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Lucidess Jan 13, 2023 @ 2:25pm
Screenburn fun!
My monitor is getting temporary/minor screenburn on the bottom of the screen with the buttons. Thanks Dwarf Fortress! This game is fun.
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LucusLoC Jan 13, 2023 @ 2:45pm 
sounds like a monitor problem, not a game problem. Any taskbar/menu/UI element that is static can cause burnin if you monitor is susceptible to that kind of thing. Blaming a single game for the problem is not the solution, getting a monitor that does not suffer burnin is.
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Lucidess Jan 13, 2023 @ 3:05pm 
I have been able to fix screenburn by simply lowering the brightness of a UI element from another game(and literally the only other game i've had it happen), so it's not just the monitor. The game needs brightness settings and my monitor has brightness turned up.
Last edited by Lucidess; Jan 13, 2023 @ 3:06pm
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Baronfuming Jan 13, 2023 @ 3:21pm 
Out of curiosity, what is your monitor model? I want to know which one not to get. :sgwTargetBg:
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Ithnann Jan 14, 2023 @ 8:23am 
Out of curiosity is it an OLED?
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Jetrel Jan 14, 2023 @ 8:26am 
Man.. I thought that was a thing of the past. like with old CRT monitors.
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Ithnann Jan 14, 2023 @ 8:32am 
Originally posted by Jetrel:
Man.. I thought that was a thing of the past. like with old CRT monitors.
I use a tv as a monitor and I purposely avoided an OLED TV because of burn in. They have software on them that suppose to prevent it but it only works sometimes.
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Bystandard Jan 14, 2023 @ 8:42am 
Originally posted by Ithnann:
Originally posted by Jetrel:
Man.. I thought that was a thing of the past. like with old CRT monitors.
I use a tv as a monitor and I purposely avoided an OLED TV because of burn in. They have software on them that suppose to prevent it but it only works sometimes.
I heard plasma does this too!(not a material scientist though)
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Ithnann Jan 14, 2023 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by Bystandard:
Originally posted by Ithnann:
I use a tv as a monitor and I purposely avoided an OLED TV because of burn in. They have software on them that suppose to prevent it but it only works sometimes.
I heard plasma does this too!(not a material scientist though)
From previous experience with a plasma I can tell you it does.
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Premium Jan 14, 2023 @ 2:41pm 
Play in a window and move it every now and then. If you have a monitor prone to burn in then you should get used to doing things like that.
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LucusLoC Jan 14, 2023 @ 8:51pm 
Originally posted by Lucidess:
I have been able to fix screenburn by simply lowering the brightness of a UI element from another game(and literally the only other game i've had it happen), so it's not just the monitor. The game needs brightness settings and my monitor has brightness turned up.

Guess you do not use any productivity software or other non-game applications. Most software uses the default brightness of the OS, with actual brightness controlled on the monitor itself. Only games typically have a software/render brightness setting due to how they process the scene.

But DF does not used the same kind of 3D render pipeline where an independent brightness setting is all that applicable. It is a 2D render of basic sprites. Probably the most appropriate thing to do, if the devs would be expected to do anything at all, is to tone down the "whiteness" of the offending UI elements. But that comes at the cost of contrast and visibility, which is probably why they were made bright in the first place.

And of course if they fix that issue for you then someone else might complain that the UI elements no longer "pop" the way they used to, and that can be an issue for them.

And before you go off on "custom UI skinning" just no, there is too much other work to do before custom UI should even be considered. Maybe after we get to the 1.0 release in another 15 to 20 years.

Your best course of action, other than getting a better monitor, is to turn down the brightness on your monitor. I get that having a game/application with a particularly bright UI element is annoying, but this really is not something that should be solved "in software". It is a hardware issue and should be fixed there (hence the plethora of technologies that do not suffer burn in available on the market nowadays).
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Sminky Jan 15, 2023 @ 3:53am 
What are you using as a monitor? as i thought screen burn only happens with CRT's and Plasmas, and even then it's rare.
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Ithnann Jan 15, 2023 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by Sminky:
What are you using as a monitor? as i thought screen burn only happens with CRT's and Plasmas, and even then it's rare.
Only CRt and Plasma? No, it also happens with OLED.

It's also not rare, depends on what you view on that monitor and how long. If you just play DF for 300 hours you will get screen burn on all 3 types.
Last edited by Ithnann; Jan 15, 2023 @ 9:05am
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Morkonan Jan 15, 2023 @ 10:50am 
Originally posted by Lucidess:
My monitor is getting temporary/minor screenburn on the bottom of the screen with the buttons. Thanks Dwarf Fortress! This game is fun.

There is no such thing as "temporary" screen burn-in. What you're experiencing is a different effect.

hasty-link: "image retention" - https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000149894/preventing-or-removing-image-burn-in-image-retention-or-ghosting-on-my-dell-lcd-tv

Follow your manufacturer's instruction regarding your specific model of TV relative to gaming.
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