dont use the swift talent in the core tree its bait

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dont do it. when you teleport so does the thing attacking you if its in an animation it makes it super disorienting when you teleport far out of the way just for a troll to appear in front of you and merc you

[Frobscottle]

I ran into that as well, I countered it by teleporting away in a different direction immediately after doing it the first time; so you make like a Zig-Zag or something.

[Raven]

For real :S It's pretty bad, not sure if its a bug or not, but you need to dodge twice very quickly against trolls and goblins or they WILL hit you when you come out of the dash animation. The regular rolling is better for all things except quickly getting out of an aoe area. Other than that, with regular dodge you can 1) keep track of your target and 2) not get surprised by some random teleport follow up to hit you.

I don't know if its bugged or not, but the talent needs to be fixed, because its worse than the standard dodge

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Originally posted by Raven:

For real :S It's pretty bad, not sure if its a bug or not, but you need to dodge twice very quickly against trolls and goblins or they WILL hit you when you come out of the dash animation. The regular rolling is better for all things except quickly getting out of an aoe area. Other than that, with regular dodge you can 1) keep track of your target and 2) not get surprised by some random teleport follow up to hit you.

I don't know if its bugged or not, but the talent needs to be fixed, because its worse than the standard dodge

its gotta be a bug cause big ass trolls are teleporting like anime characters lmao and normally i do that but when i teleport by accident and then they teleport and my cameras half way in a wall or doing some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and i get smacked

[Koz]

swift isnt a replacement for dodging, thats why it doesnt completely replace the roll. its for distancing and avoiding getting overwhelmed in close proximity.
it can also be used to pass through crawl spaces faster (not needing to crouch down and crawl real slow) you just teleport in like a badass.

[zero.calvin]

i dont think swift is for dodging... i just use it to collect ancient magic orb around the area during battle... i still dodge normally.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Koz:

swift isnt a replacement for dodging, thats why it doesnt completely replace the roll. its for distancing and avoiding getting overwhelmed in close proximity.
it can also be used to pass through crawl spaces faster (not needing to crouch down and crawl real slow) you just teleport in like a badass.

even if that's the case, it still fails if things still teleport and hit you anyway

[zero.calvin]

Originally posted by Raven:

even if that's the case, it still fails if things still teleport and hit you anyway

yeah, i kinda agree with that, for some weird reason, it seems like melee enemies have some kinda of rubberbanding mechanic in this game... so just moving away from the enemies isnt enough to avoid the attack... not sure if this is a bug or intentionally design to be that way..

[(Queen) Fooni]

Swift is originally used to back out of crowd situations, not for dodging. Altho it can be used to dodge single hits or highlighted target hits. If you have issues enemies cornering you, try using Endurus potion + the upgraded Endurus effect in the Room of Requirement card. Or if you want to challenge the game naturally, you're just gonna have to practice your parrying skills and learn when to dodge Red attacks.(Red attacks are unblockable)

[Raven]

Originally posted by (Queen) Fooni:

Swift is originally used to back out of crowd situations, not for dodging. Altho it can be used to dodge single hits or highlighted target hits. If you have issues enemies cornering you, try using Endurus potion + the upgraded Endurus effect in the Room of Requirement card. Or if you want to challenge the game naturally, you're just gonna have to practice your parrying skills and learn when to dodge Red attacks.(Red attacks are unblockable)

honestly dodging them is super easy...but after I took swift, I expected that to be a replacement. It's not, and I accept that. The problem lies, if I hold the button 1/2 a second too long, my dodge turns into a dash, and then I get immediately hit.

Ergo, I'm with the warning. Just don't take the talent. Evading the attacks is super easy, or maybe its cus I play Nioh 2 a lot, but either way, dashing creates problems more than it solves anything.

[Quasiendo]

It seems not intended for us users to experience this. Hope the developers/Avalanche can fix this in the future patch.

Yeah i also had this issues. Is annoying. You should have expect to dodge it but the troll suddenly teleport to you and WHAM.

[◤ PIE ◢]

I thought I was bugged out to, but I only had this issue with the trolls, nothing else so far. Random question while I'm here has anyone gone into one of those dungeons in the water you can explore for loot and just start randomly ascending upwards to the ceiling after the screen loads? I'm literally swimming in air in one spot.

[Raven]

Originally posted by ◤ PIE ◢:

I thought I was bugged out to, but I only had this issue with the trolls, nothing else so far. Random question while I'm here has anyone gone into one of those dungeons in the water you can explore for loot and just start randomly ascending upwards to the ceiling after the screen loads? I'm literally swimming in air in one spot.

I've had issues with goblins as well, and rarely the...shoot what are they called...the water alligator like things....

I've had zero problems with humans. the alligator things is super rare, its only happened a few times. But goblins and trolls consistently do it

[zero.calvin]

Originally posted by ◤ PIE ◢:

I thought I was bugged out to, but I only had this issue with the trolls, nothing else so far. Random question while I'm here has anyone gone into one of those dungeons in the water you can explore for loot and just start randomly ascending upwards to the ceiling after the screen loads? I'm literally swimming in air in one spot.

it's not just troll, but loyalist warrior, loyalist assassin and spider also do this... they can melee you from across the room for some odd reason.

[Tiasmoon]

Out of those only the assassin & warrior is ment to be a teleport attack but I guess the rest work similar because they are fully tracking as well.

[astranabeat]

Too late for that.

It's cool to teleport but if enemies using melee. they will teleport with you and hit you. Every time.

Had to used mod to respec. I can tolerate weak skill but bug skill like this, nah.