After May 4th Patch: bugs, regular crashing, rebooting to BIOS

[laurentius]

I've had the game crash regularly to desktop with no message ONLY SINCE the May 4th Patch :/ Also experiencing impaired performance, bugs with NPC pathfinding (Natty running backwards all the way into the Black Lake during "the Lost Child" quest...) after the patch. Would revert the patch if I knew how to do it, I was happy with how it ran before.

I'm running the game with benchmark-recommended (=low) settings, and I hardly had any issues before the patch.

Specs: Win10 64bit, AMD Ryzen 5 1600, 16Gb DDR3 RAM, ASRock AB350, Kingston SA2000M8500G, GeForce Game Ready Driver 531.79 (updated to no avail).

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Kept track of performance during the last session. Game ran for precisely 1 hour and crashed in the middle of a cutscene. CPU and RAM usage <50 %, GPU spiked for a second when it crashed ._.

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Problems escalating - two most recent attempts to play the game:

1 - crashes to desktop with no message at the "press any key" title screen
2 - I click "play" on Steam, PC reboots to BIOS

[Stonehand]

Your system is well below spec for this game. Don't blame the game or the devs. You are insisting on playing a brand new triple AAA title on an outdated machine that can't even run Minecraft with any degree of stability! Accept the blame and go buy a new machine with specs sufficient for the games you want to play. PCs don't "reboot to BIOS" unless you've really screwed something up! I think what you mean to say is that it spontaneously reboots - that is a spontaneous hardware failure, usually related to heat overload or defective RAM, or a myriad other hardware problems that are not the fault of the developer or an issue with the game.

[laurentius]

Are you suggesting that other people who are also experience random crashing to desktop with no messages are also just punishing their hardware beyond limits?

For the record, I've kept track of stats such as temps, capacity etc. and there's nothing in the curves that would indicate crashing due to overload. Also, I didn't have this issue before the May 4th patch, so I question whether that alone would have been enough to "break the camel's back", if it were about hardware.

Correction: seems I typo'ed DDR3 instead of DDR4 (correct) in the original post

[Falaris]

Rebooting to bios is a hardware problem. Crashing to desktop, that's the game (or drivers). But rebooting to bios suggests you have some significant problems at your end that may or may not exacerbate other problems. I recommend doing some maintenance on your PC, check for ram errors, PSU issues, that sort of thing.

Edit:
You list 'press play on steam, then reboot to bios'. That sounds a LOT like a RAM or PSU issue. PSU's have always had this thing where they provide less wattage over time - they degrade - but it's gotten a lot bigger problem the last decade or two. If you check the event log, you'll see the PC dies without any software warnings, and the first warning is for rebooting for unknown cause. This is something that will sneak up on you. And yea, it won't be consistent, but it will often happen when the PC starts drawing on more power. Sudden reboots can also be failing ram. It's a little less common, but it's still fairly common. It, too, will be VERY intermittent, and depends also on wether the game (gets) assigned the bad ram sectors. If a game uses more memory than others, it will be more prone to crashing from bad RAM as it is more likely to be assigned the bad sectors.

If it is ram, running memtest or similar should find it. You'll notice that memory testers can give false negatives, but they NEVER give false positives, so it's best to run them for a while/a few times. (They may say ram is fine when it's not, but if it says it's faulty, it IS bad and must be replaced.).

[kdodds]

Most people who are reporting unsolvable spontaneous CTDs have less than 32GB. Min reqs are not a good guide to smooth gameplay. They're the "bottom line" just to get the game to run. It's only going to get worse as games get more demanding.

[Angel]

why did you list what specs your motherboard is? what's your GPU if you have one

[ろらｴ]

Originally posted by Stonehand:

Your system is well below spec for this game. Don't blame the game or the devs. You are insisting on playing a brand new triple AAA title on an outdated machine that can't even run Minecraft with any degree of stability! Accept the blame and go buy a new machine with specs sufficient for the games you want to play. PCs don't "reboot to BIOS" unless you've really screwed something up! I think what you mean to say is that it spontaneously reboots - that is a spontaneous hardware failure, usually related to heat overload or defective RAM, or a myriad other hardware problems that are not the fault of the developer or an issue with the game.

You're a prick.

[tk0322-Allkeyshop]

Originally posted by Stonehand:

Your system is well below spec for this game. Don't blame the game or the devs. You are insisting on playing a brand new triple AAA title on an outdated machine that can't even run Minecraft with any degree of stability! Accept the blame and go buy a new machine with specs sufficient for the games you want to play. PCs don't "reboot to BIOS" unless you've really screwed something up! I think what you mean to say is that it spontaneously reboots - that is a spontaneous hardware failure, usually related to heat overload or defective RAM, or a myriad other hardware problems that are not the fault of the developer or an issue with the game.

u are an idiot

[TheOutSiderNL]

Installing a Graphics card most of the time helps..

[Lexa]

LoL, people :'D Why can't you admit that the patch is faulty? There is nothing wrong with that. It happenns all the time. We just need to wait for a new patch that would fix the issues the last one causes. Stop arguing so stupidly. You can't help, so don't start blaming equipment.
The game was working pefrectly on ultra settings and after the patch it's crashing, so you blame the PC? Seriously?

Just be patient.

[joridiculous]

Originally posted by laurentius:

Kept track of performance during the last session. Game ran for precisely 1 hour and crashed in the middle of a cutscene. CPU and RAM usage <50 %, GPU spiked for a second when it crashed ._.

Out of VRAM.

[joridiculous]

Lots of issues with the game, and after 3 patches, typos and non-ideal settings (debug, and stats solely for testing) in the game files have not been corrected.

[Runertje550]

Originally posted by Stonehand:

Your system is well below spec for this game. Don't blame the game or the devs. You are insisting on playing a brand new triple AAA title on an outdated machine that can't even run Minecraft with any degree of stability! Accept the blame and go buy a new machine with specs sufficient for the games you want to play. PCs don't "reboot to BIOS" unless you've really screwed something up! I think what you mean to say is that it spontaneously reboots - that is a spontaneous hardware failure, usually related to heat overload or defective RAM, or a myriad other hardware problems that are not the fault of the developer or an issue with the game.

This does not make any sense.

Ive been playing this game since day of release and never had any crashes. Now after the May 4 update, it runs very smooth, but it crashes every few minutes.

[laurentius]

Originally posted by TheOutSiderNL:

Installing a Graphics card most of the time helps..

Well what the heck, seems I somehow forgot to include my GPU ;D

It's an ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 OC 6 gb

[Liquidsteel]

Originally posted by Stonehand:

Your system is well below spec for this game. Don't blame the game or the devs. You are insisting on playing a brand new triple AAA title on an outdated machine that can't even run Minecraft with any degree of stability! Accept the blame and go buy a new machine with specs sufficient for the games you want to play. PCs don't "reboot to BIOS" unless you've really screwed something up! I think what you mean to say is that it spontaneously reboots - that is a spontaneous hardware failure, usually related to heat overload or defective RAM, or a myriad other hardware problems that are not the fault of the developer or an issue with the game.

ignorance is strong in this one