Price in Asia is 50% compare to Europe

[ToolmanSpain[DK]]

Why is it That game Price in Phillippines is almost Half, compare to Price in Europe? And cant use paymentcard from Europe if the account is in Asia, it is a intl. World and Steam try to limit us, same is People from some Asian country cant send games as gifts to friends in Europe or USA..it is diskrimination against People from western world

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

1. Prices are set by the developers/publishers for each region.

2. You must have a payment method from the country you are in to use it on Steam. Refer to this.

3. If the difference in price between the 2 steam stores after currency conversion is greater than 10% you can not gift the game. Higher or lower.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by ToolmanSpainDK:

it is diskrimination against People from western world

Wow, you call it a discrimination against you, because in low income countries they have to pay less.

[ToolmanSpain[DK]]

So you Think it is ok pay more because your salary is higher than some area, so why not have shops With different pricetags, depending on what passport you Can show, it is same politic, as you Think is ok here in steamshop,.

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

Originally posted by ToolmanSpainDK:

it is diskrimination against People from western world

Wow, you call it a discrimination against you, because in low income countries they have to pay less.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by ToolmanSpainDK:

So you Think it is ok pay more because your salary is higher than some area, so why not have shops With different pricetags, depending on what passport you Can show, it is same politic, as you Think is ok here in steamshop,.

It is already like that and based on where you are making the purchase from, just like on Steam.

Just because a candy bar is $1 in your home country does not mean you can buy it for the same price if you go to another country where the prices is higher.

Try going down the Steet, show them your passport and demand the cheaper price.

[Rio]

One difference with the candy bar is that it needed to be shipped from its place of production. Digital goods cost very little to ship.

That candy bar also cost money to make every time. That game only cost money to make until a final version is reached.

And you can take that candy bar, read the ingrediants list, copy it an add something to it and sell it as a new good. But if you take that game, copy it and add something to it, you cannot.

And that candy bar maintains its value for a while. But the digital good has no value once bought. Its worse than the loss of buying a new car and driving it off the lot.

We all know why some regions have lower prices. A dev makes a game for a target market like america or japan or china or eruope where people have money. After that the dev wants more money, but poorer countries can't afford it. So they lower the price (Because they can, as digital goods don't cost much to copy) to make whatever they can get. Sometimes they even let fans do the translation for them (Without compensation of course, similar to modders).

Some people can't afford the prices in the expensive countries or want a better deal. So they go for another countries version. The Dev still gets paid, just less, But if you close up this loop hole, are these people going to buy? Or will they not pay at all now and the devs will get nothing?

It can be quite frustrating for sure to know some countries can buy a year of food for what I spend for lunch at a 7-11. And if I saved up every penny and retired at 40 I might live like a king in one of those places.

Wages in some states in say america can be wildly different. Min wage in some is 7 dollars, others its 10 and some even want 15. When is it going to become we can't gift if we are from a different usa state?


Anyways, the new gifting restriction is very "nationalist" as you know you'll be able to gift people in your own reigion very easily. And any other friend from anywhere else you won't know. Maybe a friend you make today in one country has an economic change and you can no longer gift one another?

Its a very pro dev change. but what are you gonna do? If you chase all the devs from steam, your just left with steam direct's "master pieces".

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by Sashie:

One difference with the candy bar is that it needed to be shipped from its place of production. Digital goods cost very little to ship.

That candy bar also cost money to make every time. That game only cost money to make until a final version is reached.

And you can take that candy bar, read the ingrediants list, copy it an add something to it and sell it as a new good. But if you take that game, copy it and add something to it, you cannot.

And that candy bar maintains its value for a while. But the digital good has no value once bought. Its worse than the loss of buying a new car and driving it off the lot.

We all know why some regions have lower prices. A dev makes a game for a target market like america or japan or china or eruope where people have money. After that the dev wants more money, but poorer countries can't afford it. So they lower the price (Because they can, as digital goods don't cost much to copy) to make whatever they can get. Sometimes they even let fans do the translation for them (Without compensation of course, similar to modders).

Some people can't afford the prices in the expensive countries or want a better deal. So they go for another countries version. The Dev still gets paid, just less, But if you close up this loop hole, are these people going to buy? Or will they not pay at all now and the devs will get nothing?

It can be quite frustrating for sure to know some countries can buy a year of food for what I spend for lunch at a 7-11. And if I saved up every penny and retired at 40 I might live like a king in one of those places.

Wages in some states in say america can be wildly different. Min wage in some is 7 dollars, others its 10 and some even want 15. When is it going to become we can't gift if we are from a different usa state?


Anyways, the new gifting restriction is very "nationalist" as you know you'll be able to gift people in your own reigion very easily. And any other friend from anywhere else you won't know. Maybe a friend you make today in one country has an economic change and you can no longer gift one another?

Its a very pro dev change. but what are you gonna do? If you chase all the devs from steam, your just left with steam direct's "master pieces".

That doesn't matter though. The final price is still decided by the location it is sold at.

The developer needs to get money. That candy? That cost a few dimes to make and ship. That game? That can cost millions for a single game and if they don't sell, the studio goes under and there are no further games made and no support for current games.

Reginal pricing is fair for the most part and satisfy the majority of both parties.

Good luck living like a king though. It isn't that easy as you won't have access to those luxuries you are used to where you currently are. There are reasons why things are cheaper and it is usualy not good ones.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by ToolmanSpainDK:

So you Think it is ok pay more because your salary is higher than some area, so why not have shops With different pricetags, depending on what passport you Can show, it is same politic, as you Think is ok here in steamshop,.

Wait, you are fine with getting a better salary.
But you want to pay the lowest price taken somewhere else on the planet, where people only earn a fraction of that in average?

You should make a demonstration in front of your local stores. Demanding to pay the prices people pay in poor countries. Because you feel discriminated.


That aside.
The gifting restrictions were a bad move.
People trying to get financial gain with exploiting that most likely caused this to happen.

[Si-Fi]

Price is not entirely fair but i still tend to agree on the value on the product or goods so the only option i have is to vote with my wallet.
Now the fair trade, over the period of time, has seen some publishers relax, take a back seat and adjust the prices accordingly, wheras before, some games where heavily inflated.
Take for example, 2K, they've done it and still do it but likewise toned it down since they now understand what the actual figures turn out to be after the conversion.
So it is fair but not entirely fair.

And to note, gifting doesn't work unless you decide to send a present to someone in the same country where you reside. Best course of action would be to send them funds through Paypal so they can add it to their wallet or buy a Steam gift card, one or the other.

[Rio]

Its still a little onesided that devs can produce goods where prices are lower and outsource.

Then claim other people can't do the same with the finished product.

[Si-Fi]

Originally posted by Sashie:

Its still a little onesided that devs can produce goods where prices are lower and outsource.

Then claim other people can't do the same with the finished product.

Because they know they can make money out of it. I doubt they'd outsource it though, why would they.

Developers have to cover the costs to employ their team, software costs, and hardware costs when it comes to testing, then you have the publisher pulling the strings and dictating at the same time.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by Sashie:

Its still a little onesided that devs can produce goods where prices are lower and outsource.

Then claim other people can't do the same with the finished product.

You want to produce and outsource the finished product?

[ToolmanSpain[DK]]

The issue is, you and me go into the same shop and Want to Buy same item, but you need to pay 100 % more because you come from a Rich country, but i Get the same item cheaper, That was happening With Steam, it is the same shop we all Buy from, but some has higher pricetags because People has a bit more money, but they sell it as cheap to poor countrys, they still earn on the cheap version, but earn much more from Rich areas, That is the problem,internet is worldwide, but Price they ajust to the average income, That part they dont Want to be worldwide, a two Way politic, where all ways go as long they Get Rich..and ironic my other talk about this problem is been deletet, somebody dont like the talk about it..

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by ToolmanSpainDK:

That is the problem,internet is worldwide, but Price they ajust to the average income, That part they dont Want to be worldwide

You are jealous of poor people with low average income?
Or do you just want to profit by price from what they can pay as price?

[Astraea Kisaragi]

On other hand I paid full EU price for a CIS version game and that directly via Steam. Appreantly region change is a serious offense for users but not for developers.

[Rio]

Originally posted by Astraea Kisaragi:

On other hand I paid full EU price for a CIS version game and that directly via Steam. Appreantly region change is a serious offense for users but not for developers.

Usually how it goes. Game companies get tax havens, regular gamers don't.