Weird smudging on face

[eglepe]

I see some strange shadows at parts that make the characters look like they haven't washed their faces in a while. Here's a screenshot showing what it looks like https://i.imgur.com/ufWz5Ll.jpeg

[Koby]

Turn off HBAO.

[eglepe]

That worked, thanks!

[That Terrible Biscuit]

yeah I get that its like some characters have some deep dimples or like a light stubble around their jaws lol

[「Lukja」]

HBAO is the poop smear filter

[Dragon]

Originally posted by eglepe:

That worked, thanks!

I wouldn't say that saying "it worked" is an accurate characterization of what happened by turning off HBAO.

It may have "worked" to remove the smudges, but it comes at the cost of making an important feature of the game become un-usable a.k.a. useless.

So then, really that's a workaround with a negative tradeoff, not a real solution.

The real solution would be for Durante to go back into the game's code and fix this problem with a patch, so that HBAO can be turned on, and there will be no smudges on any of the character's faces while it is.

And ditto he should also do that for all of the other Falcom games which he's ported which have the same and/or similar problems with HBAO.

[Koby]

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by eglepe:

That worked, thanks!

I wouldn't say that saying "it worked" is an accurate characterization of what happened by turning off HBAO.

It may have "worked" to remove the smudges, but it comes at the cost of making an important feature of the game become un-usable a.k.a. useless.

So then, really that's a workaround with a negative tradeoff, not a real solution.

The real solution would be for Durante to go back into the game's code and fix this problem with a patch, so that HBAO can be turned on, and there will be no smudges on any of the character's faces while it is.

And ditto he should also do that for all of the other Falcom games which he's ported which have the same and/or similar problems with HBAO.

Nah. Durante added various features that weren't even intended to be used at time of the release in an effort to future proof them. If you actually owned the games and played them, you filthy pirate, you'd remember the whole issue with a certain setting that was unable to be used on even the 2080ti and because people assumed max settings was the best way to go, they'd enable it, not be able to play the game, and then come to the forums to troubleshoot. So Durante was forced to remove that setting from the configuration tool, but it can still be enabled through the files.

In anycase, HBAO is a feature that has caused these smudge issues in every CS game. It's up to the player to decide if the smudges outweighs the things it improves or not. As with a lot of other things, such as AA models... there are trade offs to be had.

The alternative is to simply remove the feature completely. Because it's not Durante's job to fix texture files which is the actual problem here. He's only meant to code the port and add features... It's the same reason he couldn't apply the updated higher quality UI stuff from the fan mod for CS1&2. It's simply beyond the scope of what he is allowed to do.