning an individual prize not a crime to you? Just because Corgi is the safest bet doesn't mean it is the greatest bet.

Or it was the safest until Valve said "Yeah no, f--- the system we developed. Let's rig this game like a casino."

So how's the house win here? the prizes get handed out whether or not corgi is in first place, just means someone other than corgi can get it.

By the way corgi should be just as upset over the lead corgi had anyway. Everyone wants to go "corgi has too many members to matter if they have first place! waaahh!" nobody pays attention to the fact that if corgi wasn't so far ahead so many people wouldn't have joined and watered down the loot pool further. Now people who are coming in late are joining other teams because corgi isn't first place anymore.

It's just more proof of how conceited people in the corgi camp are.

It doesn't make it right to be rigging it up though. If they wanted to really make it fair, they just had to give everyone a team choosen randomly. Otherwise ♥♥♥♥ off with that BS. It's probably the worst fix they could have come with.

[*P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Toast:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mr T.T:

Simply, we're screwed. Valve is God. Lord Gaben is Jesus. You don't win against the Almighty.

Or maybe you are just over-reacting, and maybe there weren't ever any legal grounds for a class action lawsuit anyway. Just a thought...

But in all seriousness, the whole binding arbitration section is garbage and I hate it.

As far as I know these arbitration terms are void in certain countries. Subway tried the same in germany and failed in the courts. Lot of european laws consider TOS parts void if they collide with existing laws or are against public policy .

[Therontakai]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Alzakiel:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Therontakai:

So how's the house win here? the prizes get handed out whether or not corgi is in first place, just means someone other than corgi can get it.

By the way corgi should be just as upset over the lead corgi had anyway. Everyone wants to go "corgi has too many members to matter if they have first place! waaahh!" nobody pays attention to the fact that if corgi wasn't so far ahead so many people wouldn't have joined and watered down the loot pool further. Now people who are coming in late are joining other teams because corgi isn't first place anymore.

It's just more proof of how conceited people in the corgi camp are.

It doesn't make it right to be rigging it up though. If they wanted to really make it fair, they just had to give everyone a team choosen randomly. Otherwise ♥♥♥♥ off with that BS.

Where did i say it should be rigged up.

You want to tell me to ♥♥♥♥ off, but you didn't even respond to ANYTHING i said.

Feel free to tell me where i said they should be allowed to rig it?

Now how about you feel free to tell me how the house wins here, since the house still has to hand out the prizes, no matter who is in first, second and third.

[Paul D.]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Toast:

"YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AND VALVE ARE GIVING UP THE RIGHT TO SUE IN COURT AND TO HAVE A TRIAL BEFORE A JUDGE OR JURY."

YOU MUST GIVE US ALL YOUR MONIES AND NEVER SUE US

lol yeah ofc I think you could sue them just for putting that in there

[On Vacation]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Paul:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Toast:

"YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AND VALVE ARE GIVING UP THE RIGHT TO SUE IN COURT AND TO HAVE A TRIAL BEFORE A JUDGE OR JURY."

YOU MUST GIVE US ALL YOUR MONIES AND NEVER SUE US

lol yeah ofc I think you could sue them just for putting that in there

You could certainly try it. You can try it for anything after all, but you wouldn't win because an arbitration clause is perfectly legal.

[Baines]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Bloodletting Finale:

You only get 100 points from the games with steam achivements instead of a lot of points.
sad face.

That's not a nerf; that's how it worked from the start. You can only claim up to your Capacity in points, and Capacity itself is lost with Boosting. You only get +100 Capacity per day for free, with any additional Capacity only coming through buying stuff during the sale. (Valve did give participants a bonus 2000 Capacity as an apology for how badly the Grand Prix was handled at the start.)

Confusion was caused by Valve awarding people wildly different starting Capacities, based on how much they'd spent on Steam since the Lunar sale. Some people only got a few thousand points of starting Capacity, while others received tens of thousands of points.

EDIT: Though some people have made it sound like the very beginning of the event didn't care about Capacity? That could you directly convert any amount of Achievement "points" to Boost, without the majority being lost?

[Sleepy Yoshi]

I'd be drowning in single's if I had a dollar for every time someone mentioned suing Valve for x random illegal thing they're doing.

My Corgi would have bling for days.

[Therontakai]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Sleepy Yoshi:

I'd be drowning in single's if I had a dollar for every time someone mentioned suing Valve for x random illegal thing they're doing.

My Corgi would have bling for days.

Hell. you'd be richer than bill gates if you just earned a penny every time someone threatened to sue valve for some superfluous reason.

[omally72]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Hyphae:

So TL:DR of this thread:

If Team Corgi is not permanently in the lead by a huge stretch, the game is rigged!

No, the game is rigged because Valve rigged it. Nobody on Corgi did anything wrong - they didn't cheat or game the system, all they did was follow the rules and pick a team. The only reason Corgi won was because of Valve's utter incompetence in creating their game. Everybody on Corgi was already at a disadvantage, because even though their numbers ensured a team win, those same numbers also reduced their chances of game selection to much, much lower than the other teams - that was a trade-off. Then a bunch of butthurt people on the other teams whined about how unfair it all was, and Valve's answer was to arbitrarily punish people who hadn't done anything wrong. Now Corgi is doubly disadvantaged - they're likely to lose many, if not all, the races from here on, and in addition they're individually far less likely to be selected for a game on the off-chance they end up in 2nd or 3rd. Corgi people don't deserve that just because they happened to pick the most populated team.

[𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย omally72:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Hyphae:

So TL:DR of this thread:

If Team Corgi is not permanently in the lead by a huge stretch, the game is rigged!

No, the game is rigged because Valve rigged it. Nobody on Corgi did anything wrong - they didn't cheat or game the system, all they did was follow the rules and pick a team. The only reason Corgi won was because of Valve's utter incompetence in creating their game. Everybody on Corgi was already at a disadvantage, because even though their numbers ensured a team win, those same numbers also reduced their chances of game selection to much, much lower than the other teams - that was a trade-off. Then a bunch of butthurt people on the other teams whined about how unfair it all was, and Valve's answer was to arbitrarily punish people who hadn't done anything wrong. Now Corgi is doubly disadvantaged - they're likely to lose many, if not all, the races from here on, and in addition they're individually far less likely to be selected for a game on the off-chance they end up in 2nd or 3rd. Corgi people don't deserve that just because they happened to pick the most populated team.

Exactly punish the people who participate in the event who do nothing wrong but don't fix your event that clearly had not been tested or had any reasonable effort put in.

[Therontakai]

Exactly! How dare people who joined a team solely because it's winning- i mean totally-totally joined because dogs are so kawaii and and not at all because they were winning! yeah! NOT because they were winning!! Corgi are just the best dogs in the universe! that's all!

Nope. Been too many obnoxious corgi crew going through the forums posting how the other teams are just "salty" that they didn't pick corgi. Hell. Some of it's threads NOT connected to the event. Corgi got their massive lead early on and while some of those people might have picked it because they liked corgis, once the lead was well established, people began picking them because it was the only position guaranteed to win.

Once again as well. You didn't hear people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about the watered down chances of winning the loot until they were suddenly not in first place. Then suddenly "why are you picking on corgi! the game is rigged! We were in first but that doesn't matter because we have so many people the chances of us winning a prize ourselves was astronomically low!!"

And then as well the moment corgi takes the lead you see these same people go around saying "corgi da best! corgiicons everywhere! other teams mad!"

[𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Hyphae:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย omally72:

No, the game is rigged because Valve rigged it. Nobody on Corgi did anything wrong - they didn't cheat or game the system, all they did was follow the rules and pick a team. The only reason Corgi won was because of Valve's utter incompetence in creating their game. Everybody on Corgi was already at a disadvantage, because even though their numbers ensured a team win, those same numbers also reduced their chances of game selection to much, much lower than the other teams - that was a trade-off. Then a bunch of butthurt people on the other teams whined about how unfair it all was, and Valve's answer was to arbitrarily punish people who hadn't done anything wrong. Now Corgi is doubly disadvantaged - they're likely to lose many, if not all, the races from here on, and in addition they're individually far less likely to be selected for a game on the off-chance they end up in 2nd or 3rd. Corgi people don't deserve that just because they happened to pick the most populated team.

I won't argue, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But what you are saying is that because the event was unbalanced from the beginning, team Corgi should reap the benefits of that massive advantage the whole way through, based on an unbalanced game.

And by Valve balancing it, that is not fair to team Corgi and all the Corgi lads, who just so happened to choose the team because Corgies are so precious. NOT because they were literally 20x in the lead, that was just a convenient coincidence.

OK.

That is not a valid arguement at all as corgi has so many more people therefore people are less likely to get a wish list game, the advantage is barely anything the real advantage is actually being in a team of 2nd place or 3rd as you then have a MUCH higher chance. Don't act like this is actually and advantage. Regardless of why people choose which team it wouldnt matter as that is the point of the race. if people were smart they wouldnt even have tried to complain about corgi and focused on other teams as corgi had a disadvantage already. Nerfing this team which will now make them not even win at all is just the dumbest move as now the massive amount of people in that team WHO DID NOTHING WRONG regardless of what you say are punished because of valves garbage event. This nerf will just destroy everyone in team corgi for no reason and is just a result of a no effort fix to a an event with no effort put in it.

[𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Therontakai:

Exactly! How dare people who joined a team solely because it's winning- i mean totally-totally joined because dogs are so kawaii and and not at all because they were winning! yeah! NOT because they were winning!! Corgi are just the best dogs in the universe! that's all!

Nope. Been too many obnoxious corgi crew going through the forums posting how the other teams are just "salty" that they didn't pick corgi. Hell. Some of it's threads NOT connected to the event. Corgi got their massive lead early on and while some of those people might have picked it because they liked corgis, once the lead was well established, people began picking them because it was the only position guaranteed to win.

Once again as well. You didn't hear people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about the watered down chances of winning the loot until they were suddenly not in first place. Then suddenly "why are you picking on corgi! the game is rigged! We were in first but that doesn't matter because we have so many people the chances of us winning a prize ourselves was astronomically low!!"

And then as well the moment corgi takes the lead you see these same people go around saying "corgi da best! corgiicons everywhere! other teams mad!"

Your only arguement is flawed accept it stop just acting like corgi is in the wrong bro its valves fault for this ♥♥♥♥ tier event