PC's Stance on Blood Purity?

[GrandMajora]

Considering this game takes place roughly 2 years before Dumbledore comes to Hogwarts, and a century before the events of Harry Potter take place, I wonder how the wizarding world's stance on blood purity is going to be depicted in the game?

I mean, we can join House Slytherin, so it seems extremely unlikely that our character is going to be a mudblood. Either they're a pure blood, or at the very least half blood, given how the house has historically rejected muggle born students from being granted membership.

Not only that, but it's been confirmed the game has a morality system, where we can go down the road of good and evil. Even going so far as to learn and wield at least one of the three unforgivable curses.

So my main question is whether or not we as a player will have the option to support, or denounce the idea of witches and wizards mingling themselves with muggles?

[Late Game Wonder]

Publicado originalmente por Yasha:

Publicado originalmente por Machika:

You don't have to be a bad person or evil to be in Slytherin. You could be light side "Jedi" and still be in Slytherin or full blown "Sith" and be in Hufflepuff. Maybe your a goodie two shoes and like the color green and snakes.

Yes you do. The fandom has this bizarre idea that Slytherins can be like, normal people, but if you actually read the books literally every Slytherin character is a psycho wizard nazi that is cartoonishly racist all the time. It's the Evil House for the wizard nazis. That's all it. It's where all the cartoon supervillains go for the good guys to beat.

It is funny that you say read the books...when literally the entire point of the books in the last few volumes is to prove that Slytherins are not all evil and gryffindors are not all saints.
Peter Pettigrew is a Gryffindor, Harry's son a Slytherin.
Lockheart a ravenclaw.
But you clearly have a better understanding of the lore and the books than little old me that has read them each more than 20 times cover to cover.

Dumbledore literally points out that if it was to him he would have abolished the sorting hat system and break this mold because of this very reason.

[GrandMajora]

It's not that they can't be good / evil, but rather the personality quirks that the Houses look for tends to drive its members towards certain stereotypes.

In the case of Slytherin, they tend to look for people who are emotionally repressed, and willing to use any means to achieve their goals.

Just look at Professor Snape as a perfect example of this. He was obligated to do many terrible things while he was deep undercover with the Death Eaters. But he managed to put his ethics aside and tough it out for the sake of the mission, because he understood the risks and what the consequences of failure would be.

[𝙹𝚎𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛]

Publicado originalmente por Late Game Wonder:

Publicado originalmente por Yasha:

Yes you do. The fandom has this bizarre idea that Slytherins can be like, normal people, but if you actually read the books literally every Slytherin character is a psycho wizard nazi that is cartoonishly racist all the time. It's the Evil House for the wizard nazis. That's all it. It's where all the cartoon supervillains go for the good guys to beat.

It is funny that you say read the books...when literally the entire point of the books in the last few volumes is to prove that Slytherins are not all evil and gryffindors are not all saints.
Peter Pettigrew is a Gryffindor, Harry's son a Slytherin.
Lockheart a ravenclaw.
But you clearly have a better understanding of the lore and the books than little old me that has read them each more than 20 times cover to cover.

Dumbledore literally points out that if it was to him he would have abolished the sorting hat system and break this mold because of this very reason.

Also Slughorn and Scorpius, the latter especially is described as an incredibly kind boy.

[Yasha]

Publicado originalmente por Late Game Wonder:

It is funny that you say read the books...when literally the entire point of the books in the last few volumes is to prove that Slytherins are not all evil and gryffindors are not all saints.
Peter Pettigrew is a Gryffindor, Harry's son a Slytherin.
Lockheart a ravenclaw.
But you clearly have a better understanding of the lore and the books than little old me that has read them each more than 20 times cover to cover.

Dumbledore literally points out that if it was to him he would have abolished the sorting hat system and break this mold because of this very reason.

In Deathly Hallows nearly every single Slytherin at the end chooses to not fight with Harry lmao. Granted, DH is a complete trainwreck like every book past 4, but it's still canon. Outside of a few characters who exist solely to pretend that they aren't, Gryffindors are saintly heroes who can do no wrong and Slytherins are all cartoon supervillains. These books are not that complex, my dude. They are extremely simplistic children's novels written by a neoliberal christian terf that start out charming and then completely derail into plot hole riddled disasters.

Reading all the books over and over means little. Most HP fans are terrible at actually analyzing stories because they've barely read anything else. I'd recommend a podcast called the Shrieking Shack, where two people who used to be HP fans go back and went through all the books and movies and discussed them. It's the best HP analysis I've seen yet. Once you actually go back and read these books with a critical eye you realize how incredibly poorly written they are.

[Darth Zweig]

Publicado originalmente por Yasha:

Publicado originalmente por Machika:

You don't have to be a bad person or evil to be in Slytherin. You could be light side "Jedi" and still be in Slytherin or full blown "Sith" and be in Hufflepuff. Maybe your a goodie two shoes and like the color green and snakes.

Yes you do. The fandom has this bizarre idea that Slytherins can be like, normal people, but if you actually read the books literally every Slytherin character is a psycho wizard nazi that is cartoonishly racist all the time. It's the Evil House for the wizard nazis. That's all it. It's where all the cartoon supervillains go for the good guys to beat.

Astora Greengrass would like a word

[lxRs451]

Publicado originalmente por Yasha:

Publicado originalmente por Late Game Wonder:

It is funny that you say read the books...when literally the entire point of the books in the last few volumes is to prove that Slytherins are not all evil and gryffindors are not all saints.
Peter Pettigrew is a Gryffindor, Harry's son a Slytherin.
Lockheart a ravenclaw.
But you clearly have a better understanding of the lore and the books than little old me that has read them each more than 20 times cover to cover.

Dumbledore literally points out that if it was to him he would have abolished the sorting hat system and break this mold because of this very reason.

In Deathly Hallows nearly every single Slytherin at the end chooses to not fight with Harry lmao. Granted, DH is a complete trainwreck like every book past 4, but it's still canon. Outside of a few characters who exist solely to pretend that they aren't, Gryffindors are saintly heroes who can do no wrong and Slytherins are all cartoon supervillains. These books are not that complex, my dude. They are extremely simplistic children's novels written by a neoliberal christian terf that start out charming and then completely derail into plot hole riddled disasters.

Reading all the books over and over means little. Most HP fans are terrible at actually analyzing stories because they've barely read anything else. I'd recommend a podcast called the Shrieking Shack, where two people who used to be HP fans go back and went through all the books and movies and discussed them. It's the best HP analysis I've seen yet. Once you actually go back and read these books with a critical eye you realize how incredibly poorly written they are.

There is a lot of nostalgia as well. Rowling created an evil house where the most good members are:
Malfoy - only reason he isn't evil is that he doesn't have the stomach to kill and loves his parents.
Slughorn - racism of low expectations.
Snape - i'd still say he is evil but has a single redeeming quality that is an obsession over a dead woman - which is creepy in itself.

If you discount everything that was done later as a course correction - Cursed Child, determining houses of random favourite characters - and very obscure characters - ex. Regulus Black - then those three are the best the house has to offer.

IMHO the biggest mistake was the introduction of racism in HP2. In HP1 Slytherins were just the snobs who thought their families are better than all the 'common folk'.

[Late Game Wonder]

Publicado originalmente por Yasha:

Publicado originalmente por Late Game Wonder:

It is funny that you say read the books...when literally the entire point of the books in the last few volumes is to prove that Slytherins are not all evil and gryffindors are not all saints.
Peter Pettigrew is a Gryffindor, Harry's son a Slytherin.
Lockheart a ravenclaw.
But you clearly have a better understanding of the lore and the books than little old me that has read them each more than 20 times cover to cover.

Dumbledore literally points out that if it was to him he would have abolished the sorting hat system and break this mold because of this very reason.

In Deathly Hallows nearly every single Slytherin at the end chooses to not fight with Harry lmao. Granted, DH is a complete trainwreck like every book past 4, but it's still canon. Outside of a few characters who exist solely to pretend that they aren't, Gryffindors are saintly heroes who can do no wrong and Slytherins are all cartoon supervillains. These books are not that complex, my dude. They are extremely simplistic children's novels written by a neoliberal christian terf that start out charming and then completely derail into plot hole riddled disasters.

Reading all the books over and over means little. Most HP fans are terrible at actually analyzing stories because they've barely read anything else. I'd recommend a podcast called the Shrieking Shack, where two people who used to be HP fans go back and went through all the books and movies and discussed them. It's the best HP analysis I've seen yet. Once you actually go back and read these books with a critical eye you realize how incredibly poorly written they are.

In Goblet of Fire the entire Hufflepuff house including their house mistress turns nasty on Harry, so does majority of Ravenclaws.
Your point is moot, specially considering the army of death eaters outside the door.

[GrandMajora]

I for one like the idea of Slytherin being full of cartoonish villains. Everybody knows the cartoon villains have the best theme songs!

Maybe I can find a curse that ties people to a set of train tracks?

Publicado originalmente por Late Game Wonder:

In Goblet of Fire the entire Hufflepuff house including their house mistress turns nasty on Harry,

It's Hufflepuff, nobody cares.

[Jamie]

Publicado originalmente por GrandMajora:

Considering this game takes place roughly 2 years before Dumbledore comes to Hogwarts, and a century before the events of Harry Potter take place, I wonder how the wizarding world's stance on blood purity is going to be depicted in the game?

I mean, we can join House Slytherin, so it seems extremely unlikely that our character is going to be a mudblood. Either they're a pure blood, or at the very least half blood, given how the house has historically rejected muggle born students from being granted membership.

Not only that, but it's been confirmed the game has a morality system, where we can go down the road of good and evil. Even going so far as to learn and wield at least one of the three unforgivable curses.

So my main question is whether or not we as a player will have the option to support, or denounce the idea of witches and wizards mingling themselves with muggles?

only if it makes white people look bad then yes it will

[Hinamina]

You think our timeline will support this kind of """racism"""?

[GrandMajora]

Publicado originalmente por ADELKREUZ 人間失格:

You think our timeline will support this kind of """racism"""?

It's not really racism. The wizarding world doesn't seem to care about skin color, but rather if you were a pure blooded wizard.

We as fans know that the ability to wield magic is actually keyed to your genetics, and your ancestry has no impact on how powerful or weak your potential is. But in universe, the characters do not know this.

[Robin]

Publicado originalmente por GrandMajora:

Publicado originalmente por ADELKREUZ 人間失格:

You think our timeline will support this kind of """racism"""?

It's not really racism. The wizarding world doesn't seem to care about skin color, but rather if you were a pure blooded wizard.

We as fans know that the ability to wield magic is actually keyed to your genetics, and your ancestry has no impact on how powerful or weak your potential is. But in universe, the characters do not know this.

its in universe racism (or alternative racism) effectively.

[Late Game Wonder]

Publicado originalmente por Robin:

Publicado originalmente por GrandMajora:

It's not really racism. The wizarding world doesn't seem to care about skin color, but rather if you were a pure blooded wizard.

We as fans know that the ability to wield magic is actually keyed to your genetics, and your ancestry has no impact on how powerful or weak your potential is. But in universe, the characters do not know this.

its in universe racism (or alternative racism) effectively.

You could even argue it is the true meaning of racism since ethnicities are not races but if we were to argue that wizards and muggles are two different species you could argue race and racism

[Scar]

My PC doesn't care it just runs my games, vents heat and enjoys watching me play games, it doesn't care about blood, although if my machine cares about blood then we should all be afraid...

[$2 Hero]

Publicado originalmente por champdewayne:

It would be so cold for me to be playing as a black wizard i the 1800's and have the nerve to hate on muggles...

"We dont like your kind around here son." My black character to some random english man.

Lol I get your point but read the book White Cargo for a real history lesson.