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I Am Klaus Sep 8, 2017 @ 11:39am
Is any of the Deluxe Starter Pack equipment any good for T1 Lockdown?
Red Saber
Chilling Duelist
Static Flash
Tri-Guard Armor
Tri-Guard Helmet
Green Ward

Is any of this worth using in T1 PvP?
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Sebastian Sep 8, 2017 @ 11:41am 
red saber is about as good as cutter (so terrible), green ward does nothing, tri guard is better than any breaker, static flash is ok I guess, but using the CTR med fire/freeze bombs is better because they get that UV for free, duelist is like antigua.
Last edited by Sebastian; Sep 8, 2017 @ 11:41am
I Am Klaus Sep 8, 2017 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by Sebastian:
red saber is about as good as cutter (so terrible), green ward does nothing, tri guard is better than any breaker, static flash is ok I guess, but using the CTR med fire/freeze bombs is better because they get that UV for free, duelist is like antigua.

Chilling Duelist appeals to me then, because I'm a big fan of the Antigua line. If each shot has a chance of freezing, that sounds like it'd be pretty damn useful in PvP given the sheer volume of gunfire you could put out with it. I could see myself building around that. And it sounds like Tri-Guard Armor is the superior pick at the 1* level (unless Padded Armor is worth considering for a Gun build).

The choice then would be the helmet. Do I stick with Tri-Guard, do I go for Fractured Mask of Seerus, or do I go for Cyclops Cap?
Last edited by I Am Klaus; Sep 8, 2017 @ 11:51am
Sebastian Sep 8, 2017 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
The choice then would be the helmet. Do I stick with Tri-Guard, do I go for Perfect Mask of Seerus, or do I go for Cyclops Cap?
seerus is a decent choice, as it has 5* levels of shock and fire resists. unless you are up against a lot of freeze, seerus is better than tri guard. though for offense, cyclops is better for guns.

but if you are looking for good T1 PvP items, do not neglect the ASI high zapper, ASI high hatchet, prototype rocket hammer and fencing jacket.
I Am Klaus Sep 8, 2017 @ 11:54am 
Originally posted by Sebastian:
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
The choice then would be the helmet. Do I stick with Tri-Guard, do I go for Perfect Mask of Seerus, or do I go for Cyclops Cap?
seerus is a decent choice, as it has 5* levels of shock and fire resists. unless you are up against a lot of freeze, seerus is better than tri guard. though for offense, cyclops is better for guns.

but if you are looking for good T1 PvP items, do not neglect the ASI high zapper, ASI high hatchet, prototype rocket hammer and fencing jacket.

Is Padded Armor worth considering over Tri-Guard?
Sebastian Sep 8, 2017 @ 11:54am 
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
Is Padded Armor worth considering over Tri-Guard?
if you want to go full gunner, yes.
I Am Klaus Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by Sebastian:
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
Is Padded Armor worth considering over Tri-Guard?
if you want to go full gunner, yes.


So I could go:

Slot 1: Chilling Duelist
Slot 2: Zapper
Perfect Mask of Seerus or Cyclops Helmet
Padded Armor
Circuit Breaker Shield

This would do well in T1?
Sebastian Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
So I could go:

Slot 1: Chilling Duelist
Slot 2: Zapper
Perfect Mask of Seerus or Cyclops Helmet
Padded Armor
Circuit Breaker Shield

This would do well in T1?
why get a shield? and I think you mean fractured mask of seerus, not perfect.
and I guess it would work. I prefer seerus and tri or cyclops and padded to seerus and padded, but all the combos work.
I Am Klaus Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Sebastian:
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
So I could go:

Slot 1: Chilling Duelist
Slot 2: Zapper
Perfect Mask of Seerus or Cyclops Helmet
Padded Armor
Circuit Breaker Shield

This would do well in T1?
why get a shield? and I think you mean fractured mask of seerus, not perfect.
and I guess it would work. I prefer seerus and tri or cyclops and padded to seerus and padded, but all the combos work.

Why not get one? Even if it's only a tiny advantage over a Proto Shield, it's still an advantage.

Yeah, I keep confusing the two because Perfect Mask is what I run with my Gunslinger loadout.

It's all cheap stuff anyway. I guess I can run both sets. I just don't know if I'm willing to lay down $20 for the Deluxe Pack when none of the goodies it comes with are particularly appetizing. Or if I'm willing to roll 20 different Zappers until I get one with ASI High.
Last edited by I Am Klaus; Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:05pm
Sebastian Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:06pm 
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
Why not get one? Even if it's only a tiny advantage over a Proto Shield, it's still an advantage.
I thought you are talking about PvP.

Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
I just don't know if I'm willing to lay down $20 for the Deluxe Pack when none of the goodies it comes with are particularly appetizing.
then just buy the items from someone, they do arrive unbound after all.

Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
Or if I'm willing to roll 20 different Zappers until I get one with ASI High.
you get one with ASI high from missions, just like the hatchet and the CTR med bombs.
Last edited by Sebastian; Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:07pm
I Am Klaus Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:07pm 
You can't use a shield in PvP?
Sebastian Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
You can't use a shield in PvP?
have you ever played lockdown?
you dont use shields. you use special "shield" modules instead that give you special functions.
I Am Klaus Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Sebastian:
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
You can't use a shield in PvP?
have you ever played lockdown?
you dont use shields. you use special "shield" modules instead that give you special functions.

So at T2 and T3, what point is there to use any shield other than Swiftstrike or BTS?
Sebastian Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
So at T2 and T3, what point is there to use any shield other than Swiftstrike or BTS?
there is no point to any shield because you cant use a regular shield in lockdown.
I Am Klaus Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by Sebastian:
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
So at T2 and T3, what point is there to use any shield other than Swiftstrike or BTS?
there is no point to any shield because you cant use a regular shield in lockdown.

Hmm...haven't played it in a while so I guess I forgot. Good to know.

Does the mission-rewarded Zapper automatically come with ASI High? I sold it immediately once I got it, so I don't remember.
Sebastian Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:12pm 
Originally posted by Betch☢Slapem:
Does the mission-rewarded Zapper automatically come with ASI High? I sold it immediately once I got it, so I don't remember.
yes.
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