Stop review bombing.

[Swing To Win]

Please stop the negative review bombing of video games. Many great indie games, EA, and even AAA games get negative review bombed over things that aren't even relevant to the gameplay. I don't really care about video game drama. It's pretty petty stuff to me. What concerns me is the credibility of reviews now. I have a hard time trusting the rating on games, because activist have exploited their credibility simply because they have a gripe with a single developer. It's all apathetic.

[Tux]

Messaggio originale di IIIStrife:

People review bomb a game due to the problem of companies actively ruining their games with say... the Creation Club. Also it's all companies pay attention to.

If companies like Bethesda paid more attention to their userbase and people also READ a few reviews before buying a game, then we wouldn't have review bombing. Instead we'd have a much better gaming industry where we wouldn't have as many people complaining about behaviour of which they've no idea why it even happens.

And if you don't know what causes a thing, you can't possibly help fix it.

I wish gamers would stop trying to discipline certain developers that clearly are not interested and instead support good developers who do good work.
gamers really need to pay more attention and take seriously the indie movement, trying to discipline these AAA developers into doing something that even if they did would not do it well anyway.

meaning you dont want to force someone to go out to dinner with you because it will not be any fun if you do.

These companies should not be disciplined, they should be ignored.

CORRECTION: my bias is in favor of indie instead of AAA but really that shouldnt matter. A gamer can not control what a developer does and even if they could that control would end up in a bad product so a gamer really should be paying more attention and plan to ignore rather than try to displine, if that make sense. in other words...dont ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ buy No Mans Sky when you know ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ good and well what is and is not in the game

[cinedine]

Messaggio originale di KEVYNE_KICKLIGHTER:

Messaggio originale di Richard Upton Pickman:

Anyone putting many workhours into a project only to learn its being torn apart is mad. That is natural but there is as you say the need to not take it personally. Something i also just remember looking at this topic is how companies have time and time again been showing games that look/play better just to release something with less fluid gameplay, worse graphics and gameplay that barely works.

It's not as bad as it used to be. Regulators put their foot down on these exaggerations of gameplay years ago, as false advertising...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxZDxWy2Lg4

And this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlVSJ0AvZe0

The games never looked nor played like that!

If they do that now, not only gamers will revolt because they lost money, the trade commissioners will get involved for false advertising again.

Yeah, that's called cinematic trailers. They never ever claimed to be in-game footage or even gameplay. It tells a lot about the customer base that nowdays there has to be a giant disclaimer stating the obvious.

[Tux]

Messaggio originale di cinedine:

Messaggio originale di KEVYNE_KICKLIGHTER:

It's not as bad as it used to be. Regulators put their foot down on these exaggerations of gameplay years ago, as false advertising...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxZDxWy2Lg4

And this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlVSJ0AvZe0

The games never looked nor played like that!

If they do that now, not only gamers will revolt because they lost money, the trade commissioners will get involved for false advertising again.

Yeah, that's called cinematic trailers. They never ever claimed to be in-game footage or even gameplay. It tells a lot about the customer base that nowdays there has to be a giant disclaimer stating the obvious.

to be frank though this is a technique that has been normalized. I recall in the 90s when I first saw something (i forget what form of media) that didnt remotely represent the game play i saw that as ridiculous, now its normal.

but what it SHOULD illustrate to people is that with the resources we have now there really isnt any excuse for not being an informed consumer.

[SpawnCap]

Credibily of Steam reviews has always been non-existent. People complaining that game doesn't start on their system because they don't have the brains to look up the requirements, or even understand them when they do. Complaining about Uplay, Bethesda, or whatever company is making the great game. Then one I really don't understand. Complain about microtransactions when most of you are the ones who made Rockstar billionaires by purchasing those same microtransactions.

Yep, if I want to know exactly nothing about the game, and just want to see whatever the current children are complaining about these days, then I look at Steam's reviews. Want to know actually something about the game then go to a console review site or watch your favorite Youtuber.

[Starnana]

Messaggio originale di Swing To Win:

Please stop the negative review bombing of video games.

Messaggio originale di Swing To Win:

EA

I don't see any problems here.

[Zeetarb]

Don't people actually have to have bought the game to leave a review?
If people are buying and immediately refunding over and over then that will stand out and can be monitored, otherwise this entire topic is fishy.

What a coincidence, game journalists who write low qualiy reviews for money, and developers of below average indie games and big budget scams all have a problem with people who bought a game and don't like it leaving negative reviews, which potential future customers can then read. Shocking.

[KEVYNE_KICKLIGHTER]

Messaggio originale di SpicyPepperoni:

Review bombing is disgusting in any case, bunch of sjw garbage.

Meanwhile, ask Gamergaters about their SJW garbage. They're SJWs too............

(More political threads allowed to remain open, when there's clear political cross talk from Alt-Right/Gamergate elements in Steam threads).

[Jerry]

http://steamcommunity.com/ogg/593110/announcements/detail/1448326897426987372

Topic solved, I'd say.

[鬼椒]

Don't know if this is the appropriate place but I just checked out the new graphs and I actually love them. Even if it doesn't answer all my questions it gives me a good idea of important checkpoints on a games history.

Dead by Daylight for example even mentioned

"High Volume of Negative Reviews Detected: Sep 15 - Sep 18"

It was a free weekend but I already knew that.

Which makes me take a look at that date to see what the big deal was but outside of that it overall has a good mark. I can see myself using this feature quite a bit for future purchases.

[KEVYNE_KICKLIGHTER]

Messaggio originale di Jerry:

http://steamcommunity.com/ogg/593110/announcements/detail/1448326897426987372

Topic solved, I'd say.

It's a start. But still looking for...

A neutral rating option, for the "meh" games.

A quick rating system for game features -- overall design; story; graphics; music, etc categories (as this can be datamined for folks looking exactly for tose features, too).

[鬼椒]

Messaggio originale di KEVYNE_KICKLIGHTER:

Messaggio originale di Jerry:

http://steamcommunity.com/ogg/593110/announcements/detail/1448326897426987372

Topic solved, I'd say.

It's a start. But still looking for...

A neutral rating option, for the "meh" games.

A quick rating system for game features -- overall design; story; graphics; music, etc categories (as this can be datamined for folks looking exactly for tose features, too).

Curated reviews can give neutral reviews for technical stuff and I'd like such an option for users as well.

Also a visible character limit count when editing reviews to know how many characters are left.

Please get on it Valve, thanks.

[KEVYNE_KICKLIGHTER]

Without neutral ratings the review numbers and where they lead is a disservice, because 4/5/6 ratings on Steam either is a thumbs up or down, when the gamer is really on the fence about a game.

Only up/down ratings is data that pleases no one in the end.

[Tux]

Messaggio originale di KEVYNE_KICKLIGHTER:

Without neutral ratings the review numbers and where they lead is a disservice, because 4/5/6 ratings on Steam either is a thumbs up or down, when the gamer is really on the fence about a game.

Only up/down ratings is data that pleases no one in the end.

and now Netflix has moved to that same system and its sucks

[KEVYNE_KICKLIGHTER]

Messaggio originale di SpawnCap:

Yep, if I want to know exactly nothing about the game, and just want to see whatever the current children are complaining about these days, then I look at Steam's reviews. Want to know actually something about the game then go to a console review site or watch your favorite Youtuber.

Well, sometimes you're looking for a specific type of genre of game and want know if it's like XYZ game or not. Reviews are the only way to find out without paying.

I was looking at sub simulators similar to what Ubisoft made, and when reviews of similar games claimed it did not play like the Ubisoft game (with specific examples), those reviews were essential in being totally dissatisfied and writing a down vote review due to hype reviews; and an up vote for a game that meets or exceeds expectations.

Saves a lot of time and grief with a more accurate rating system.

[Totsugeki]

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