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Come on, I dare you. Prove that Discovery is crap. If you can, then you just proved how all Star Trek Series are crap as well.
As for Star Trek Discovery being the best series, that was just a joke, hence the tongue sticking out. But since people don't watch it, they can't provide proof as to why though. That is not a joke, just the truth. I can respect someone's opinion if they did watch it and give reasons as to why Discovery is bad/horrible. They would have facts then.
As for why Star Trek Discovery is bad, well because all Star Trek series are bad. Star Trek only became good after people wanted it back. So if it was really "good" it wouldn't have been cancelled after three seasons.
Star Trek Generations, is bad, UNTIL season 3. That is when it became good and an excellent series. I still cringe when I watch the first two seasons. Funny being it's own show and not trying to be like the original series and letting the actors/characters gell works great.
Star Trek Deep Space Nice. Only became good until season 3. Then I swear it's the best of all series IN MY OPINION. Not fact but for me. Funny how not being on the same station all the time and finally having a STARSHIP actually made DS9 finally feel like Star Trek.
Star Trek Voyager. Only became good in season 3. I eventually became to like it but took a long while to do so. Can't remember why I started to like Voyager on season three. Maybe it's the "that is how long it takes characters/actors to gell".
Star Trek Enterprise. Only became good in season 3. Sadly got cancelled in season 4. I never did start watching Enterprise until after it was cancelled. Sadly I missed the boat on this one. But again, pattern holds true until season three is when I thought Enterprise finally became Star Trek.
Hmm... Are we seeing a pattern? Star Trek only becomes good in season 3, and then after becomes really good/great.
So to crap on Discovery is just like crapping on Star Trek, Generations, Deep Space Nine, Voyager and Enterprise.
I didn't like the first season of Star Trek Discovery. Sort of grew on me when I could finally ignore the "not Klingons". Became OK. I did like Season two though. I really enjoyed Anston Mount on the show.
Discovery just changed too much for what ever reason. I don't even know if they gave a reasoning for all the different looking Klingons. I just imagined them looking like Generation Klingons, I started to like it a bit more. Plenty of reasons why Discovery is bad. Thing is, it can be good as well. Does it make much sense? Not really. Then again, do we want the Abrahms version of Star Trek instead? At least Discovery finally put Star Trek in the proper timeline and not of this Abrahms crap changing stories/lore.
So anything, only praise Discovery needs is to show there is a proper timeline for Star Trek and not the Abrahms Trek.
So with season three coming, this might be the year of Discovery. After all, if history has proven anything, first two seasons of Star Trek in my opinion are bad/garbage/horrible and not until season three finally found it's legs, lets the characters/actors gell and become a good season. So now with Discovery in the future, there should be no more rectonning the past and hopefully nothing to complain about how the show writers always get everything wrong.
Right now, in my opinion, I would put in Discovery as the least favorite of the bunch, but as with all the other shows, I am waiting for season three to see if it finally becomes good just like all the other shows. Just like Enterprise and Voyager, what was garbage in the beginning can turn out to be good. If anything DS9 proved garbage, something we are not use to, can actually become the best of the bunch.
Not saying Discovery will become the best, but if DS9 in my opinion turn it around and become great, then Discovery can become good as well.
Funny how it's ok for Generations, DS9, Voyager and even Enterprise be given time and say they are OK, good or even great but no time is given to Discovery? After all, it's Hollywood who screws up the first two seasons since all they can think of is making money and nothing else, and everyone else has to suffer when the bosses tell them what to do.
I also loved the way they ended season two.
Lots of whining by the haters, but they ended the season and tied everything up with canon intact. I love the characters in Discovery and I am very much looking forward to season three.
Okay, I'm sure this is going to sound like captain obvious here, but, this series takes place 10 years before TOS, Kirk, or Spock, so, as far as that goes, it's new Trek.
Never mind that garbage, how is this new season of episodes on STO??? I'm about to waste time and resources playing again (dreadful thinking). I haven't even installed the game at this point. ??
No argument there. So much of TOS, or as i like to call it, "Space Cowboys Fighting Nazis (With A Token Elf)" was absolute dross.
All the later series got off to a bit of a rough start. Particularly TNG, where season 1 was still too much Roddenberry's "Space Cowboys Fighting Nazus (This Time With A Token Orc)", as oppsed to modern more-science-than fantasy fiction.
However nothing was ever bad on STD's season 1&2 "let's not give a ♥♥♥♥ about continuity and then deus ex machina fix that" level. Not even Enterprise, which clearly didn't consider how some things (the Xindi attack on Earth, for example) really should've been widely know/acknowledged in the future, but at least could hide behind the fact that previous series had clearly established Starfleet is so full of freaks utterly obsessed with ancient Earth (20th century and earlier) they probably really don't talk much about more recent history.
But "let's everyone solemnly swear never to talk about near-instantaneous travel again (and just hope nobody else ever stumbles across the idea)"? Clearly the idiots involved in the Discovery incident were not the clever mid-23rd century people who devised the Omega Protocol just in case somebody else is dumb enough to research the same dangerous ♥♥♥♥ they got burned on...
Yes. It was that rancid
Not saying you are wrong, but 5 words, 18 letters, and a missing period doesn't prove anything. Some reasons would be nice. Or is this the times, where we are lazy and complain about things, but can never give the time to properly explain and give reasons.
No wonder we get what we do. People can't even take the time to complain, just be quick about. I guess we deserve the stuff we have today.
I hate how its the Michael Burnham show. The idea that this emotional wreck could be a bridge officer to begin with is a joke. Her blatant disregard for the chain of command and outright insubordination would never have seen her rise in the first place. Remember Troi having to send holo-geordi to his death to qualify for bridge officer status? More than once Burnham has demonstrated being incapable of making those life or death important leadership calls, instead being crippled by emotions and turning into a sobbing child to be rescued by a fake out or somebody else making the call.
Everyones dying in space around her at the end of S2 and she keeps pausing for dramatic effect and for a nice chat... people are DYING. (Unlike other episodes where they death fake-out CONSTANTLY to the point where when they did kill character.. I didnt care anymore.)
Then theres the mary sue aspect where everything just comes naturally and shes a scientist, an engineeer, an amazing pilot.... etc and you get my point.
The writing was shockingly bad at times such as the "yum yum" remark or michelle yeoh calling culber "papi" it was SO cringe!
However the good: Michelle Yeoh the rest of the time is fricken amazing. I quite liked the relationship of Stamets and Culber and their spore dream like scene in 1 was so moving. CaptainsPike and Lorca... brilliant. Tilly was good in S1 but S2 they turned her into Sheldon Coopers hyperactive twin sister. Saru is a really interesting character I wanted more of. Cant really talk about the rest of the bridge crew who are just treated like set dressing for most the time.
"Oh, Lieutenant, I love you madly. Will you come to bed with me?" "Captain! I am not that kind of girl!" "You're right, and I respect you for it. Here, take over the ship for a minute while I go get some coffee for us." Mr. Saru came onto the bridge. "What are you doing in the command seat, Lieutenant?" "The Captain told me to." "Flawlessly logical. I admire your mind."
Captain Georgiou, Mr. Saru, Dr. Stamets and Ms. Tilly beamed down with Lt. Michael Burnham to Rigel XXXVII. They were attacked by green androids and thrown into prison. In a moment of weakness Lt. Michael Burnham revealed to Mr. Saru that she was bullied as a child. Recovering quickly, she sprung the lock with her hairpin and they all got away back to the ship.
But back on board, Dr. Stamets and Lt. Michael Burnham found out that the away team who had beamed down were seriously stricken by the jumping cold robbies, Michael Burnham less so. While the four officers languished in Sick Bay, Lt. Mary Sue ran the ship, and ran it so well she received the Nobel Peace Prize, the Vulcan Order of Gallantry and the Tralfamadorian Order of Good Guyhood.
However the disease finally got to her and she fell fatally ill. In the Sick Bay as she breathed her last, she was surrounded by Captain Georgiou, Mr. Saru, Dr. Stamets, and Ms. Tilly, all weeping unashamedly at the loss of her beautiful youth and youthful beauty, intelligence, capability and all around niceness. Even to this day her birthday is a national holiday of the Discovery.
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STD's problem isn't inclusivity or any perceived political agenda, it's just trashy writing pure and simple.
(The "story" is an edit of A Trekkie's Tale, a parody of fan fiction by Paula Smith, the original source of the term mary sue; the thing is, it could pass as an actual STD story line, I can even hear the voices of the characters from STD reading the dialogue...).