If you play on WIFI, please uninstall

[EdgarAllenPathOfExile]

Thank you

[Fell]

Originally posted by Limbo:

Originally posted by Fell:

Personally I wouldn't want to mess up someone elses game for simply playing with my garbage wifi latency. Some people dont care about anyone but themselves, and some people do.

And no, no house layout can "force" someone to use wifi. You can put cables in ways you can barely even see them. Maybe not something a child can do, tho.

Ah classic, calling someone a child over the internet. My router is downstairs, I would need to run a cable up the staircase, along a hallway/corridor, and around the edge of my room to the PC. It would mean fixing the cable to the side of the staircase (ruining the wood), or putting it under the carpet (causing a bump around the edge). The only other way is to have a cable across my room and hallway, and hanging down from the landing to the router, or fitting another ethernet socket upstairs.

A cable connection is objectively better, but is not feasible/possible for everyone. I'm not a selfish person, but for the small amount of time I play online games with a peer to peer connection it's not worth it.

I didn't call you a child, I implied that anyone that isn't a child can do it; meaning you. You could probably easily handle a simple cord to line the walls and corners.
You don't have to ruin the wood, there are clips with minimal pins or even adhesive to use. So you have no excuse apart from being lazy.

Yes it is feasible/possible for everyone. You just admitted it's "not worth it". You're lazy.

[Fell]

Sidenote; Wifi may be a plague on P2P gaming, but disconnecters in KL are even more annoying. Just had a polish Baraka disconnect just as I was about to deal the winning blow. "Morty Smith". Thats like the 4th disconnecter just today. Gets so tiring

[EdgarAllenPathOfExile]

We just need a filter that simply does not match people with actual internet and people who have wifi. Wifi players can play one another and lag to death for all I care but as of now most of my losses in this ranked season are to me just putting down the controller because the opponent has such a ♥♥♥♥ internet that the game is unplayable yet it force matches me with them.

[RABiD Justice]

That would never work. Wifi players would not even play each other.

[Warpsmith_GREW50ME]

I don't know why modern consoles stopped allowing 56K connections, only to roll back over and allow WiFi later.

So, instead of having a connection that is always slow, you now have a connection that is sometimes okay and sometimes not connecting at all? Two steps back.

I'm sorry, but hardware engineers should have never been stupid enough to create WiFi on any gaming machine.

[Maschinengewehr]

Originally posted by Limbo:

My router is downstairs, I would need to run a cable up the staircase, along a hallway/corridor, and around the edge of my room to the PC. It would mean fixing the cable to the side of the staircase (ruining the wood), or putting it under the carpet (causing a bump around the edge). The only other way is to have a cable across my room and hallway, and hanging down from the landing to the router, or fitting another ethernet socket upstairs.

A cable connection is objectively better, but is not feasible/possible for everyone. I'm not a selfish person, but for the small amount of time I play online games with a peer to peer connection it's not worth it.

This.

[Warpsmith_GREW50ME]

Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:

Originally posted by Limbo:

My router is downstairs, I would need to run a cable up the staircase, along a hallway/corridor, and around the edge of my room to the PC. It would mean fixing the cable to the side of the staircase (ruining the wood), or putting it under the carpet (causing a bump around the edge). The only other way is to have a cable across my room and hallway, and hanging down from the landing to the router, or fitting another ethernet socket upstairs.

A cable connection is objectively better, but is not feasible/possible for everyone. I'm not a selfish person, but for the small amount of time I play online games with a peer to peer connection it's not worth it.

This.

Sounds like whining and excuses to me...

If you're gaming online, then run a cable or don't game.

Motherboards and consoles shouldn't even have WiFi on them. If they're going to allow that, then they should just allow 56K connections while they're at it.

[tragickingdom]

Originally posted by Fell:

Originally posted by tragickingdom:

I have two gaming PCs I play between with this game, 1 of them is WIFI and I guarantee it is not slow and is probably faster than your LAN. I made sure to research the best wifi card out there to make sure it was decent for this game.

I have 100mb fiber. Fairly common in Sweden.

The issue with WIFI isn't speed, but the fact that it's unstable compared to wired. Packet loss, etc. Cant send and receive data at the same time on WiFi. This is bad when it comes to P2P, for obvious reasons.
This is why everyone (except certain wifi users) agree that wired is the way to go. It's not really an opinion. It just is.

I have 100MB fiber-optic as well. But you live in Sweeden and this is America. we are going to have high response times if we play each other regardless of my connection type.

[Maschinengewehr]

Originally posted by tragickingdom:

Originally posted by Fell:

I have 100mb fiber. Fairly common in Sweden.

The issue with WIFI isn't speed, but the fact that it's unstable compared to wired. Packet loss, etc. Cant send and receive data at the same time on WiFi. This is bad when it comes to P2P, for obvious reasons.
This is why everyone (except certain wifi users) agree that wired is the way to go. It's not really an opinion. It just is.

I have 100MB fiber-optic as well. But you live in Sweeden and this is America. we are going to have high response times if we play each other regardless of my connection type.

Exactly. Which is why I say don't play FG multi if you don't live in the regions that it is popular in.

So MK11 is good for the Americas and Europe. Outside of that there's going to be issues with latency.

[Maschinengewehr]

Originally posted by GREW50ME:

Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:

This.

Sounds like whining and excuses to me...

If you're gaming online, then run a cable or don't game.

Motherboards and consoles shouldn't even have WiFi on them. If they're going to allow that, then they should just allow 56K connections while they're at it.

That's ridiculous. What are we going to do next, bar people who have GPUs below a GTX 1070 capability?

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Originally posted by node357:

Originally posted by Limbo:

Well why would I care if my wifi made someone else's experience bad. If it works fine for me that's all that matters. It's not "lazy", some people's house layout can force them to use wifi, some people don't want cables lying around.

How selfish. Thanks for backing up my claim that wifi players are griefers.

It's way easier for you to pull an ethernet cable out the back of your PC mid game than it is for me to unscrew my side panel and take out a pci-e wireless adapter mid game.

[Fell]

Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:

Originally posted by Limbo:

My router is downstairs, I would need to run a cable up the staircase, along a hallway/corridor, and around the edge of my room to the PC. It would mean fixing the cable to the side of the staircase (ruining the wood), or putting it under the carpet (causing a bump around the edge). The only other way is to have a cable across my room and hallway, and hanging down from the landing to the router, or fitting another ethernet socket upstairs.

A cable connection is objectively better, but is not feasible/possible for everyone. I'm not a selfish person, but for the small amount of time I play online games with a peer to peer connection it's not worth it.

This.

Worst excuse and lazy. Any adult should be able to handle lining a cord. Can be done almost seemlesly, barely noticable. Dont need to ruin wood or walls or anything. It's easy. Just stop being lazy.

[Fell]

Originally posted by tragickingdom:

Originally posted by Fell:

I have 100mb fiber. Fairly common in Sweden.

The issue with WIFI isn't speed, but the fact that it's unstable compared to wired. Packet loss, etc. Cant send and receive data at the same time on WiFi. This is bad when it comes to P2P, for obvious reasons.
This is why everyone (except certain wifi users) agree that wired is the way to go. It's not really an opinion. It just is.

I have 100MB fiber-optic as well. But you live in Sweeden and this is America. we are going to have high response times if we play each other regardless of my connection type.

Where we live is irrelevant. You claimed;
"1 of them is WIFI and I guarantee it is not slow and is probably faster than your LAN"
I pointed out that I have 100mb fiber in response to that.

And, once again, the issue isn't speed. I'll copy/paste my response you even quoted so you might be able to get it this time;
"The issue with WIFI isn't speed, but the fact that it's unstable compared to wired. Packet loss, etc. Cant send and receive data at the same time on WiFi. This is bad when it comes to P2P, for obvious reasons."
This is fact. Not opinion. Wifi is worse than tired for MK11.

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You paid for the game so fair enough you want it to work as well as it possibly can (no online lag/fps drops etc.), however telling someone to uninstall said game due to using wireless means they can't enjoy the game.

[in memoriam of Sharky]

These peoble who think their wifi is perfect because they have "10000000000000000Mbps" connections and can download 8k movies in "3 sec" so that connection must be "superior" for gaming ..... The reality is my 56k modem with 36kb/sec in 1996 had better quality for gaming than this crap wifi tech we have develped for mobile phones...

Your bandwith does not matter 10mbs can do the same as 1000000000000Mbps what matters is the consistency of your latency and not the bandwith since online games probably don't exchage more than a few kilobytes data a sec.

Wifi have crap consitency compared to wires even if you have the most expesive router you can get with the most expesive internet you can get. FACT.

Good old memories when only experts had a PC at home so we did not have to read silly comments from armchair developers on the internet .

PS. Wifi users can decline anyone they want so they should be banner from ranked or should have a different mode. Because this is just dumb than they can cherrypick opponents while wired players can't. Ranked mode is a joke this way.