Adventure mode > Rimworld New DLC

[PhearedPhantom]

Just wanted to say I am so much more excited for the adventure mode update than I am for the rimworld dlc (they are starting to remind me of paradox but atleast they work with the game)

[PhearedPhantom]

Originally posted by Dester:

Originally posted by BSK:

Adventure mode on the other hand...

One of a kind, a real rolepalying experience with immersive gameplay and low level of restriction. Its truly THE magnum opus of rougelikes (or whatever anal denomination people put it in i could care less for the pedantry). If there was anything resembling frequent (and/or impactful) updates I would happily pay £200 for adventure mode. Easily! And in its current state (well in the video) I would be willing to shell out no less than £70

The problem I found with adventure mode is twice finding steel armor and weapons just lying around in the area where you first start. This seems unbalanced and feels unfair and unbalanced. Yes, I could ignore them... but I shouldn't have to play around flaws in the generated world.
Even outside the starting area... it's extremely easy to acquire steel items. The other aspects of adventure mode are lots of fun.

The reason they were there is because a creature happened to put them there

[PhearedPhantom]

Originally posted by xalienxgamerx:

Originally posted by Scrotus Gropulonum:

Basic Rimworld is empty compared to what you get with DF for a cheaper price, and while DF receives free updates (and even the game itself is free,) Rimworld will continue to have ideas taken from DF packaged as $20 DLCs. Then Ludeon will chortle at fans asking for sales.
At the moment I have about four times more hours on Rimworld than I do Steam DF, but I can't go back to base Rimworld. It's extremely boring and limited by comparison.

What you mean is Rimworld isn't bloated. I love df but the game is just complexity for the sake of complexity.

That makes sense if you think about the type of game it is. Civilization sim

[Drosta]

Originally posted by Scrotus Gropulonum:

Originally posted by Drosta:

I'm more than willing to pay for a product that works. And base game rimworld isn't empty compared to DF. It's fine you prefer it but that's nonsense.

Yeah, not empty compared to DF, but at the same time DF also has too much 'bloat'.
Also, giving your personal opinions and telling others theirs are 'nonsense' while also admonishing people for mixing up their personal biases with factual reality, on the same page, is crazy.

Lol reading comprehension is hard for some people isn't it. Yikes.

It's not a personal opinion that DF is full of bugs and features that don't work. It's a fact. It's also a fact that rimworld, is not full of bugs or features that don't work. You might not like that fact. And you might prefer DF regardless. That's fine. That's an opinion. That's a bias. And totally valid. I don't care. Like what you want. But it IS nonsense to call base rimworld empty because it's factually incorrect. Lol amazing.

[Rethias]

People saying RW is better have 300+ mods to improve their game.

[Fingusa of the East]

Originally posted by Rethias:

People saying RW is better have 300+ mods to improve their game.

This, without mods pawns in RW cannot even eat at the table.

[Lokaror]

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

Originally posted by Rethias:

People saying RW is better have 300+ mods to improve their game.

This, without mods pawns in RW cannot even eat at the table.

Thats false.

[Fingusa of the East]

Originally posted by Lokaror:

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

This, without mods pawns in RW cannot even eat at the table.

Thats false.

Literally happens every time I play the game, mate. You need mods to persuade your pawns to not get "ate without table" negative. And even with the mod half of the time they don't do it. It is literally a meme in the community.

You are a clown.

[Lokaror]

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

Originally posted by Lokaror:

Thats false.

Literally happens every time I play the game, mate. You need mods to persuade your pawns to not get "ate without table" negative. And even with the mod half of the time they don't do it. It is literally a meme in the community.

You are a clown.

Doesn't happen with me. Ate without table is a meme, but i've always been able to get them to use the table. Sorry that you are so upset about this though, i hope your feelings recover soon. Maybe get a warm glass of milk and take a nap if me just pointing out you were wrong enough you had to clarify its a sometimes problem had you lashing out like this.

[Drosta]

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

Originally posted by Lokaror:

Thats false.

Literally happens every time I play the game, mate. You need mods to persuade your pawns to not get "ate without table" negative. And even with the mod half of the time they don't do it. It is literally a meme in the community.

You are a clown.

Then you suck at the game and don't know what you're doing clown.

Tried putting the kitchen near their bedrooms and recreation areas and setting the schedule?

People saying RW is better have 300+ mods to improve their game.

I use like 6 mods and none of them are necessary to make the game playable.

DFHack on the other hand...

[Fingusa of the East]

Originally posted by Lokaror:

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

Literally happens every time I play the game, mate. You need mods to persuade your pawns to not get "ate without table" negative. And even with the mod half of the time they don't do it. It is literally a meme in the community.

You are a clown.

Doesn't happen with me. Ate without table is a meme, but i've always been able to get them to use the table. Sorry that you are so upset about this though, i hope your feelings recover soon. Maybe get a warm glass of milk and take a nap if me just pointing out you were wrong enough you had to clarify its a sometimes problem had you lashing out like this.

Tells me to calm down.
Proceeds to snide like a teen.

Checks out, I guess.

[FugNugt]

Yeah Paradox litteraly propose a subscription because their dlcs are so unaffordable and they're obviously cut content, look at CK3, after a month of release it had a dlc.

Originally posted by Dewit:

Originally posted by LeanivBirb:

base game + dlcs cost around 90€

Your point being? They're not like Paradox by a long shot lol

[FugNugt]

Originally posted by PhearedPhantom:

Originally posted by vitokin:

edit: I know i typed childs and not children, suck it up grammar nazis! English language sucks anyways...

Minecraft is for autistic children. You are too simple to play such a complex game so you stick to an easy way of playing where you run around throwing ur sword at random animals

No need to be so arrogant to picture your view by the way, no one will listen to you.

[Lord Knorrx]

Originally posted by PhearedPhantom:

Originally posted by vitokin:

edit: I know i typed childs and not children, suck it up grammar nazis! English language sucks anyways...

Minecraft is for autistic children. You are too simple to play such a complex game so you stick to an easy way of playing where you run around throwing ur sword at random animals

Nah Minecraft is for people who like to build complex things in a complex world. Not sure why you feel the need to throw around baseless insults like that.

[Scrotus Gropulonum]

Originally posted by Drosta:

Lol reading comprehension is hard for some people isn't it. Yikes.

It really is, isn't it? I don't know why you're bringing up DF bugs when it hasn't got a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing to do with anything I said. I think you're mixing your responses up while arguing yourself into a corner.

Originally posted by Drosta:

And base game rimworld isn't empty compared to DF.

it IS nonsense to call base rimworld empty because it's factually incorrect.

Nah. Even the most basic things in DF like food variety, coming from all sorts of different animal and monster types, plants and trees just completely blow RW out of the water, no contest.
The DF wiki has 200-300 animal pages and it isn't exhaustive. In other words, I'm not going to get rabid squirrels attacking en masse every week, but a little bit of variety instead. If I choose to have items crafted, I have an extreme amount of choices available. If I want to build a multi-level home/castle/work of art or an ingenius trap to deal with invaders, I have that option! I don't have to make a gun hallway covered in deadfall traps every single time. That's part of what I was getting at when I posted that base RW is empty, boring, and limited compared to what you get with DF - It demonstrably is.

Originally posted by Drosta:

There's a difference between personal preference bias and factual reality.

I don't think you've figured out what that difference is. All you've done in this thread is ♥♥♥♥ fling and make poor arguments in reddit-tier tonage. "Yikes".

[Drosta]

Nah. Even the most basic things in DF like food variety, coming from all sorts of different animal and monster types, plants and trees just completely blow RW out of the water, no contest.
The DF wiki has 200-300 animal pages and it isn't exhaustive.

Yeah. That's what we call "bloat"
Try to keep up.

Adding 300+ pages worth of different types of meat. While not bothering to make it so animals like pigs and chickens actually need to, you know, eat.

But yeah, DF > rimworld because rEaSons

Lol. This guy.

If I want to build a multi-level home/castle/work of art or an ingenius trap to deal with invaders, I have that option! I don't have to make a gun hallway covered in deadfall traps every single time.

Yeah and in DF all I have to do is build a base one level up from a trap door to be safe from all enemies literally forever. because the enemies literally can't attack upwards of their Z level. OooOoo. Such deep complexity and variety of base design. OooOOoo lol.

This is what I mean, by the game could be excellent if they took the time to make the existing systems work. But they don't. They choose to add more bloat.

"Blows rimworld out of the water indeed"

You're going to have a hard time winning this argument with me my guy. I've actually played both games and I'm being honest about where they both are in their current states. DF could be a great game, and I'd even argue subjectively I'd consider "what it could be" to be the better game. but I'm not blinded by what it could be. I'm judging it based on what it is.

A bug riddled mess with barely functioning placeholders for what the systems should be someday if they ever bother to fix and polish them.

Edit--

I want to add an edit here to make it clear I don't hate DF. And I don't care what you or anyone else chooses to enjoy. I'm just not going to sit silently while people make ridiculous and baseless claims in support of it against something else if those claims are nonsense. I wanted to like DF. I really did. And it does have elements that I like. I can see it's potential. And some of what's available i do like. But it desperately needs polishing and we're well beyond the point where I'm willing to look past its multitude of problems because "small team"

That excuse was fine two years ago but this game can be called a middling commercial success at this point by any reasonable standard having sold nearly a million copies it's first year. I don't think it's at all unfair at this point to hold its development to a higher standard.