For those who complain about aim assist

[Abdee]

I just witnessed my 15 year old brother-in-law jump off the tower in H2A Zenith and perfectly no-scope two dudes in the head before hitting the ground. He is a M & KB user and his first time playing Halo was when Reach launched back in November. The doctor called and recommends getting good.

[Izlude]

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[[NB/MLM] Alsander and Ciaran]

And this relevant to Aim Assist because?

[Woody]

I used KB&M from release to April 20. Just started using a controller, and my average kills per match have gone up by at least 5. Playing matchmaking with a controller is easy mode. And if other people are doing it, you're damn right I will too.

This is a PC game. Everyone has a keyboard, and mice are common. REMOVE AIM ASSIST.

[ToastyRick]

Originally posted by Woody:

I used KB&M from release to April 20. Just started using a controller, and my average kills per match have gone up by at least 5. Playing matchmaking with a controller is easy mode. And if other people are doing it, you're damn right I will too.

This is a PC game. Everyone has a keyboard, and mice are common. REMOVE AIM ASSIST.

UUUUUHHH????? No. You can't just remove aim assist, It's a part of the halo feeling.

Btw your comment makes zero sense. You claimed you just switched to controller and now you're doing better, and now you're asking for controller aim assist to be removed because it's a pc game which would make you worse........Does any part of that sound logical to you?

[Skullmonkey]

Originally posted by Alsander The Felngo:

And this relevant to Aim Assist because?

Because bad players are insisting the reason why they keep dying every 20-30 seconds is because of aim assist and not because of their lack of skill or aim.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by ToastyRickJr.:

Originally posted by Woody:

I used KB&M from release to April 20. Just started using a controller, and my average kills per match have gone up by at least 5. Playing matchmaking with a controller is easy mode. And if other people are doing it, you're damn right I will too.

This is a PC game. Everyone has a keyboard, and mice are common. REMOVE AIM ASSIST.

UUUUUHHH????? No. You can't just remove aim assist, It's a part of the halo feeling.

Btw your comment makes zero sense. You claimed you just switched to controller and now you're doing better, and now you're asking for controller aim assist to be removed because it's a pc game which would make you worse........Does any part of that sound logical to you?

Because it gives an obvious advantage that needs to be removed, is reading comprehension that hard these days? Put 2 and 2 together.

[Define Brackish Water]

I used to play a lot of console games. I prefer to remove aim assist because it gets in my way when I aim. Even if it stays as-is I want to be able to turn it off.

What complicates this whole thing is that when you play using a controller you have to account for the fact that you don't have as fine of control as you do a mouse. I'm suddenly handicapped and have to make sure I plan accordingly. Because I'm so good at Halo I can still stomp around and win matches not because of my mouse or controller but because of my skill as a player.

The whole series was designed to be played using a controller. The maps, guns, and everything else reflect this design choice.

On top of this is that Halo strongly rewards strategic play. The skill ceiling is higher for PC players because they have more flexibility. The skill floor for console players is higher because they have features to help them out. On top of this some aim assist stuff like magnetism (bigger hitboxes) effects both mouse and controller users equally.

[The_Penance]

Wait... halo had aim assist? i'm actually happy there is none. Especially for the multiplayer. The aim assist is fine... let it be gone.

[Izlude]

Lets be real. No one believes for a second that the people who say "Aim assist doesnt make it easier" are actually playing with a K and M. They might say it but I dont think anyone actually believes it. We are all thinking "Ah ok this person uses a controller and dont want an advantage removed"

[Stryker]

Wow great an anecdote what a great argument dude

[Bitwolf]

Sadly as a pc player who wants lobbies seprated by input i've come to a harsh conclusion.

You can't take the controller out of halo, even if you remove aim assist.

Everything from strafing, how the vehicles control and handle, the guns, the maps, the magnitism they were made with the idea that everyone has a controller, there's a reason that black ops 4 had to be rebalnaced from its console counterpart, some fps games just were never meant to work with a keyboard or a controller. Hell just games in general, good luck playing dark souls on a keyboard, or a rts with a controller.

[Exodus]

Aim assist breaks halo reach the most, and it would probably break halo 2 as well. Halo is much easier with the controller it's game design was fundamentally based around it. I think the other games would be fine. Three round burst weapons feel natural on kbm imo. This is probably preference because I hate using semi's they feel "bad" on kbm.

No keyboard and mouse player has precise aim in fact the disparity in skill gap between mouse and keyboard is far greater than between controller users, aim assist breaks the balance, and this is just true, because the game just works with AA, using mouse as an input is not what the game was based around, nor does it give them any advantage asides from extremely long engagements which do not happen in games like reach for instance, because we all know it doesn't work, everyone is going to sprint behind cover at long shots.

It's your thumb vs your hand, people's hands can shake or jitter during aiming one of the major drawbacks of using mouse as an input, this isn't the case when your using your thumbs with AA helping you.

[PupleCj♤]

Originally posted by ToastyRickJr.:

Originally posted by Woody:

I used KB&M from release to April 20. Just started using a controller, and my average kills per match have gone up by at least 5. Playing matchmaking with a controller is easy mode. And if other people are doing it, you're damn right I will too.

This is a PC game. Everyone has a keyboard, and mice are common. REMOVE AIM ASSIST.

UUUUUHHH????? No. You can't just remove aim assist, It's a part of the halo feeling.

Btw your comment makes zero sense. You claimed you just switched to controller and now you're doing better, and now you're asking for controller aim assist to be removed because it's a pc game which would make you worse........Does any part of that sound logical to you?

If aim assist goes for controller then it will be a big disadvantage for controller players. When cross-play comes out it will be the same as it is now and they can not fix that or the game will flip and people using controller both on pc and xbox wont like the game any more cuss they would of took aim assist away from them.

[Bitwolf]

Sadly, no matter which side of the fence you're on, the only working solution is input locked lobbies, allow xbox one users to play with kb/m, and lock them by input, so it wont even matter if you think aim assist is op or its not, cause you wont be against each other.

[Cmoney]

Originally posted by Exodus:

Aim assist breaks halo reach the most, and it would probably break halo 2 as well. Halo is much easier with the controller it's game design was fundamentally based around it. I think the other games would be fine. Three round burst weapons feel natural on kbm imo. This is probably preference because I hate using semi's they feel "bad" on kbm.

No keyboard and mouse player has precise aim in fact the disparity in skill gap between mouse and keyboard is far greater than between controller users, aim assist breaks the balance, and this is just true, because the game just works with AA, using mouse as an input is not what the game was based around, nor does it give them any advantage asides from extremely long engagements which do not happen in games like reach for instance, because we all know it doesn't work, everyone is going to sprint behind cover at long shots.

It's your thumb vs your hand, people's hands can shake or jittter during aiming one of the major drawbacks of using mouse as an input, this isn't the case when your using your thumbs with AA helping you.

holy hell people adjust you dpi or have yourself checked out if you have such problems with 'jittering' throwing off aim. Low dpi tends to work better with halo anyway since you are tracking a target for multiple shots in closer ranges. Also doesn't matter what a game 'was made for' a mouse is always gonna be superior if its functional, its just superior to a analog stick in every way. Otherwise aim assist wouldn't have existed as a crutch for sticks to begin with. I do agree comp playlists should have it turned off though since its supposed to be competitive but its fine for social, git gud.