What's the best 4* piercing gun?

[teel]

I already crafted Silversix and Blackhawk. Idk if that was a mistake. Anyway i don't want to make more. So what do you think?

[Sebastian]

it depends on what you want to do with the gun.

[teel]

The thing is i can't decide. A third antigua seems like a good idea since i like it's playstyle. Mega magnus and breach blaster look cool too.

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by mihaly.csikszentmihalyi:

The thing is i can't decide. A third antigua seems like a good idea since i like it's playstyle. Mega magnus and breach blaster look cool too.

the piercing antigua never felt right to me, so I cant really recommend it. the other three piercing guns all have their strengths and weaknesses, so you should pick one of those.

[Andrey]

Strike Needle (4*) -> Blitz Needle (5*).

[teel]

The 3* Needle Shot never worked for me against wolvers and devilites. Maybe i just suck and can't use it.

[Lama051]

Originally posted by mihaly.csikszentmihalyi:

The 3* Needle Shot never worked for me against wolvers and devilites. Maybe i just suck and can't use it.

Charge it up, go backwards, they dash to you, you slaughter everything in front of you. Repeat till everything is dead

[Andrey]

Originally posted by mihaly.csikszentmihalyi:

The 3* Needle Shot never worked for me against wolvers and devilites. Maybe i just suck and can't use it.

This gun is mostly for charge atacks. But in some cases basic atack can be usefull too. But it's charge atack is long and you can't move or defend during this time. So you need to keep distance from enemies and be carefull. ASI bonus (for example from Swiftstrike buckler) make using it easier.

You need this gun to defeat last boss (Vana). And it is good agains fiends.

[Bad_Spellar]

Blitz Needle is an excellent piercing gun. The charge attack destroys Vanaduke and other high HP enemies like Battlepods (including the Warmaster Seerus pods), Maulos, trojans, etc.

Add a Chaos set to increase your attack damage and reduce the blitz charge time.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Why stop at 4*? You should be planning ahead and basing your choice on the gun's FINAL form, which will be far more important in the long run.

Originally posted by Andrey:

You need this gun to defeat last boss (Vana).

No you don't. And he's not even the last boss anymore.

[Shamanalah]

Originally posted by Sebastian:

the piercing antigua never felt right to me, so I cant really recommend it. the other three piercing guns all have their strengths and weaknesses, so you should pick one of those.

Because the old AP dealt elem and piercing damage so it was THE gun for Vanaduke and when they changed it's dmg type to only elem then it became ♥♥♥♥. That's why only piercing too doesn't feel quite as good because we had something overpowered. (I was doing 144 dmg with a single bullet to vana w/o dmg ups IIRC, it was the gun for vana because the mobility was so good)

Originally posted by mihaly.csikszentmihalyi:

The 3* Needle Shot never worked for me against wolvers and devilites. Maybe i just suck and can't use it.

There is a piercing blaster (Breach Blaster in 4*) that is a good option too. I wouldn't go for Magnus because it's a charge gun and Blitz does everything it does but better (IMO), it's rare you'll benefit from the bullet effect over Blitz insane dps.

Really up to you TBH

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Hold on, are you telling me that Riftlocker is better than Callahan?

[Hennils]

Originally posted by Batabii - ♫HIRE A SAMURAI♫:

Hold on, are you telling me that Riftlocker is better than Callahan?

Don't think they are saying that, but would still rather recommend that to a person who doesn't have any CTR boni yet.

[Zae]

Originally posted by Batabii - ♫HIRE A SAMURAI♫:

Why stop at 4*? You should be planning ahead and basing your choice on the gun's FINAL form, which will be far more important in the long run.

Originally posted by Andrey:

You need this gun to defeat last boss (Vana).

No you don't. And he's not even the last boss anymore.

What's the new last boss other than warmaster seerus and the event bosses?
Technically it is the last boss rank mission wise.

[Shamanalah]

Originally posted by Hennils:

Originally posted by Batabii - ♫HIRE A SAMURAI♫:

Hold on, are you telling me that Riftlocker is better than Callahan?

Don't think they are saying that, but would still rather recommend that to a person who doesn't have any CTR boni yet.

That.

Normally you have 0 trinket and 2 weapons. I use 1 trinket and 3 weapons to get my hybrid build with ctr max, dmg max and asi ultra.

Also Chaos is largely for people who know the game and not for people who starts. Have you played with a Blitz w/o CTR and ASI? It's atrociously slow so I get why he prefer Antigua and why I recommended Riftlocker rather than Callahan.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Hennils:

Originally posted by Batabii - ♫HIRE A SAMURAI♫:

Hold on, are you telling me that Riftlocker is better than Callahan?

Don't think they are saying that, but would still rather recommend that to a person who doesn't have any CTR boni yet.

Boni is not a word, at least not in English. And players should be planning for endgame, not cutting corners.

Originally posted by Haiseki:

What's the new last boss other than warmaster seerus and the event bosses?
Technically it is the last boss rank mission wise.

Technically, 10-2 Shadowplay has Herex, and 10-1 Breaking In The Recruits has the Collector.

The swarm might also be considered a boss of sorts, but that's neither here nor there.

Originally posted by Shamanalah:

Have you played with a Blitz w/o CTR and ASI? It's atrociously slow so I get why he prefer Antigua and why I recommended Riftlocker rather than Callahan.

I don't see how you can compare callahan to blitz needle. It holds you on place a fraction of the time that blitz does, especially on a charge, and its multi-hit "dragging" effects knockback means slowness is fairly irrelevant (especially considering it has far more damage than riftlocker, if not dps). Plus it staggers some enemies, like gremlins and wolvers.

I'm not saying it's the best piercing gun out there, but its hardly "atrocious", regardless of ASI or CTR. If you want speed, go ahead and Gilded Griffon.