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Leyfon May 18, 2022 @ 10:45am
What to do with event dungeon tickets?
Hi i'm new ( well new to classic, i played CG long time ago but too much years ago, before there were those event dungeons )
I remember only moonlight village

So all told me to do circus for GP reset scroll, than i did it alone and all i got in 8 tickets was 8 socket gems...

So i was thinking... if you solo angry bosses, you can pratically craft a new relic phantom piece ( atleast from armors )
Wouldn't be better just to craft again Berkair set instead searching GP reset scroll if it is so rare???

Also i'm focusing on circus and angry bosses cause i see people mostly do that, but if i'm missing some other good thing from other event dungeons tell me :)
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khermerker May 18, 2022 @ 11:01am 
Well not really, ok will explain better so this will be long too long.

Phantom phoenix is not end equipment, is the process you pass for get end equipment. Phantom phoenix have in relic crit chance 2.87% and crit dmg 24.98%, so yup is good but well lets see the TiD 2.98% and 26.55% yup this is better now lets do math compare best phantom phoenix (all both criticals) vs TiD so we multiply by 11 the difference (yup I know 12 is mask but not exist phantom phoenix mask, so you will use TiD) and we get 1.11% more in critical chance and 17.27% now this is at 200k TA something like 8K more and I not count atk, sp atk, or atk increase of weapon and gloves so in all TiD will bring you more than 30k TA in end game than you focusing in phantom phoenix.

Now what needs TiD, well phantom phoenix relic, 20 cores of sactum and crucible with 30 of WL and that is the problem you want more stas (TiD) and need the cores that takes too long in get and you get trash equipment, in this case is not better make other.. is get gp resets and use it on TiD so yup gp resets for phantom phoenix is bad, that is for TiD, make many phantom phoenix relic is actually easy so build more chars.

Finally about chances get 1 TiD piece requires, 5-6 hours of gameplay (using more than 1 char and luck) in that time in Circus you can get with worst char (TA100K) 4 gp resets at least (probably more ) so yup gp resets go better to that. Now if you not care at all for TiD then you assumption is true, is better angrybossess but again phantom phoenix is not the equipment you want to make is TiD.
AliceShiki May 18, 2022 @ 11:38am 
There was a thread discussing it some time back. The replies are in Portuguese, but the first post is in both Portuguese and English, so you can check it: https://steamcommunity.com/app/985810/discussions/0/5457797888012966231/

As for me, I mostly do Hungry Pets Revolt to get the best title in the game and some protection scrolls.

Angry Bosses is good for the Hero Bullions, but at some point you end up having a surplus of Hero Bullions, so it starts feeling subpar... I still do it from time to time, but mostly to have fun and to craft Phantom Phoenix gear for my other characters, as my main can't really benefit from those anymore. I really need to work on my full TID for my main... Well, in any case, Angry Bosses is fun, so feel free to do it whenever you feel like it~

And as you already know, Circus is great for its Prop Reset Scrolls.

I currently don't do any other Event Dungeons, but there is a point in doing others... Most notably:

Monster Train is a good option for Title grinding if you don't wanna endure the hellish grind of doing Hungry Pets 100x.

And Talin's Revenge is good for getting a very good pet.

The rest is kinda... Eh? They have their purpose, but Circus is the one that gives the most value.
khermerker May 18, 2022 @ 11:51am 
well with respect to alice, well nope there is not good enough reason to do any other dungeon appart of well cause you are bored and want do something different. Yup best title give you more power than other titles, but is not that much i can show you for example mari 200k with sactum title vs circus title and you will see a low difference so low that get a both crit TiD bring you more power. Same with pet, yup pet helps give you stregthen but again compared of get a perfect TiD is too low that not worth.

Now with that all out, yup if you think do circus all day is boring and want do other thing.. well do it not matter even do moonlight village and get cards,, so many cards is good is not a complete waste. But think each time you do it, you do it for fun not cause is the best use.
Leyfon May 18, 2022 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by khermerker:
Well not really, ok will explain better so this will be long too long.

Phantom phoenix is not end equipment, is the process you pass for get end equipment. Phantom phoenix have in relic crit chance 2.87% and crit dmg 24.98%, so yup is good but well lets see the TiD 2.98% and 26.55% yup this is better now lets do math compare best phantom phoenix (all both criticals) vs TiD so we multiply by 11 the difference (yup I know 12 is mask but not exist phantom phoenix mask, so you will use TiD) and we get 1.11% more in critical chance and 17.27% now this is at 200k TA something like 8K more and I not count atk, sp atk, or atk increase of weapon and gloves so in all TiD will bring you more than 30k TA in end game than you focusing in phantom phoenix.

Now what needs TiD, well phantom phoenix relic, 20 cores of sactum and crucible with 30 of WL and that is the problem you want more stas (TiD) and need the cores that takes too long in get and you get trash equipment, in this case is not better make other.. is get gp resets and use it on TiD so yup gp resets for phantom phoenix is bad, that is for TiD, make many phantom phoenix relic is actually easy so build more chars.

Finally about chances get 1 TiD piece requires, 5-6 hours of gameplay (using more than 1 char and luck) in that time in Circus you can get with worst char (TA100K) 4 gp resets at least (probably more ) so yup gp resets go better to that. Now if you not care at all for TiD then you assumption is true, is better angrybossess but again phantom phoenix is not the equipment you want to make is TiD.

I don't get it friend, why are you making a comparison between hours of gameplay? that would make sense if i could farm those events infinitely. But i just joined the game 20 days ago and only have 30 event tickets... so who cares the hours of gameplay? i can use all the ticket in a sunday if i want.

And i'm not saying i'll use phantom set as endgame, ofc i want TID
I was asking instead use gp reset scroll that seems so rare ( i got none in 8 runs ) couldn't be better do 2 angry bosses ( 2 tickets only so ) and craft AGAIN the TiD piece and again till you get the good stats?

That was the real question! i obviously would never use a gp scroll on a non-endgame piece lol

Also GC club helps with gp scroll drop in circus? anyone tested? Queen boxes have a chance to give you GC club so i could try again farm circus with it


P.s. ty for the link Alice, is very useful
Blahness May 18, 2022 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by Leyfon:

I don't get it friend, why are you making a comparison between hours of gameplay? that would make sense if i could farm those events infinitely. But i just joined the game 20 days ago and only have 30 event tickets... so who cares the hours of gameplay? i can use all the ticket in a sunday if i want.

And i'm not saying i'll use phantom set as endgame, ofc i want TID
I was asking instead use gp reset scroll that seems so rare ( i got none in 8 runs ) couldn't be better do 2 angry bosses ( 2 tickets only so ) and craft AGAIN the TiD piece and again till you get the good stats?
Kher pretty much explained it, but since you didn't get It, I will explain differently.
Each piece of TiD requires dungeon cores from crucible, sanctum, and labyrinth. By the time you get enough of the crafting materials to make a single piece of TiD, you will have every single coin you would need to fully upgrade the phoenix armor. Doing angry boss will help you get the phoenix set fully upgraded faster, but it will not get you the materials required for TiD. This means if you are going to get TiD there is absolutely no reason to run angry boss, you are losing out on event tickets which you will need to get GP reset scrolls for TiD.
khermerker May 18, 2022 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by Leyfon:
Originally posted by khermerker:
Well not really, ok will explain better so this will be long too long.

Phantom phoenix is not end equipment, is the process you pass for get end equipment. Phantom phoenix have in relic crit chance 2.87% and crit dmg 24.98%, so yup is good but well lets see the TiD 2.98% and 26.55% yup this is better now lets do math compare best phantom phoenix (all both criticals) vs TiD so we multiply by 11 the difference (yup I know 12 is mask but not exist phantom phoenix mask, so you will use TiD) and we get 1.11% more in critical chance and 17.27% now this is at 200k TA something like 8K more and I not count atk, sp atk, or atk increase of weapon and gloves so in all TiD will bring you more than 30k TA in end game than you focusing in phantom phoenix.

Now what needs TiD, well phantom phoenix relic, 20 cores of sactum and crucible with 30 of WL and that is the problem you want more stas (TiD) and need the cores that takes too long in get and you get trash equipment, in this case is not better make other.. is get gp resets and use it on TiD so yup gp resets for phantom phoenix is bad, that is for TiD, make many phantom phoenix relic is actually easy so build more chars.

Finally about chances get 1 TiD piece requires, 5-6 hours of gameplay (using more than 1 char and luck) in that time in Circus you can get with worst char (TA100K) 4 gp resets at least (probably more ) so yup gp resets go better to that. Now if you not care at all for TiD then you assumption is true, is better angrybossess but again phantom phoenix is not the equipment you want to make is TiD.

I don't get it friend, why are you making a comparison between hours of gameplay? that would make sense if i could farm those events infinitely. But i just joined the game 20 days ago and only have 30 event tickets... so who cares the hours of gameplay? i can use all the ticket in a sunday if i want.

And i'm not saying i'll use phantom set as endgame, ofc i want TID
I was asking instead use gp reset scroll that seems so rare ( i got none in 8 runs ) couldn't be better do 2 angry bosses ( 2 tickets only so ) and craft AGAIN the TiD piece and again till you get the good stats?

That was the real question! i obviously would never use a gp scroll on a non-endgame piece lol

Also GC club helps with gp scroll drop in circus? anyone tested? Queen boxes have a chance to give you GC club so i could try again farm circus with it


P.s. ty for the link Alice, is very useful
OK will say first you missunderstan all drop from circus cause your experience is not good enough, lets start for the basic, what is the average number of gp resets you get in 8 runs?, if you say 0 then you are wrong, is more than 1. But you will say hey but I got nothing.. true so?, that is the thing with average sometimes I get nothing in 8 but others I get 2 in a row. Now will explain something that was not clear .. TID IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN MAKE THT EASY, yup you can make phantom phoenix easy, too easy actually but that is not true for TiD. I hope you notice something I said about cores not phantom phoenix equipment, and was not cause you no need phantom phoenix but cause core means you get HERO COINS TOO, so here comes the question how many hero coins you will get farming the cores?, yup you get 70 at least more if do WL 10+. so yup YOU NO NEED ANGRYBOSSESS for get phantom phoenix relics for TID you get more phantom phoenix relics than TiD. actually put this example I have all earrings for all chars, have 3 TiD and still have phantom phoenix full 1 char extra. By the time I make my 4 TiD will have a full phantom phoenix for other chat and working for the phantom phoenix for other char. So yup phantom phoenix is worthless to farm cause is something you get in extras for making TiD.

Remember I said, if you not care for TiD your opinion is correct do angry bossess and get 1 perfect phantom phoenix the angrybossess is way better than circus. But cause farming for TiD already give you enough hero coins for make TiD all extra hero coins farming you do go to nothing you will be already making more phantom phoenix that needed.

Now I will say something to alice and you, if you want someone valid your not optimal play ok say it at first, and I will be happy not answering. This is something that appear in Genshin impact a lot. People use math to know best chars, the char is not something you like so say trash and well they start again. The math is very clear hear, full set both criticals>hungry pets title, pet. Yup that is the only reason that farm and get a full set with both criticals is priority over rest. So with that clear what is the more efficient way to get that set in short time, well math is again clear do circus and nothing else. Now I want do angrybossess cause for me is more fun and not have interest in get there, ok really but not pretend that is the best way.

I Do things that I know they are math wrong but will not justify myself thinking that they have are efficient. Example, champion not worth to do at all, yup be that 15% extra exp or last title or worst me doing all titles from start. Now I'm doing it for change the pace of farming, I know is time used for enjoyment as game should be, and is fine but If I come here and try to convice you that is efficient that way is wrong.

Finally, can you get best TiD without do event dungeons at all, yup you can will be very long but possible if that is you want to hear ok. But I give the answer of what is the best way to do it, if you think is boring.. ok up to you but that not means what I will validate your way of do it as efficient.
AliceShiki May 18, 2022 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by khermerker:
well with respect to alice, well nope there is not good enough reason to do any other dungeon appart of well cause you are bored and want do something different. Yup best title give you more power than other titles, but is not that much i can show you for example mari 200k with sactum title vs circus title and you will see a low difference so low that get a both crit TiD bring you more power. Same with pet, yup pet helps give you stregthen but again compared of get a perfect TiD is too low that not worth.

Now with that all out, yup if you think do circus all day is boring and want do other thing.. well do it not matter even do moonlight village and get cards,, so many cards is good is not a complete waste. But think each time you do it, you do it for fun not cause is the best use.
I mean, I never denied that Circus gave the best value. It's definitely true.

But at the same time, the value gained from the scrolls is random, while the value from a good pet/title is guaranteed, so there is a point to be made there.

And well, once you get your TA high enough, you can also try grinding TOD to get the single property scrolls and the like... Which can end up further reducing the value of Circus.

I still agree with you overall that Circus is the best dungeon to be grinded. I just don't think there is "not enough of a good reason" to do the other Event Dungeons... Just getting guaranteed results from enough Hungry Pets run is enough of a reason to do it over Circus IMO... Even if it's a huge pain and that Circus ends up most likely giving better value over 100 runs, Hungry Pets still gives a guaranteed amount of extra value, which is something Circus doesn't do.
khermerker May 18, 2022 @ 12:50pm 
Ok this is me being not so angry, the best use of time in GC is boring as hell hope next update change it really. The best way to play grand chase right now is.. do berkas with main char until you can make TiD daily, rest of time do crucible and sactum with all chars, do WL all chars, best floor 15. And with ToD trying get floor 5 and/or farm pots for get floor 5. In weekends do harkion all chars get 16k+ (yup after think a lot seems worth a lot 16k) then do cricus unless all equip have both criticals, if all have both criticals then go for title in hungry pets, if have it go for pet, if have all well continue doing what you do all weekend.

IF your main char have TID with each piece crits+hungry pets title+kog pet(really if its your main dont know why you not think in have a gacha set pet), then is repeat for a new char there is nothing new to do except ToD for fine tuning.
Now for me that is boring as hell so I not do it, i Not do ToD usually yup 3 times with mari for training but not all my chars. Sometimes do circus for change of pace or angry bossess.. even do moonlight sometimes. Now even with farming circus I do it wrong, my mari with her 200k TA can finish fast that dungeon, but I prefere use my rin trying to get the pet for her, as I did with elesis, arme, lire, amy, ley... yup is inefficient use a low TA char for farm, I know is not efficient I will not suggest you do but I do it cause I like more use more chars and get something new (pet for a char that not have it) than be efficient.
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Leyfon May 18, 2022 @ 12:56pm 
I'm sorry maybe from my text i gave you the impression i was angry or i want to teach you something... i said in the first post i'm new about event-contents, i'm ""pro"" only about very old GC content

I was not pretending to have RIGHT, is just a thing i thought by myself, and i asked if it was doable.
You told me is not do-able, that's perfectly okay, now i understood

I'm sorry it looked like i did not apprecciate all your infos because i really like the time you spent to explain me with your posts :)

The simple answer was, i got bad luck on those 8 runs, that's all, okay

So if someone knows if with GC club it drops more often, tell me, i'm curious about it
khermerker May 18, 2022 @ 1:08pm 
Originally posted by AliceShiki:
Originally posted by khermerker:
well with respect to alice, well nope there is not good enough reason to do any other dungeon appart of well cause you are bored and want do something different. Yup best title give you more power than other titles, but is not that much i can show you for example mari 200k with sactum title vs circus title and you will see a low difference so low that get a both crit TiD bring you more power. Same with pet, yup pet helps give you stregthen but again compared of get a perfect TiD is too low that not worth.

Now with that all out, yup if you think do circus all day is boring and want do other thing.. well do it not matter even do moonlight village and get cards,, so many cards is good is not a complete waste. But think each time you do it, you do it for fun not cause is the best use.
I mean, I never denied that Circus gave the best value. It's definitely true.

But at the same time, the value gained from the scrolls is random, while the value from a good pet/title is guaranteed, so there is a point to be made there.

And well, once you get your TA high enough, you can also try grinding TOD to get the single property scrolls and the like... Which can end up further reducing the value of Circus.

I still agree with you overall that Circus is the best dungeon to be grinded. I just don't think there is "not enough of a good reason" to do the other Event Dungeons... Just getting guaranteed results from enough Hungry Pets run is enough of a reason to do it over Circus IMO... Even if it's a huge pain and that Circus ends up most likely giving better value over 100 runs, Hungry Pets still gives a guaranteed amount of extra value, which is something Circus doesn't do.
OK will explain probability here, so sorry will be boring. YOu not want use 1 gp reset until that equip have both critical, the chance of get 1 crit using gp reset is 61%, the chance of get 2 crit is more harder to get so trust me with 16.36%. So well now what is the chance of get 1 crit using gp reset, well you already have 1 crit and 3 bad stats, well not sure if you can get same or not I will assume not so is 14.28%. (will clarify not same, that is if you reset def, you not get def again not mean you get other of trash stats).

So well that this means, well this means you get equipment with 1 crit using gp resets too easy.. yup if you think you used a gp reset and were lucky having 1 crit you were wrong. True this is probability you could have 3 in a row without crit but, at same time is more probably you will see it with at least 1 crit. But well we got it so what is better use it for get both crits or gp reset again, well here the math is clear you have 61% of have a crit so you probably stay same with crits, but you have 16.36% of get both criticals vs keep it like that and use a 1 slot gp reset and get both criticals so in probability is way better use Gp resets of circus until you get both criticals than using it for get 1 crit and then use 1 gp reset item for get it with both criticals.
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khermerker May 18, 2022 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Leyfon:
I'm sorry maybe from my text i gave you the impression i was angry or i want to teach you something... i said in the first post i'm new about event-contents, i'm ""pro"" only about very old GC content

I was not pretending to have RIGHT, is just a thing i thought by myself, and i asked if it was doable.
You told me is not do-able, that's perfectly okay, now i understood

I'm sorry it looked like i did not apprecciate all your infos because i really like the time you spent to explain me with your posts :)

The simple answer was, i got bad luck on those 8 runs, that's all, okay

So if someone knows if with GC club it drops more often, tell me, i'm curious about it
Actually from what I know nope, this game have the rainbow event that increase drop chance of items.. except in event dungeons so sorry is more about luck. Now im not complety sure but that not really matter cause well game have no good reason for you bother in play in a efficient manner, Hope this clarify more with the start of my post. The difference of TiD vs Phantom phoenix is huge in end game but not so huge before that. I have bad videos explain this.. so well if want see them tell me, but basicly is better have a epic lvl 69 with both criticals and atk that a lvl 85 relic TID with only 1 critical... actully is worst than this. I had saw that my dmg/TA of mari increased if change my TiD with only 1 crit to a blue phantom phoenix with both criticals... T.T.

What this means is that if you have for example a phantom phoenix relic with both criticals, attack and sp attack.. is way better... not farm that part for that char, that try get a TiD. Now in reality have that is rare and you will be using gp resets for get better substats so its better use them directly in TiD that try get that phantom phoenix for the char.

Finally if like me you want play all chars, the efficient way to play is more well I not do it but is only make TiD pieces of things that have only 1 crit and change chars. yup a combination of phantom phoenix both crits+TiD give you the most of that char. Change to other give you the more usage of all chars in the low time.
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