cold iron carver or ascended calibur

[Fliege]

wich one is better if I am going for the lvl 5 sword.

I now have the tempered calibur

[Tofu]

Cold cuz it has bonus damage to undead not like the other one.

[Andrey]

Dont craft calibur past 3*. It will be wasting of orbs. This is good sword for Tier 2 but in Tier 3 you need Acheron and Combuster.

PS/ Cold Iron Vanquisher is beautifull sword but common Leviathan Blade is better i think. First one deal more damage to undead but less damage to all other enemies. (Also damage bonus have cap = +6 so with maximum damage bonus Leviathan Blade is more powerfull than Cold Iron Vanquisher because it have better base damage.)

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Publicado originalmente por Mira & Ela:

Cold cuz it has bonus damage to undead not like the other one.

You do realize that they don't give it a bonus for no reason. Leviathan blade may not have as much damage against Undead but it is a higher damage overall to compensate. That's why nobody uses cold iron Carver. It's inferior to basically any Elemental weapon

Publicado originalmente por Andrey:

in Tier 3 you need Acheron and Combuster.

No you don't. There's plenty of other Shadow and elemental weapons that aren't overused. And there's also weapons that aren't swords.

[Fliege]

hey thanks for the answers but I just got more confused. so leviathan or not?

[Sebastian]

Publicado originalmente por eonetyk:

hey thanks for the answers but I just got more confused. so leviathan or not?

if you have to upgrade your calibur, go with leviathan.
but if you want something good, pick a sword that doesnt deal pure normal damage.

[Tofu]

Publicado originalmente por Andrey:

Dont craft calibur past 3*. It will be wasting of orbs. This is good sword for Tier 2 but in Tier 3 you need Acheron and Combuster.

PS/ Cold Iron Vanquisher is beautifull sword but common Leviathan Blade is better i think. First one deal more damage to undead but less damage to all other enemies. (Also damage bonus have cap = +6 so with maximum damage bonus Leviathan Blade is more powerfull than Cold Iron Vanquisher because it have better base damage.)

Nope. You're wrong. They have the same normal damage. Cold Iron Vanquisher is better cuz of its bonus high damage against undead.

[Sebastian]

Publicado originalmente por Mira & Ela:

Nope. You're wrong. They have the same normal damage. Cold Iron Vanquisher is better cuz of its bonus high damage against undead.

that is completely wrong.
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Leviathan_Blade
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Cold_Iron_Vanquisher
check for yourself, levi has more damage than CIV.

[Fliege]

ok, the thing is I already leveled my tempered calibur so I kind of "wasted" the crystals on that one. And I would have to farm advanced orbs again since I already have full 3* set. (if I would go for combuster now) I think I will farm the 2 advanced orbs I need and craft the fire brandish so I get the combuster later

[Tofu]

Publicado originalmente por Sebastian:

Publicado originalmente por Mira & Ela:

Nope. I'm not wrong. They have the same base normal damage you piece of sh*t.

look at the wiki pages I linked, it clearly shows you are wrong.

Nope. I don't need to look at it. You're the wrong. Lmao.

[Sebastian]

Publicado originalmente por eonetyk:

ok, the thing is I already leveled my tempered calibur so I kind of "wasted" the crystals on that one.

most fire crystals barely matter, especially 3* ones.

Publicado originalmente por eonetyk:

And I would have to farm advanced orbs again since I already have full 3* set. (if I would go for combuster now) I think I will farm the 2 advanced orbs I need and craft the fire brandish so I get the combuster later

you can also buy orbs from the supply depot, you dont have to directly farm them.

Publicado originalmente por Mira & Ela:

Nope. I don't need to look at it. You're the wrong. Lmao.

fine then. go prove it.

[Fliege]

ok guys ty all for the feedback, I will go for combuster now. I now have boosted plate mail armor set, do you guys think its a good idea to get the volcanic plate mail at 5* ?

[Sebastian]

Publicado originalmente por eonetyk:

ok guys ty all for the feedback, I will go for combuster now. I now have boosted plate mail armor set, do you guys think its a good idea to get the volcanic plate mail at 5* ?

plate is bad. the decreased attack speed is going to make your more vulnerable on attacks and its defense isnt great for T3. the shield is fine though.

[Fliege]

Publicado originalmente por Sebastian:

Publicado originalmente por eonetyk:

ok guys ty all for the feedback, I will go for combuster now. I now have boosted plate mail armor set, do you guys think its a good idea to get the volcanic plate mail at 5* ?

plate is bad. the decreased attack speed is going to make your more vulnerable on attacks and its defense isnt great for T3. the shield is fine though.

ok so wich armor would you suggest? I dont want to waste glowing crystals on a bad armor again

[Sebastian]

Publicado originalmente por eonetyk:

ok so wich armor would you suggest? I dont want to waste glowing crystals on a bad armor again

your main goal is to get something for FSC so you can farm that to make more 5* gear and diversify your gear selection.
so what you want is something that has fire resistance and either elemental or shadow defense. you should also pick something with offensive bonuses.
as long as you meet those criteria, pretty much anything is fine.

oh and before someone else says it, yes, chaos is an option too, but it is generally not a good idea for new players, as they cant handle it yet.

[Shamanalah]

Publicado originalmente por Mira & Ela:

Publicado originalmente por Sebastian:

look at the wiki pages I linked, it clearly shows you are wrong.

Nope. I don't need to look at it. You're the wrong. Lmao.

I mean you can believe the Earth is flat too, no one is stopping you. Doesn't make it true though.

CIV does less normal damage than Leviathan blade. It's why I crafted one and also why OOO gave a Leviathan reskin rather than a CIV for guild hall update, because Levi was terribly loved and used in the early days of SK. Even without the missions, people would normally go for a calibur. It has a nice swing delay/animation and it a right spot with the link-ish sword charge.

Family bonus doesn't stack past normal bonus. There's 6 Tier of UV: Low, Medium, High, Very High, Ultra and Max. Getting to Max (6) is the goal for everything (damage, ASI, CTR). Family bonus doesn't scale past that Max (6) threshold.

Having CIV limits yourself overall because you may want to use family bonus instead of normal bonus that are far superior. This is why people play with Swiftstrike buckler. It gives ASI High (3) to ALL weapons. Even Bombs. It counterweight it's weakness (3* shield with no resist whatsoever)