Crew keeps sending transferred items back to starting station...

[Ruin]

I'm trying to transfer construction materials to my under-construction ship, but my crew, rather than moving the items to the nearest large storage (which is empty), keep transferring them straight into the loading chute for the shuttle...

The storage area is powered, is currently empty (since they won't store anything in it) and I have even setup rules requiring a minimum of the items being transferred, but my crew insist on sending everything that arrives on my ship straight back to my starting station...

I have even set my new ship as being the job priority for all crew members...

This has so far resulted in several power outages, due to delays in getting new rods sent over, along with O2 issues, due to the lack of water on the ship, and a general stalling in anything being built...

UPDATE :

I literally just witnessed one of my crew finally move some of the items into the storage bay, just for another crew member to move them BACK to the loading chute, completely emptying the storage bay...

I have also just witnessed one crew member move objects into storage, to then move those same objects into the loading chute immediately after...

Something is definitely wrong with the AI here and has made the game almost unplayable as I'm struggling to get work completed...


I have tried cancelling all trades, and also restarting the game, but crew immediately started shunting around items again the moment they arrived...

Even setting logistics to minimum priority, with construction set highest, has not stopped crew immediately resending items back to the station...

[aksel_bugbyte]

You probably have rules set which is causing the behavior.

Check all storages and open up the "rules" tab. Then make sure not to have rules in there which cause the behavior.

Do also the same for your station and ships. Select them and open the "rules" tab, then make sure you do not have rules causing the behavior.

It might be best to just remove all rules you have set and use "Transfer" instead, transfer is intended for transferring stuff to another ship. =)

[Ruin]

Yeah, rules was not the issue... I had no rules set prior to this occurring... I resorted to trying to setup rules to try and resolve the issue by trying to force a minimum be kept in the affected storage...

(Just thinking, I should try removing and rebuilding the storage bay, as it's the only solution I have no tried yet...)

As for priorities, I set logistics to the absolute minimum (without stopping it entirely) and my crew were still just shunting around items...

I've since tried replicating the issue on a new game, as well as an earlier save, to no avail...

I'll keep plugging away and if it happens again, I'll post here with further observations...

[aksel_bugbyte]

Ok! If you do get it again in a way where if you load the game the issue still persists then that would be awesome. Then you can press F11 and write what is happening (This will send in a bug report to us). This only works if the problem persists after loading the game.

[Ruin]

Yeah, I've got a save where it happens repeatedly, but, I'll keep an eye on it, and if it happens again, I'll do that...

It may well be something I did, since it was not occurring on a new game...

[General Mayhem]

I had the same problem...I had the stations (zoom out) Settings set to Auto Resource. When I turned that off, the shuttles stopped bringing supplies back on return trips and I was able to strip the station of all stored resources.

[Cormac]

I have the exact same issue on my ship and can't find the solution. Where is that auto resource option? EDIT I think I found that setting but turning that off didn't change anything.

[aksel_bugbyte]

Originally posted by Cormac:

I have the exact same issue on my ship and can't find the solution. Where is that auto resource option? EDIT I think I found that setting but turning that off didn't change anything.

Hi there.

What is your exact situation? Are you in the abandoned mining station scenario at the start sector or out exploring with your ship and resources are going to some derelict?

It can be the resource rules creating this behavior. There are two possibilities:

1. Resource rules have been set to "empty" on your own ship. (Which means resources will be emptied from this ship and brought to another ship)
2. Resource rules have been set to "bring here" on the other ship (Which means resources will be brought to this ship)

You can check these by:

1. Select your own ship. Then from lower left open the "rules" tab. See if there are any rules set for resources and then remove them.
2. Select the other ship and once again open the rules tab from the lower left. See if there are any resource rules set and remove them.

[Cormac]

I'm out exploring with my ship. It is the "a small hope" scenario.
There is a derelict and two cargo shuttles from the exodus fleet in my sector.
I checked the rule tab and there is no rule for my ship or the derelict.
I can provide the save file if needed.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by Cormac:

I'm out exploring with my ship. It is the "a small hope" scenario.
There is a derelict and two cargo shuttles from the exodus fleet in my sector.
I checked the rule tab and there is no rule for my ship or the derelict.
I can provide the save file if needed.

Wait. This is definetly not the exact same situation as described in the original Post.

So could you elaborate where you are experiencing this issue?

You have your ship, there is a derelict and you asked and received two cargo shuttles from the Exodus fleet.
So where is the issue with bringing items from and then right back to happening?

[Cormac]

Here is the exact loop :
The crew loads the airlock with the items. The shuttle takes the items through the airlock, undocks, moves a bit then docks again to the airlock and unloads. the crew takes the items and so on.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by Cormac:

Here is the exact loop :
The crew loads the airlock with the items. The shuttle takes the items through the airlock, undocks, moves a bit then docks again to the airlock and unloads. the crew takes the items and so on.

But where? On the derelict? Where are your goods supposed to go and from where?

[aksel_bugbyte]

Hello!

Ok. So is the shuttle first loaded with resources.

Then it goes and flies a little bit.

And then immediately back to the same airlock it was loaded at?

And loops like that?

If it persists after loading your saved game you can press F11 and send in a bug report to us. It will also send the saved game. But this is mostly only useful if the bug persists after loading.

[Cormac]

Hello !
The problem persists after loading. I just did the report with the ingame tool. I started a new game and there is no problem on this save. If the problem comes from something I did (a rule of something) it looks like the game doesn't let me undo that. Anyway thanks for your replys and for this cool game !

[aksel_bugbyte]

Hi!

I checked your saved game in the bug report tool and sure enough the shuttle is going back and forth and crew with resources as well.

I think it may be some ghost transfer order. When the ship is selected and the transfer tab opened there are resources there on their way somewhere. It is probably from an earlier sector.

And the sector was left and the transfer order remained. This is my guess but will still take a look with our programmer!

[Cormac]

If I remember correctly it may have happenned right after I requested resources from exodus fleet.