Is this accurate?

[BlastedGod]

not quite sure why people kept saying the game lost all its players but it shows the player count here unless that's not really accurate?, i mean people kept saying dead game but 3k players seems like too many for a dead game :thonk:, just saying compared to elsword that's large whilist elsword only got 500+ players same with kurtzpel at 260-450 player count.

https://i.gyazo.com/a8a486c4a4a9be03638b898f0f7a8fff.png

[EX Fighter]

This game had 80 thousand players on its first hours.
The first week somehow managed to maintain 40 thousand players.

Now 2 months in, we're sitting at less than 5% the amount of players from day 1.

Does that seem like a healthy pattern to you? No. These are the symptoms of a failed game.
KOG has failed this game and its players yet again.

[johnnydeppno1fan]

If they had not removed all the chars maybe 95% wouldnt be disappointed and delete the game. At this point illegal servers are better

[BlastedGod]

Originally posted by Fighter:

This game had 80 thousand players on its first hours.
The first week somehow managed to maintain 40 thousand players.

Now 2 months in, we're sitting at less than 5% the amount of players from day 1.

Does that seem like a healthy pattern to you? No. These are the symptoms of a failed game.
KOG has failed this game and its players yet again.

idk but 2-4K players seems like your typical player base, i've never seen a steam game with those amount(besides the competitive ones) of active players especially the game is old to begin with not really sure how many players the old grand chase had tho and i'm pretty sure those thousands of players are the new generation trying out an 'old' game whilist the players that stayed are the people waiting for revival, basically the player base now compared to the old grand chase seems like more than it, but i coud be wrong tho. I wouldn't expect 20K+ Players to stay, 2-4K Players seems like a decent amount for an old game.

[EX Fighter]

Originally posted by BlastedGod:

idk but 2-4K players seems like your typical player base, i've never seen a steam game with those amount(besides the competitive ones) of active players especially the game is old to begin with not really sure how many players the old grand chase had tho and i'm pretty sure those thousands of players are the new generation trying out an 'old' game whilist the players that stayed are the people waiting for revival, basically the player base now compared to the old grand chase seems like more than it, but i coud be wrong tho. I wouldn't expect 20K+ Players to stay, 2-4K Players seems like a decent amount for an old game.

Grand Chase was the most popular MMO in Brazil, it achieved, by the end of the 00's decade, the milestone of over 25 thousand concurrent players on that region server alone.
This game had appeal. It's a pretty old and flawed game, but it did have a dedicated and loyal fanbase. KOG has shunned them all away with this broken and incomplete release. The brazilian community has some very successful private servers running, and it's safe to say a good amount of this game's enthusiasts are taking refuge there.
Also, this '2K-4K' metric of current players clearly isn't what KOG was going for. You can just log into the game and see it for yourself: most of the game's channels will be empty. People who are still playing report that it's already hard to find people to play with.

[BlastedGod]

never knew brazil had that much player base

[A. Faria]

Originally posted by BlastedGod:

never knew brazil had that much player base

everything he says is extremely doubtful. It would be unrealistic for grand chase to keep 70k players, he only makes hateful comments about the game on this forum

[A. Faria]

Grand Chase its sooo far away to die. Relax

[76561199195290474]

For a game with almost two decades, GC still have a big player base, it's simply 'dead game' because it had too much potential with its return, but the owner company simply don't give a damn to make a better game.
Elsword and Kurtzpel's numbers only prove that KOG is satisfied with a mediocre game that allocates only a fraction of the players who could actually be playing. GC will have the same fate.

[tQ ReCrack]

The game had a lot of potential to make a comeback at launch with an 80k playerbase. However, because KOG fails to realize (yet again) how to satisfy the players, that 80k playerbase quickly dwindled to the numbers we see now. Of course, it's wishful thinking to say that the game could have maintained 80k players if KOG went with a more consumer-friendly approach, but a steep downward trend such as this one isn't going to make KOG the profit they envision. This game is slowly dying. The playerbase gets smaller and smaller each month.

For reference, I last checked the playerbase for GC around 1-2 months ago, and it was at around 10k players. Now, I see that it's gone down to 2-4k players. There hasn't been a sign of this trend stabilizing or rising. You don't even need to know basic statistical analysis to realize that the game's playerbase is dwindling.

[EX Fighter]

Originally posted by A. Faria:

Originally posted by BlastedGod:

never knew brazil had that much player base

everything he says is extremely doubtful. It would be unrealistic for grand chase to keep 70k players, he only makes hateful comments about the game on this forum

https://www.uol.com.br/start/ultimas-noticias/2011/01/19/grand-chase-bate-recorde-de-jogadores-conectados-simultaneamente.htm

Como sempre, espalhando desinformação tirada do cu. Ninguém nunca falou em manter 70k, mas a debandada de 95% dessa galera é a prova incontestável do fracasso desse jogo falido.

[EX Fighter]

Originally posted by BlastedGod:

never knew brazil had that much player base

You can throw the article I posted above into Google Translate, it shows this game had achieved a national record when it comes to number of players. As you can see, GC Classic can't even be compared to its past iteration, and that's solely because of the producer's misdeeds.

[Lokeharz]

If you want a better overall view of how the game evolved, steamDB gives a good estimation: https://steamdb.info/app/985810/graphs/
Apparently, people log-in for the reset, at which the game peaks with ~4k players. Then you have those 2 or 3k players during the rest of the day. In one month the game lost around 15k players, which isn't a good sign, even for KoG.

[Dubious Disk]

Originally posted by A. Faria:

Originally posted by BlastedGod:

never knew brazil had that much player base

everything he says is extremely doubtful. It would be unrealistic for grand chase to keep 70k players, he only makes hateful comments about the game on this forum

He's correct though, Brazil LOVED Grand Chase, it was actually kind of weird how much they loved it in comparison to other servers, to the point that some updates would usually come first to them before anything.
The player base was just that big and booming for them back then, NA was slightly better than it is now, but still pretty bad. Say what you will about his negativity, but he is absolutely right in the fact that Brazil has a humoungous playerbase

[FlintX]

Originally posted by BlastedGod:

not quite sure why people kept saying the game lost all its players but it shows the player count here unless that's not really accurate?, i mean people kept saying dead game but 3k players seems like too many for a dead game :thonk:, just saying compared to elsword that's large whilist elsword only got 500+ players same with kurtzpel at 260-450 player count.

https://i.gyazo.com/a8a486c4a4a9be03638b898f0f7a8fff.png

Most people doesn't launch Elsword through Steam, myself included, Especifically because of some login issues.

I have 3 min on record for Elsword on Steam and a level 99 char.

[Doug]

Originally posted by BlastedGod:

idk but 2-4K players seems like your typical player base, i've never seen a steam game with those amount(besides the competitive ones) of active players especially the game is old to begin with not really sure how many players the old grand chase had tho and i'm pretty sure those thousands of players are the new generation trying out an 'old' game whilist the players that stayed are the people waiting for revival, basically the player base now compared to the old grand chase seems like more than it, but i coud be wrong tho. I wouldn't expect 20K+ Players to stay, 2-4K Players seems like a decent amount for an old game.

Warframe is also a very old game, but it is still active today and receiving several updates, just see the graphic. This graph only counts people playing on steam, the game is even bigger because it is possible to play without steam, in addition to PS4, Xbox and Nitendo players.
https://steamcharts.com/app/230410

The KOG had more than enough time to update the game to current standards, if you look at the GC graph during the first month you will notice that for a while it was in the 50k range, after people see that the game hasn't changed ANYTHING started to go down and stabilized between 30~25k and after longer weeks without any relevant updates it just plummeted to what we see today. So no, the problem is not the game or the fan base, but the ridiculous management of the company.

GC: https://steamcharts.com/app/985810#All