Big worm on Day 3??

[Aizen]

I had almost 2 full lv 5 squads and a decently walled off base, was about to unlock phase 2 for turrets... Then it all gets squashed by the worm?
I got it down to like half hp but is there anything I can do against it reasonably without 100 units??

[[PBS] epsilonion]

how you meant to kill it? it kept disappearing on my screen..

[Lobster]

Hate it. The worm has to go.

[ROE]

Originally posted by PBSr epsilonion:

how you meant to kill it? it kept disappearing on my screen..

Depends on your doctrines.

If you have assault, the attack helicopters can fry it.

If you use mobile, the grenade launcher and javelin can kill it fairly well.

If you use defense you are screwed.

JK. Kind of. Use concentrated mortar fire to kill it.

Jeeps with fifty cals also provide a nice punch. Other than that spam turrets in a ring or use about ten units to concentrate fire.

Also, if you wound the worm it will retreat underground and heal.

[Dark the Great]

Originally posted by Sōsuke Aizen:

I had almost 2 full lv 5 squads and a decently walled off base, was about to unlock phase 2 for turrets... Then it all gets squashed by the worm?
I got it down to like half hp but is there anything I can do against it reasonably without 100 units??

A 20-30 man team can kill the worm within 20 seconds with quick precise movement You dont need vehicles to take it down by any means. But they certainly make it easier

[Aizen]

Originally posted by ROE:

Originally posted by PBSr epsilonion:

how you meant to kill it? it kept disappearing on my screen..

Depends on your doctrines.

If you have assault, the attack helicopters can fry it.

If you use mobile, the grenade launcher and javelin can kill it fairly well.

If you use defense you are screwed.

JK. Kind of. Use concentrated mortar fire to kill it.

Jeeps with fifty cals also provide a nice punch. Other than that spam turrets in a ring or use about ten units to concentrate fire.

Also, if you wound the worm it will retreat underground and heal.

Oh so I can't kill it if it just goes underground?
And I dont have an issue with the worm itself but it appearing on day 3 when I have to already hold like 4 outposts, 2 get attacked by jauggernauts and then a worm shows up.. I wasn't quite yet into Phase 2 so I didn't have the building to make helicopters yet either. Just seems weird to me to handle the economy. I wanna hold multiple outposts for income but I waste all the income on defending them

[Aizen]

Originally posted by Dark the Great:

Originally posted by Sōsuke Aizen:

I had almost 2 full lv 5 squads and a decently walled off base, was about to unlock phase 2 for turrets... Then it all gets squashed by the worm?
I got it down to like half hp but is there anything I can do against it reasonably without 100 units??

A 20-30 man team can kill the worm within 20 seconds with quick precise movement You dont need vehicles to take it down by any means. But they certainly make it easier

Had a very hard time understanding the attacks of the worm, I think it needs better visuals for its attack animations and where it will actually hit

[Dark the Great]

Noted! Will forward this along

[Warhero100]

So the worm can simply appear at your base and destroy it before you can move any viable assets to kill it. While its also spitting out the bugs. I dont mind the worm but it shouldnt be able to hit the base out of nowhere with no warning. And especially when honestly it seems there is minimal infection. It also negates the fact of fencing and turrets. While its cool and this game is reminding me more and more of a prototype like infection. I loved this recent update but that worm. Also is there a way to prevent it from just appearing at the base atleast predicting its path? Underground sensors or some kind of anti worm net?

[Dark the Great]

Originally posted by Warhero100:

So the worm can simply appear at your base and destroy it before you can move any viable assets to kill it. While its also spitting out the bugs. I dont mind the worm but it shouldnt be able to hit the base out of nowhere with no warning. And especially when honestly it seems there is minimal infection. It also negates the fact of fencing and turrets. While its cool and this game is reminding me more and more of a prototype like infection. I loved this recent update but that worm. Also is there a way to prevent it from just appearing at the base atleast predicting its path? Underground sensors or some kind of anti worm net?

The sensors you build can build a detection network to track his movement. The worm is a counter towards playstyles that "turtle" he will target masses of structures and can only appear after day 3. Worms can be killed with a small group of 20 or so men! Its mean to get you to get out there and stop people from farming all day in a small space. I mean you can still do that but you now need a crack team of defenders to hunt the worm for when it does show up

[ROE]

Originally posted by Dark the Great:

Originally posted by Warhero100:

So the worm can simply appear at your base and destroy it before you can move any viable assets to kill it. While its also spitting out the bugs. I dont mind the worm but it shouldnt be able to hit the base out of nowhere with no warning. And especially when honestly it seems there is minimal infection. It also negates the fact of fencing and turrets. While its cool and this game is reminding me more and more of a prototype like infection. I loved this recent update but that worm. Also is there a way to prevent it from just appearing at the base atleast predicting its path? Underground sensors or some kind of anti worm net?

The sensors you build can build a detection network to track his movement. The worm is a counter towards playstyles that "turtle" he will target masses of structures and can only appear after day 3. Worms can be killed with a small group of 20 or so men! Its mean to get you to get out there and stop people from farming all day in a small space. I mean you can still do that but you now need a crack team of defenders to hunt the worm for when it does show up

It works too. I don't care for or against the worm, but if you are going to turtle up you better have a counter in place. I have had three attack my main base at once. It is hectic. If you want to avoid facing so many worms at once then you have to keep the AI from having to many resources. That means capping points and holding them. There is a sweet spot where you can base up and catch a breath before moving into the city itself. Right now, the balance is good enough.

B.E. aggressive.

[Gixxer Jax]

This game is coming along nicely, but yeh Im having a slight issue with the giant worm. I kind of enjoy playing at a slower pace, so building up defences and saving money to buy the upgrades and then move out to capture points...but this worm.... ruined my ingame life and took out my nicely made base and defences haha..... I would actually prefer to be able to choose whether I want the worm in the game or not in the settings. At least until I can work out how to build and capture points faster without getting overwhelmed. (Ive adjusted which day the worm appears at now in the settings. Anyways fun game. Looking forward to more content in the future.

[Dark the Great]

Originally posted by Gixxer Jax:

This game is coming along nicely, but yeh Im having a slight issue with the giant worm. I kind of enjoy playing at a slower pace, so building up defences and saving money to buy the upgrades and then move out to capture points...but this worm.... ruined my ingame life and took out my nicely made base and defences haha..... I would actually prefer to be able to choose whether I want the worm in the game or not in the settings. At least until I can work out how to build and capture points faster without getting overwhelmed. (Ive adjusted which day the worm appears at now in the settings. Anyways fun game. Looking forward to more content in the future.

You can if you choose custom game? Its meant to give challenge to players that well turtle

[Aizen]

Originally posted by Dark the Great:

Originally posted by Gixxer Jax:

This game is coming along nicely, but yeh Im having a slight issue with the giant worm. I kind of enjoy playing at a slower pace, so building up defences and saving money to buy the upgrades and then move out to capture points...but this worm.... ruined my ingame life and took out my nicely made base and defences haha..... I would actually prefer to be able to choose whether I want the worm in the game or not in the settings. At least until I can work out how to build and capture points faster without getting overwhelmed. (Ive adjusted which day the worm appears at now in the settings. Anyways fun game. Looking forward to more content in the future.

You can if you choose custom game? Its meant to give challenge to players that well turtle

Hey Dev,
can you help me understand the fog of war? Alot of the times I get shot by the infected towers before I can even see them even with flashlights on. Is there nothing I can do against this?

[Dark the Great]

Originally posted by Sōsuke Aizen:

Originally posted by Dark the Great:

You can if you choose custom game? Its meant to give challenge to players that well turtle

Hey Dev,
can you help me understand the fog of war? Alot of the times I get shot by the infected towers before I can even see them even with flashlights on. Is there nothing I can do against this?

So just to confirm the defense pods are sniping your units? When your out of your line of sight for them? Plus it's night time? How often does this occur to you? That does sound a bit troubling

[Benzin]

If i may offer some honest feedback on this worm issue:

TBH, I just dont like the worm thing. Im not talking about difficulty, or weather it should pop up on day 3 or day 300. I just dont like it. It seems completely out of place in the context of the game, it feels extremely awkward compared to the rest of the game mechanics, visuals, combat, etc.
It feels as out of place as if in a WW2 tank combat game, suddenly "Godzilla" showed up.

If it were up to me, i would just scrap it from the game entirely. Or at least place a checkbox on the new game options to disable them from appearing in the game.

Please dont take offence at this, its not intended as a complain or dislike of the game (i do like the game a lot). Its just some honest, constructive critisism.