Add Denuvo to stop people pirating this.

[Karl Pilkington]

I've seen a lot of people bragging online that they are going to steal this game , more than any other in recent memory. Should use Denuvo to stop their intentions to pirate this product.

[HermitKermit]

Publicado originalmente por Bluumberry:

We're apparently living in a world where consumers are now asking for anti-consumer practices.

We're doomed.

We've been doomed a long time. It is just becoming more apparent of late.

[Schrobes]

Denuvo does nothing to stop piracy.

[Flavelius]

It`s always sad to see the trolls try to ruin other people`s experiences. just because you`re mad about anticheat in your favourite online shooter doesn`t mean you have to push your agenda that now everyone should be as frustrated as you.

[darkinpresser]

it don't matter what Anti Piracy software you use games will always be stolen regardless what you do. if people honestly think Anti Piracy stuff Works then you are really clueless with how this stuff works. there's no point in trying to make software that stops Piracy when you could just design a Anti Piracy bit of Code within the game that can detect if the game has been cracked or not just like many Dev Teams did with the PS2 and PS3 games. that's how you stop Piracy in 2022 but the issue is it takes along time to code and design something like that. games will always be Piracy regardless what software you use. also Anti Piracy software can slow down ur PC when the game is open depending what one you use so you are impacting players with really bad hardware the players with High End hardware like me won't really be impacted by it but players who don't have 3080TI or 3090 builds might be impacted. also if the Devs started Layering Anti Piracy Software they could burn out ur CPU and break hardware like Ubisoft did.

[grimoire]

Publicado originalmente por darkinpresser:

there's no point in trying to make software that stops Piracy when you could just design a Anti Piracy bit of Code within the game that can detect if the game has been cracked or not just like many Dev Teams did with the PS2 and PS3 games. that's how you stop Piracy in 2022 but the issue is it takes along time to code and design something like that.

This is kind of wrong in both directions. What you're describing is how more sophisticated copy protection schemes work, but anything could be theoretically defeated, including any anti-cheat or "spyware" anti-copy.

Preventing casual copying goes a long way.

I've never noticed any performance problems from Denuvo. People blaming it are probably the same people who blame software for crashing their computer, overheating their GPU, etc.

[Fremduk]

Publicado originalmente por grimoire:

Publicado originalmente por darkinpresser:

there's no point in trying to make software that stops Piracy when you could just design a Anti Piracy bit of Code within the game that can detect if the game has been cracked or not just like many Dev Teams did with the PS2 and PS3 games. that's how you stop Piracy in 2022 but the issue is it takes along time to code and design something like that.

This is kind of wrong in both directions. What you're describing is how more sophisticated copy protection schemes work, but anything could be theoretically defeated, including any anti-cheat or "spyware" anti-copy.

Preventing casual copying goes a long way.

I've never noticed any performance problems from Denuvo. People blaming it are probably the same people who blame software for crashing their computer, overheating their GPU, etc.

You trolling ?
Denuvo and others anti cheat / Anti Piracy 3rd party software needs resource to run ( Cpu , Ram ) and its impact depends on devs. ability to integrate it , and on-top of it is common for some publisher to layer multiple validation / Anti Piracy software on top of each other on PC.
In past know cases when games run fine on PS4 , Xbox One and I was unable to play it on my Old PC despite being more powerful that consoles , and afterwards of backslash when devs. removed that type of software or they realised game on GOG ( DRM free ) had no problem playing it on that PC. So claiming that bloating games with DRM has no performance impact is BS. Lots depends on implementation and how many DRM software is push in to game ...

2020-2022 was bad years for Gamer's with ridiculous GPU pricing ( paid for my current graphic card £170.00 in early 2019 today this card cost £520.00-600.00 ) with is a joke , on top of that rampant inflation effecting pricing of all others PC components ( not as badly as GPU ). So you are in situation when Woke activist , game outlets pushes for people to boycott or pirate game ( criminal activity ) in many countries calls to commit crimes is crime and can be prosecuted. So wanting prevent / making its more difficult is understandable whoever overdoing it have consequence. Packing game with DRM often ( depending of implementation ) effect performance, increasing minimum and recommended specification as DRM need resource to run with in turn shrinks you potential market to sell game, with is bad especially when hardware pricing in resend years is extremely bad for Gamer community ...

[grimoire]

Publicado originalmente por Fremduk:

Publicado originalmente por grimoire:

This is kind of wrong in both directions. What you're describing is how more sophisticated copy protection schemes work, but anything could be theoretically defeated, including any anti-cheat or "spyware" anti-copy.

Preventing casual copying goes a long way.

I've never noticed any performance problems from Denuvo. People blaming it are probably the same people who blame software for crashing their computer, overheating their GPU, etc.

You trolling ?
Denuvo and others anti cheat / Anti Piracy 3rd party software needs resource to run ( Cpu , Ram ) and its impact depends on devs. ability to integrate it , and on-top of it is common for some publisher to layer multiple validation / Anti Piracy software on top of each other on PC.
In past know cases when games run fine on PS4 , Xbox One and I was unable to play it on my Old PC despite being more powerful that consoles , and afterwards of backslash when devs. removed that type of software or they realised game on GOG ( DRM free ) had no problem playing it on that PC. So claiming that bloating games with DRM has no performance impact is BS. Lots depends on implementation and how many DRM software is push in to game ...

2020-2022 was bad years for Gamer's with ridiculous GPU pricing ( paid for my current graphic card £170.00 in early 2019 today this card cost £520.00-600.00 ) with is a joke , on top of that rampant inflation effecting pricing of all others PC components ( not as badly as GPU ). So you are in situation when Woke activist , game outlets pushes for people to boycott or pirate game ( criminal activity ) in many countries calls to commit crimes is crime and can be prosecuted. So wanting prevent / making its more difficult is understandable whoever overdoing it have consequence. Packing game with DRM often ( depending of implementation ) effect performance, increasing minimum and recommended specification as DRM need resource to run with in turn shrinks you potential market to sell game, with is bad especially when hardware pricing in resend years is extremely bad for Gamer community ...

You're going to accuse me of trolling when you outline how anti-cheat/anti-copy works as the right way to do it (try to detect if the game files have been modified) then say that kind of thing takes too much resources. Like I said you're wrong from both direction, that is how DRM works, and it could be defeated, you didn't outline some magic bullet "just detect if the game files have been modified" thing.

Unless you're running on a pocket calculator, properly implemented DRM does not take significant resources, no more than anti-cheat, which surely you aren't complaining about.

"paid for my current graphic card £170.00 in early 2019 today this card cost £520.00-600.00"

Wrong, GPU prices are back down to normal levels or below, and any devaluation of the pound is your country's own problem.

[lnomsim]

Publicado originalmente por grimoire:

Publicado originalmente por Fremduk:

You trolling ?
Denuvo and others anti cheat / Anti Piracy 3rd party software needs resource to run ( Cpu , Ram ) and its impact depends on devs. ability to integrate it , and on-top of it is common for some publisher to layer multiple validation / Anti Piracy software on top of each other on PC.
In past know cases when games run fine on PS4 , Xbox One and I was unable to play it on my Old PC despite being more powerful that consoles , and afterwards of backslash when devs. removed that type of software or they realised game on GOG ( DRM free ) had no problem playing it on that PC. So claiming that bloating games with DRM has no performance impact is BS. Lots depends on implementation and how many DRM software is push in to game ...

2020-2022 was bad years for Gamer's with ridiculous GPU pricing ( paid for my current graphic card £170.00 in early 2019 today this card cost £520.00-600.00 ) with is a joke , on top of that rampant inflation effecting pricing of all others PC components ( not as badly as GPU ). So you are in situation when Woke activist , game outlets pushes for people to boycott or pirate game ( criminal activity ) in many countries calls to commit crimes is crime and can be prosecuted. So wanting prevent / making its more difficult is understandable whoever overdoing it have consequence. Packing game with DRM often ( depending of implementation ) effect performance, increasing minimum and recommended specification as DRM need resource to run with in turn shrinks you potential market to sell game, with is bad especially when hardware pricing in resend years is extremely bad for Gamer community ...

You're going to accuse me of trolling when you outline how anti-cheat/anti-copy works as the right way to do it (try to detect if the game files have been modified) then say that kind of thing takes too much resources. Like I said you're wrong from both direction, that is how DRM works, and it could be defeated, you didn't outline some magic bullet "just detect if the game files have been modified" thing.

Unless you're running on a pocket calculator, properly implemented DRM does not take significant resources, no more than anti-cheat, which surely you aren't complaining about.

"paid for my current graphic card £170.00 in early 2019 today this card cost £520.00-600.00"

Wrong, GPU prices are back down to normal levels or below, and any devaluation of the pound is your country's own problem.

You know it took me 10 seconds to verify that last claim:
https://store.nvidia.com/fr-fr/geforce/store/gpu/?page=1&limit=9&locale=fr-fr&category=GPU&gpu=RTX%203080%20Ti,RTX%203080

Two things: nope, the price are not back to whatever "normal" is, and secondly, stocks are still an issue.

RTX2070 are sold at over 1000€, my entire computer cost me 1200€, so I highly doubt I bought my 2070 for that price.

[grimoire]

Publicado originalmente por lnomsim:

Publicado originalmente por grimoire:

You're going to accuse me of trolling when you outline how anti-cheat/anti-copy works as the right way to do it (try to detect if the game files have been modified) then say that kind of thing takes too much resources. Like I said you're wrong from both direction, that is how DRM works, and it could be defeated, you didn't outline some magic bullet "just detect if the game files have been modified" thing.

Unless you're running on a pocket calculator, properly implemented DRM does not take significant resources, no more than anti-cheat, which surely you aren't complaining about.

"paid for my current graphic card £170.00 in early 2019 today this card cost £520.00-600.00"

Wrong, GPU prices are back down to normal levels or below, and any devaluation of the pound is your country's own problem.

You know it took me 10 seconds to verify that last claim:
https://store.nvidia.com/fr-fr/geforce/store/gpu/?page=1&limit=9&locale=fr-fr&category=GPU&gpu=RTX%203080%20Ti,RTX%203080

Two things: nope, the price are not back to whatever "normal" is, and secondly, stocks are still an issue.

RTX2070 are sold at over 1000€, my entire computer cost me 1200€, so I highly doubt I bought my 2070 for that price.

What are you even talking about? RTX 2070 are going for 250€ on eBay.fr and it's not a card that is being sold new any more.

[Ais_Galdwin]

I just cancelled my preorder and I'm gonna wait for a pirate version.
Thanks for let me know that piracy is coming for the game.

[senraXD]

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/eu-study-finds-piracy-doesnt-hurt-game-sales-may-actually-help/

[(☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞]

Publicado originalmente por Karl Pilkington:

Some sort of always online DRM would be good.

What the ♥♥♥♥ are you smoking. Always online is what is ruining gaming. Internet goes down and you can't play your single player games that you paid for while the people who pirate it can play it whenever they want.
Stop advocating for worsening the customers experience to try to save multi-million/billion dollar corporations that only care about profits even more money

[2chainz4bracletz]

when i use the word cuck as a derogatory term online, OP is who i am referencing

[Ash//Fox]

I literally cannot fathom anything more cucky than crying about some billion dollar company not recouping their profits. OP was the kid in who tattled on people in elementary school for passing notes and trading answers on homework.

MRs mCGonAGAl exCUSE Me, thOSe Two were PAsSINg noTEs JuST nOw, aNd SHAriNG HOmeWORk anSWERs BefORe YOU WALKeD In!!!

[Karl Pilkington]

Publicado originalmente por grimoire:

Publicado originalmente por darkinpresser:

there's no point in trying to make software that stops Piracy when you could just design a Anti Piracy bit of Code within the game that can detect if the game has been cracked or not just like many Dev Teams did with the PS2 and PS3 games. that's how you stop Piracy in 2022 but the issue is it takes along time to code and design something like that.

This is kind of wrong in both directions. What you're describing is how more sophisticated copy protection schemes work, but anything could be theoretically defeated, including any anti-cheat or "spyware" anti-copy.

Preventing casual copying goes a long way.

I've never noticed any performance problems from Denuvo. People blaming it are probably the same people who blame software for crashing their computer, overheating their GPU, etc.

Definitely. My computer is playing these Denuvo protected games with zero impact or issue.