The Ascent

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Igor Kuv May 7, 2020 @ 9:14am
Clone of RUINER
It soooo simular to "Ruiner" from Devolver.
Same cyberpunk setting, same game mechanics, isometric camera, even art style is simular... with that big red letters.. I hope the game will be close to Ruiner. At least thanks for co-op mode.
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Gadzooks May 7, 2020 @ 9:19am 
Im not so sure

Ruiner is a twin stick Shootem up, in the style of Killing Gameshow. Its super fast paced, with a very arcade like feel to it.

This game looks more like a cyberpunk diablo game, with guns instead of swords.
Igor Kuv May 7, 2020 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by Gadzooks:
Im not so sure

Ruiner is a twin stick Shootem up, in the style of Killing Gameshow. Its super fast paced, with a very arcade like feel to it.

This game looks more like a cyberpunk diablo game, with guns instead of swords.
and what the main changes in mechanics? only slow pace?
Mr. No_Effs_Given May 7, 2020 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by Gadzooks:
Im not so sure

Ruiner is a twin stick Shootem up, in the style of Killing Gameshow. Its super fast paced, with a very arcade like feel to it.

This game looks more like a cyberpunk diablo game, with guns instead of swords.
Pretty much. Imo, it looks way better than Ruiner. The enviroments seems more alive and colorful as well.
Ray May 7, 2020 @ 1:52pm 
Originally posted by Igor Kuv:
It soooo simular to "Ruiner" from Devolver.
Same cyberpunk setting, same game mechanics, isometric camera, even art style is simular... with that big red letters.. I hope the game will be close to Ruiner. At least thanks for co-op mode.
The world of Ascent looks incredible. Even though Ruiner was a great game, it didn't have much content.
Shrike May 7, 2020 @ 3:11pm 
No. Ruiner has a Akira inspired world, stylized rendering and Hotline miami style gameplay
This has a cyberpunk inspired world, more realistic rendering and is an action RPG
And Devolver did not make Ruiner neither, they just published it

Game looks way too good for my taste ;P But let's see how the gameplay holds up.
Igor Kuv May 8, 2020 @ 1:53am 
Originally posted by Shrike:
No. Ruiner has a Akira inspired world, stylized rendering and Hotline miami style gameplay
This has a cyberpunk inspired world, more realistic rendering and is an action RPG
And Devolver did not make Ruiner neither, they just published it

Game looks way too good for my taste ;P But let's see how the gameplay holds up.

Hopefully it will look better then Ruiner, becouse there is 2020 now, next gen, ray tracing and all this stuff
Igor Kuv May 8, 2020 @ 1:55am 
Originally posted by Ray:
Originally posted by Igor Kuv:
It soooo simular to "Ruiner" from Devolver.
Same cyberpunk setting, same game mechanics, isometric camera, even art style is simular... with that big red letters.. I hope the game will be close to Ruiner. At least thanks for co-op mode.
The world of Ascent looks incredible. Even though Ruiner was a great game, it didn't have much content.
I agree. Content is the key, nowadays. gameplay can be taken from free toolkit in any game engine
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@xaker89 May 8, 2020 @ 4:08am 
Ты хоть через гугл переводчика проводи то что ты пишешь, прежде чем постить, стыдно, игра только внешне похожа на Ruiner, у них разные жанры, если ты вообще понимаешь что такое жанр.
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King Hadu May 8, 2020 @ 7:00am 
Will this have unlimited gameplay hours like diablo and path of exile?
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NyuBomber May 8, 2020 @ 10:06am 
They're both cyberpunk games that use top-down shooting mechanics as the main gameplay, but Ascent is clearly not a clone.

- Ruiner's aesthetic is sleeker and mechanized; Ascent seems to be leaning way more into urban grunge and organic grit. They simply do not look alike, artistically.

- Ruiner is focused way more on precise, fast-reflex combat combinations, maneuvers, and action-puzzling. From what preview footage and writing is out there of Ascent, it's generally slower and focused way more on being closer to Diablo or Path of Exile: customizing a build of your choice and progressively making it more powerful to fight tougher enemies to hunt for better loot to fight tougher enemies, etc. Top-down shooting may be the mechanism, but both games seem to be using it very differently. Further, The Ascent will be mutiplayer-capable; Ruiner is single-player.

- Continuing from above, Ascent may in fact have both a story campaign and an "endgame" state where you're min/maxing and hunting for the rarest items to fight the truly toughest enemies/bosses. I certainly don't know, because they haven't said anything about that yet. What I do know is that Ruiner is *not* that sort of game. It's a beginning-middle-end narrative with the "endgame" being perfecting your high score on levels.

Direct video comparisons:

Ruiner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCOxG0F1z6g
The Ascent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcsBxA9Q2M0

Different sorts of games.
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Kai May 8, 2020 @ 10:51am 
Ruiner stood out a lot because of its soundtrack, im hoping this has a good ambiance.
BlackjackGT May 8, 2020 @ 7:59pm 
Originally posted by Shrike:
No. Ruiner has a Akira inspired world, stylized rendering and Hotline miami style gameplay
This has a cyberpunk inspired world, more realistic rendering and is an action RPG
And Devolver did not make Ruiner neither, they just published it

Game looks way too good for my taste ;P But let's see how the gameplay holds up.
And those Synthetik devs proved you don't need a long game dev track record to do something great with your first game (wink wink nudge nudge). :steamhappy:

This looks like a twin stick shooter to me, but I've found in interactions with some indie devs that it's become this verboten term, and they'd rather market themselves as ARPGs or top down shooters or isometric shooters, anything but twin stick, for whatever reason.
Last edited by BlackjackGT; May 8, 2020 @ 7:59pm
Vælkyr May 9, 2020 @ 4:58am 
I see that I am not the only one who thinks like this which is not a bad thing to compare. If you like RUINER, then you would love this and I'm pretty sure the devs behind that game is supportive for this.

To me, It's like RUINER in a Judge Dredd movie setting.
Igor Kuv May 14, 2020 @ 1:41am 
Originally posted by NyuBomber:
They're both cyberpunk games that use top-down shooting mechanics as the main gameplay, but Ascent is clearly not a clone.

- Ruiner's aesthetic is sleeker and mechanized; Ascent seems to be leaning way more into urban grunge and organic grit. They simply do not look alike, artistically.

- Ruiner is focused way more on precise, fast-reflex combat combinations, maneuvers, and action-puzzling. From what preview footage and writing is out there of Ascent, it's generally slower and focused way more on being closer to Diablo or Path of Exile: customizing a build of your choice and progressively making it more powerful to fight tougher enemies to hunt for better loot to fight tougher enemies, etc. Top-down shooting may be the mechanism, but both games seem to be using it very differently. Further, The Ascent will be mutiplayer-capable; Ruiner is single-player.

- Continuing from above, Ascent may in fact have both a story campaign and an "endgame" state where you're min/maxing and hunting for the rarest items to fight the truly toughest enemies/bosses. I certainly don't know, because they haven't said anything about that yet. What I do know is that Ruiner is *not* that sort of game. It's a beginning-middle-end narrative with the "endgame" being perfecting your high score on levels.

Direct video comparisons:

Ruiner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCOxG0F1z6g
The Ascent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcsBxA9Q2M0

Different sorts of games.

The main point of yours, is that: "seem to be using it very differently". In my opinion it seems to be not. But i hope to be wrong.
Igor Kuv May 14, 2020 @ 1:42am 
Originally posted by @xaker89:
Ты хоть через гугл переводчика проводи то что ты пишешь, прежде чем постить, стыдно, игра только внешне похожа на Ruiner, у них разные жанры, если ты вообще понимаешь что такое жанр.
а ну, поясни за жанры
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