Lord of the Rings : Return to Moria

[Mick]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VdC7SECMeE

It's because, I just can't really handle looking at even a well drawn but flickering images of Dwarves teleporting from one part of my dungeon/base/fortress to the other in what equates to activity and when they're just standing still in their workshop to make beds and doors.

While switching to the ACSII script characters just hurts the eyes, not that playing Nethack has ever bothered me the same way. I have gotten use to that game atleast.

I would rather have a Dwarf game more like the one shown above...

I think I know what most of you are going to say here as I have read on another discussion thread here that -words to the effect- this game (Dwarf-Fortress) activates your imagination with the simplest of graphics, but I also believe that one of the other ideas of video games is not just graphics that look real, (I would agree that isn't so important either.) but graphics that actually show you what your avatar is doing.

Aside from that, I see your point about more graphically realistic games not having much game-play and depth. The game above may or may not be guilty of this, but it does look interesting...

[Fel]

They made some pretty decent licensed games these years (especially batman and lord of the ring come to mind) but also plenty of cash-grab stuff.
An add showing very little gameplay doesn't say much about how the game will be either but we can always hope it will be at least decent.

[Mick]

Talking about other games....what does everybody think about the other open ended, but graphically superior Kenshi?

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by Mick:

Talking about other games....what does everybody think about the other open ended, but graphically superior Kenshi?

I love the game, but it's likely I love it for reasons that some players hate it...

Mechanically speaking, the game is barely functional and so very limited in what it can actually "do" that I am sure it is surprised, itself, that it can run and produce gameplay.

But, in terms of constructing a setting and giving the player a carefully crafted gameplay "experience," it's top-notch.

It's really a sort of old-school style "adventure" game with quite a bit of walk-simulator thrown in, but then with a huge seamless world and an RTS combat experience... The thing oozes "style" all over the place. That little unidentified puddle of stuff that you found next to your computer case? Yup, that was Kenshi.

There is no other game that I know of that gives the player those mechanics and expressed in gameplay so very well. That's despite the fact that the game is a hodgepodge of open-source engines and absolutely does not do many of the things some gamers might think it does. :)

If anyone knows of a party-based RPG with RTS mechanics in a completely seamless world (No instancing or combat-space transitions)... I'd love to have some links for it.

Oh - And the music is PERFECT for it. It's outstanding.

[Multihog]

Originally posted by Mick:

Talking about other games....what does everybody think about the other open ended, but graphically superior Kenshi?

I think it's great. I love how it's a true sandbox game that doesn't try to shoehorn in some kind of scripted story. It's kinda jank technically but still a great game. The combat is fun and animations look great with all the parries and whatnot.

[Mick]

I understand that Dwarf-Fortress was inspiration for Kenshi.

[Mick]

This is a game i wouldn't mind seeing come to fruit, but a lot of people think this one is a joke that will never happen...

https://store.steampowered.com/app/792610/King_of_the_Dwarves_Underground_City_Builder/

[The Knowledge Seeker]

Originally posted by Morkonan:

If anyone knows of a party-based RPG with RTS mechanics in a completely seamless world (No instancing or combat-space transitions)... I'd love to have some links for it.

Take a look a the game: Songs of Syx I haven't played it yet, but it is worth a store page visit.

I have played Kenshi, but not since they opened up the areas after the fishing village. That game brings me back to the YT video story of the lone ninja with his bonedog. I had fond memories.

[Multihog]

Originally posted by Mick:

I understand that Dwarf-Fortress was inspiration for Kenshi.

I don't see it.

[Mick]

Originally posted by The Knowledge Seeker:

Originally posted by Morkonan:

If anyone knows of a party-based RPG with RTS mechanics in a completely seamless world (No instancing or combat-space transitions)... I'd love to have some links for it.

Take a look a the game: Songs of Syx I haven't played it yet, but it is worth a store page visit.

I have played Kenshi, but not since they opened up the areas after the fishing village. That game brings me back to the YT video story of the lone ninja with his bonedog. I had fond memories.

I like Ambiquous-Amphibians Yout-Tube videos of the Tor-Solo and Torso-Squad. Sick, but cool...

[RadCon One]

Originally posted by Mick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VdC7SECMeE

It's because, I just can't really handle looking at even a well drawn but flickering images of Dwarves teleporting from one part of my dungeon/base/fortress to the other in what equates to activity and when they're just standing still in their workshop to make beds and doors.

While switching to the ACSII script characters just hurts the eyes, not that playing Nethack has ever bothered me the same way. I have gotten use to that game atleast.

I would rather have a Dwarf game more like the one shown above...

I think I know what most of you are going to say here as I have read on another discussion thread here that -words to the effect- this game (Dwarf-Fortress) activates your imagination with the simplest of graphics, but I also believe that one of the other ideas of video games is not just graphics that look real, (I would agree that isn't so important either.) but graphics that actually show you what your avatar is doing.

Aside from that, I see your point about more graphically realistic games not having much game-play and depth. The game above may or may not be guilty of this, but it does look interesting...

Based off the trailer it looks more like a LOTR-themed version of Minecraft, which in itself was inspired by DF, but not entirely the same genre anymore. Minecraft (and Mines of Moria as far as I can tell) seem to focus on the individual, and not on building a town and having them play out their lives.

That's not to say it couldn't be an amazing game, just that you are comparing apples to oranges here.

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by The Knowledge Seeker:

Originally posted by Morkonan:

If anyone knows of a party-based RPG with RTS mechanics in a completely seamless world (No instancing or combat-space transitions)... I'd love to have some links for it.

Take a look a the game: Songs of Syx I haven't played it yet, but it is worth a store page visit.

Yup, already have it and it's great! :)

But, it's a fantasy city-builder/conquest'ish mashup sort of game. It does have some instanced combat bits, as well, for overland battles. (Haven't played the last combat patch.)

I have played Kenshi, but not since they opened up the areas after the fishing village. That game brings me back to the YT video story of the lone ninja with his bonedog. I had fond memories.

One of the funniest short series for Kenshi sort of "machinima" is done by "Koifish" on youtube, IMO. Great production value, tones of memes, great "energy" there. Just a few shorts, though, but worth it. :)

Originally posted by RadCon One:

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That's not to say it couldn't be an amazing game, just that you are comparing apples to oranges here.

The number of movei-IP PC games that have turned out well is... smol. But, that list does include a few from the LotR IP, so there "could be" hope. If it's not done by a known dev/publisher that has a good reputation, I wouldn't even bother glancing at it.

[Mick]

Originally posted by The Knowledge Seeker:

Originally posted by Morkonan:

If anyone knows of a party-based RPG with RTS mechanics in a completely seamless world (No instancing or combat-space transitions)... I'd love to have some links for it.

Take a look a the game: Songs of Syx I haven't played it yet, but it is worth a store page visit.

I have played Kenshi, but not since they opened up the areas after the fishing village. That game brings me back to the YT video story of the lone ninja with his bonedog. I had fond memories.

Looking at Songs of Syx now and downloading the demo. I kinds of wish that Dwarf Fortress might have had graphics like this one. They're not state of the art, but they display better and animate better if you know what I'm thinking...

[The Knowledge Seeker]

Originally posted by Mick:

Looking at Songs of Syx now and downloading the demo. I kinds of wish that Dwarf Fortress might have had graphics like this one. They're not state of the art, but they display better and animate better if you know what I'm thinking...

Well, DF on Steam is just a baby right now. Now that we also have DFHack on steam too and another person to fix bugs... Modders will be throwing so many graphic packs at you in no time

Originally posted by Morkonan:

One of the funniest short series for Kenshi sort of "machinima" is done by "Koifish" on youtube, IMO. Great production value, tones of memes, great "energy" there. Just a few shorts, though, but worth it. :)

I will be visiting the game again and look those up, something tells me that I have already seen them, since I was way more active on YT back then. Not so much anymore.

[Mick]

Originally posted by Morkonan:

Originally posted by The Knowledge Seeker:

Take a look a the game: Songs of Syx I haven't played it yet, but it is worth a store page visit.

Yup, already have it and it's great! :)

But, it's a fantasy city-builder/conquest'ish mashup sort of game. It does have some instanced combat bits, as well, for overland battles. (Haven't played the last combat patch.)

I have played Kenshi, but not since they opened up the areas after the fishing village. That game brings me back to the YT video story of the lone ninja with his bonedog. I had fond memories.

One of the funniest short series for Kenshi sort of "machinima" is done by "Koifish" on youtube, IMO. Great production value, tones of memes, great "energy" there. Just a few shorts, though, but worth it. :)

Originally posted by RadCon One:

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That's not to say it couldn't be an amazing game, just that you are comparing apples to oranges here.

The number of movei-IP PC games that have turned out well is... smol. But, that list does include a few from the LotR IP, so there "could be" hope. If it's not done by a known dev/publisher that has a good reputation, I wouldn't even bother glancing at it.

Be sure to check out Torso-man and torso-squad.

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by Mick:

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Looking at Songs of Syx now and downloading the demo. I kinds of wish that Dwarf Fortress might have had graphics like this one. They're not state of the art, but they display better and animate better if you know what I'm thinking...

It's excellent work. The load the game can take in terms of functions and population is pretty darn neato... The scope is pretty astounding, too, considering it's a full city/survival/builder/conflict/management.. e'rrything game with world conquest and diplomacy, too. It's not quite DF in scale in that regard, but it's reaching for that kind of scale and doing well so far.

Originally posted by Mick:

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Be sure to check out Torso-man and torso-squad.

Battle Brothers? :) (Haven't played it yet, but seen a bit of play. Looks brutal.)