TOD community

[Adonai]

people are mean, if your stat is not high enough, always get kicked from every room ever

[Mimo]

Or maybe stop forcing yourself in TOD if your stats doesn't meet the requirement. The drops are fancy but keep that in mind that people have limited entries per day. Pushing yourself with low TA on high difficulty dungeon is risking 3 other people's daily entry just so you can join.

Go farm circus and TID. You can reach 200k easily even with 3-4 pieces yellow gear. Then go back to TOD.

[Lyulf]

Originally posted by Shouto:

Originally posted by Lyulf:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqTGFhw7Efk


As you can see, questionable things that people do in TOD. Using unnecessary combo and causing Gaikoz to teleport. Also, Arme used 4th skill of BM class at Gaikoz. Used gorgos flame level 2 on Gaikoz. Sieghart used 4th skill of PK class at Gaikoz.

Instead of delaying the boss on F5 with 1st skill to help the carry, decides to use 3rd skill which basically does no damage.

So tell me, why should the TOD community continue to accept such behaviours? Especially when we are carrying them?

Huh? Birth of Blade in 4th Floor??? Indeed very questionable I never use Sieg's PK 4th bar in 4th Floor since his 1st Job 4th bar is the best in dealing with Double Gorgos in 1st & Gaikoz in 4th Floor in the 5 Floors in ToD

Yeap. Birth of blades causes Gaikoz to teleport non stop and triggers his warning slash attacks.

[76561199123500480]

Originally posted by Adonai:

i tried looking for temple of time rooms, same as tod, always get kicked, i tried it solo, succesfull run, then what? low AT dont always mean you are suck at the game, im just left behind only coz i played the game just recently

The pros/strong players don't want to help weak players most times because they're power-farming the card there/their character isn't strong enough to do a consistently fast run for the piercings so they prefer solo play, there's a very noticeable change on the miniboss/boss HP/DEF if there's at least 1 more player in the room. Whether you get carry on ToT is up to the host trying to find some goodness in their heart XD.

For TOD our main problem isn't your TA, it's players who DON'T even bother watching a guide on what to do/don't listen to what the carry is saying, making the entire run unnecessarily much harder & longer than it is. 60k TA c-lvl 200+ Ryan? Sure I don't mind carrying you, Ryan's amazing in TOD + he likely already knows what to do and has prayer for revive if things go south. Below c-lvl 50 + Less than 200k player? Okay buddy, chances are you don't even know what lisnar's prayer is and make my life carrying you miserable. I've missed like 3 Elesis 2nd job ultimates before because some wet-noodle newblets kept making the boss dodge, the worst part is they don't even listen and play as if they're some 650k 50% mpr build hotshit.

TOD was the end, end-game content until harrier and void dropped, it's expected that you won't be able to play with people hosting the room if you don't meet the requirements they want.

It would be better to find someone who's cool to play with TOD newbies :v

[_muniobus_]

if you can't find a way to rise your total stats,

search my [classic guide]: [walkthrough] > [zero to hero]

[Sp4Rkle`]

dont attack first every floor if u cannot 1 shot it that make a waste time

[Rose Brigade]

Honestly I just don't play with people in general. Most community in this game actually is Elitist toxicity. Even if they don't kick you for not meeting their criteria of TA, a lot of them kick you for your character choices. Lime players for example never get far end-game unless they have dedicated groups because no one wants a Lime in their party.
People can blame KOG for making progression god-awful, they can blame KOG for balances problems, but you can't blame KOG for personal choices on player etiquette. If a player is intentionally screwing up your run or failing to listen to people trying to help them, that's one thing, but it's another thing entirely to treat people like a plague just because they are either a few thousand TA too low or a character they don't like.

And it's even more toxic to bash players for wanting to play specific characters that they enjoy, just because you don't enjoy it.
I have had like 15-20 people ingame actually tell me I'm hot garbage for liking Gunslinger Mari. Yet I consistently can clear things on my own with her regardless of their input.

I stopped playing with people. The Grand Chase community is fairly tainted. If you don't follow meta you mean nothing to most people.
So my advice to OP? Learn the mechanics of stuff yourself, build your TA through Hero Collection progression and building your TID gear, Runes, and cards, and focus on bettering your own playstyle that works for you.
If you *want* to play with people, I suggest making your own group of people you know personally. That's about the only way you're guaranteed to not get treated like dogwater by the majority of the community.

[Dubious Disk]

Originally posted by The Rose Brigade:

Honestly I just don't play with people in general. Most community in this game actually is Elitist toxicity. Even if they don't kick you for not meeting their criteria of TA, a lot of them kick you for your character choices. Lime players for example never get far end-game unless they have dedicated groups because no one wants a Lime in their party.
People can blame KOG for making progression god-awful, they can blame KOG for balances problems, but you can't blame KOG for personal choices on player etiquette. If a player is intentionally screwing up your run or failing to listen to people trying to help them, that's one thing, but it's another thing entirely to treat people like a plague just because they are either a few thousand TA too low or a character they don't like.

And it's even more toxic to bash players for wanting to play specific characters that they enjoy, just because you don't enjoy it.
I have had like 15-20 people ingame actually tell me I'm hot garbage for liking Gunslinger Mari. Yet I consistently can clear things on my own with her regardless of their input.

I stopped playing with people. The Grand Chase community is fairly tainted. If you don't follow meta you mean nothing to most people.
So my advice to OP? Learn the mechanics of stuff yourself, build your TA through Hero Collection progression and building your TID gear, Runes, and cards, and focus on bettering your own playstyle that works for you.
If you *want* to play with people, I suggest making your own group of people you know personally. That's about the only way you're guaranteed to not get treated like dogwater by the majority of the community.

This is a constant in KoG games in general, they make games with such poor balance and progression, that their communities are forced to be hyper picky with who they play with to progress, it's so abysmal.

[Rose Brigade]

Originally posted by Penny Blood:

Originally posted by The Rose Brigade:

Honestly I just don't play with people in general. Most community in this game actually is Elitist toxicity. Even if they don't kick you for not meeting their criteria of TA, a lot of them kick you for your character choices. Lime players for example never get far end-game unless they have dedicated groups because no one wants a Lime in their party.
People can blame KOG for making progression god-awful, they can blame KOG for balances problems, but you can't blame KOG for personal choices on player etiquette. If a player is intentionally screwing up your run or failing to listen to people trying to help them, that's one thing, but it's another thing entirely to treat people like a plague just because they are either a few thousand TA too low or a character they don't like.

And it's even more toxic to bash players for wanting to play specific characters that they enjoy, just because you don't enjoy it.
I have had like 15-20 people ingame actually tell me I'm hot garbage for liking Gunslinger Mari. Yet I consistently can clear things on my own with her regardless of their input.

I stopped playing with people. The Grand Chase community is fairly tainted. If you don't follow meta you mean nothing to most people.
So my advice to OP? Learn the mechanics of stuff yourself, build your TA through Hero Collection progression and building your TID gear, Runes, and cards, and focus on bettering your own playstyle that works for you.
If you *want* to play with people, I suggest making your own group of people you know personally. That's about the only way you're guaranteed to not get treated like dogwater by the majority of the community.

This is a constant in KoG games in general, they make games with such poor balance and progression, that their communities are forced to be hyper picky with who they play with to progress, it's so abysmal.

It's not the fault of KOG for people's behavior lol
Like I said you can blame KOG for bad balances, you can't blame KOG for people's toxicity. It's not KOG's fault if I for example decided to kick everyone under 300K TA from all my parties of anything. It's not KOG's fault if I for example decide that all Lass's are banned from any party I make.
The decision a player makes, good or bad, lies on the player regardless of circumstance. You make the decision, you take responsibility for it.
And this community is Toxic with a capital T. It's as bad as LoL and almost as bad as DotA.

[batshee99]

I think you both right in a certain way. My best suggetion for lower TA players is to first try to learn the rules by watching other players playing the game. (YouTube is good place to learn ^^)
Dumb players is indeed very annoying to deal with (Especially when they not even try to look at the room title )

I myself a lower TA player and not play ToD yet because I don't want to be a burden on other veterans players till I will get strong enough and try first to play alone to learn better on the monsters and bosses and etc. (And when I feel that I'm ready to play with other players at least I will be more confident and less pain in the ass.)

[Adonai]

fyi i already uninstalled the game, i dont care anymore about all this feel free to continue the discussion, or dont..

[Capivara Albina]

Originally posted by batshee99:

I think you both right in a certain way. My best suggetion for lower TA players is to first try to learn the rules by watching other players playing the game. (YouTube is good place to learn ^^)
Dumb players is indeed very annoying to deal with (Especially when they not even try to look at the room title )

I myself a lower TA player and not play ToD yet because I don't want to be a burden on other veterans players till I will get strong enough and try first to play alone to learn better on the monsters and bosses and etc. (And when I feel that I'm ready to play with other players at least I will be more confident and less pain in the ass.)

How can they truly learn if anyone will insta kick they out? If the approach was asking first if the person who enters knows how to do the map and point to guides if not than it would be excusable. Just kicking out or raging without correcting isn't helping. One person here said that "Arme 4th skill makes Gaikoz teleport no stop", can a new player know it? If not you should say it in chat beforehand. There are a lot of things in the game that aren't clearly explained and that's a KOG's failure, raging without further explanation isn't.

[Capivara Albina]

Originally posted by Capivara Albina:

Originally posted by batshee99:

I think you both right in a certain way. My best suggetion for lower TA players is to first try to learn the rules by watching other players playing the game. (YouTube is good place to learn ^^)
Dumb players is indeed very annoying to deal with (Especially when they not even try to look at the room title )

I myself a lower TA player and not play ToD yet because I don't want to be a burden on other veterans players till I will get strong enough and try first to play alone to learn better on the monsters and bosses and etc. (And when I feel that I'm ready to play with other players at least I will be more confident and less pain in the ass.)

How can they truly learn if anyone will insta kick they out? If the approach was asking first if the person who enters knows how to do the map and point to guides if not than it would be excusable. Just kicking out or raging without correcting isn't helping. One person here said that "Arme 4th skill makes Gaikoz teleport no stop", can a new player know it? If not you should say it in chat beforehand. There are a lot of things in the game that aren't clearly explained and that's a KOG's failure, raging without further explanation isn't.

Yesterday i take a 5min berkas because there was 3 C Lvl 1 in the room and i was teaching what to do with each thing, they wouldn't know without explanation because there aren't any tutorial inside the game.

[Mega Mang EX]

Honestly, some people are just A-Holes that'll kick for one reason or another. Sometimes I get kicked upon entering ToD/ToT despite meeting the required TA or its in WL 15/24. It doesn't happen too frequently but when it does, its kinda annoying and makes me wonder if I'm doing something wrong or its the character I'm using. Funnily, most of time I'm kicked, its from Mari players (Tryhards lol).

[khermerker]

sometimes the kick.. more if its at start, is cause they want a person join the group. Now before people say, but make it with password, basicly we only have 1 person(we as community i usually play solo or Join a random party) so probably 1 enter next room full and they kick any for make 1 spot for their friend.

[Blastoise]

And thats the main reason i wont be able to complete the event, even with 300k, they still kick me, nice game design KOG, real heroes.