Dwarf Fortress

Dwarf Fortress

Crom Feb 8, 2023 @ 6:41pm
Similar game like this?
Are there other similar games like this one, but with real engine and real graphic?

I totaly love the concept. But beside the concept, everything is wrong with Dwarven Fortress.
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Ancamarth Feb 9, 2023 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by Northern Ronin:
Rimworld, Oxygen Not Included, Banished and Frostpunk are where I'd start your search into, crossing the gamut between hard core sim like Dwarf Fortress to hostile city builders.

...and Kenshi, and ACS, and, and...

And all of those games eventually led me to this game.

When soft drugs aren't enough, we switch to hard drugs, right?
DF seems at the same time more frustrating to handle, immensely deeper, a bit more buggy and ugly, we're not going to lie to each other, huh, but... in the end, when everything else will leave you hungry, and you want to dig deeper (literally) into these kinds of games, you will come here, sooner or later.

Such is the way.
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Cube Feb 9, 2023 @ 8:59am 
You could try Songs of Syx, its a pretty awesome game imo!
captainamaziiing Feb 9, 2023 @ 9:25am 
I advise patience. The success of the Steam release has proven the concept will sell. I promise there are a dozen or more Dev houses looking at the payday DF just pulled in and thinking about taking the concept, cutting out the jank, building a robust UI, and leaving DF in the dust. Meanwhile, the Adams brothers seem pretty sharp. They may realize this and will be doing a hard course correction. But right now their roadmap has almost zero discussion on doing so, and the addition of Putnam isn't going to be enough to stay ahead of the 20 person team, working straight from Unity, in 3-D, with a tested concept.

'Martian Miner' is coming. Or Doug the Digger. Or Mother Loder, or all three. Until then, DF stands alone. Like they used to say about the Grateful Dead. 'They are not the best at what they do, but they are the only ones who do what they do.'
The Trashman Feb 9, 2023 @ 9:33am 
Originally posted by captainamaziiing:
I promise there are a dozen or more Dev houses looking at the payday DF just pulled in and thinking about taking the concept, cutting out the jank, building a robust UI, and leaving DF in the dust.
People have been doing this for a decade already. Rimworld is a prime example, but see also Gnomoria. There are even more games that were inspired by DF while doing something different like Minecraft.

I'd love more games in this genre, as long as they do something different or better. It won't hurt this game so the more the merrier, I reckon
Ancamarth Feb 9, 2023 @ 10:22am 
Originally posted by Thijscube:
You could try Songs of Syx, its a pretty awesome game imo!

I didn't mention it, although I play it from time to time. But, the project is still very very raw.
In comparison, DF is a very, very well-polished jewel
Morkonan Feb 9, 2023 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by Crom:
Are there other similar games like this one, but with real engine and real graphic?

I totaly love the concept. But beside the concept, everything is wrong with Dwarven Fortress.

There's not many games like this at this game's scale and certainly not with its breadth or depth. And, none with its particular flavor of evolved play. So... "no." :)

This game has a "real" engine and graphics. The UI is borked, but at least it has one now... We can hope for UI improvements and a lot of bugsquashing to come.

What gameplay do you really like? What do you feel is mandatory for an alternate title suggestion?

Note: Stonehearth with the community patch/fix/whatsits is a game that incorporates a lot of applicable game mechanics. Keep in mind any suggestion really has to include some in-depth pawn/dorf/whatsits rpg and morale systems as well as interaction mechanics, which is a big problem that limits recommendations to "DF-Like" games. There's still depth/breadth/scale problem, too. For instance, Space Colony has character/unit social interactions and mood/morale, but it's an ancient game. (Respected, but old, like me. :)) Rimworld is a good game, but it's really "its own thing." That applies to ONI, too. I saw Songs of Syx represented and it's a good choice for a larger-scale, "epic," colony builder with some 4x elements, but individual units aren't going to have a lot of focus. (It's a good game, one-man project, but amazing in what it can simulate at its scale.) There are some new colony builders in EA atm, but the "good ones" are more like "Banished" successors than DF games.
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jozef.sova Feb 9, 2023 @ 10:58am 
I might try kenshi, it's sandbox as well.
Morkonan Feb 9, 2023 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by jozef.sova:
I might try kenshi, it's sandbox as well.

It has no meaningful character-to-character interactions and no morale/mood mechanics. Characters only have the bare minimum in terms of independent behavior sets. (Operate/store thing, combat, rescue, eat...)

It's a great party-based real-time combat RPG game, though. Base-building is sort of "tacked on" but it does have it's own light focus in terms of mechanics.
Lepidus Stupidius Feb 9, 2023 @ 11:56am 
Kenshi is an AMAZING RPG, but the base building is more of a side mechanic
BgDaddyDevil Feb 9, 2023 @ 12:37pm 
Well if we're going that route, I've been hearing good things about this game--and when my broke ass can come off $20, I'ma get it.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/333640/Caves_of_Qud/
76561188078797539 Feb 9, 2023 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by DevilsGotAnRPG:
I've been hearing good things about this game
Caves is solid. Roguelike, though, it's "DF Adventure mode" with preset settings, rather than a colony sim.

If that's what you're looking for, check out Catacylsm: Dark Days Ahead[cataclysmdda.org]. Open-source community project, so freeware. Major fun in the same roguelike way.

DF has its megaprojects, CDDA has its mobile murderhome construction.

"Cruising in my landcrusher through zombie hordes, looking for [redacted] to burn" is pretty much how I'd summarize my usual end game (not that there aren't many other things to do, it's just how I usually end up).

Getting to that point, though, is hella fun.
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Morkonan Feb 9, 2023 @ 1:08pm 
Originally posted by Sheepify:
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"Cruising in my landcrusher through zombie hordes, looking for [redacted] to burn" is pretty much how I'd summarize my usual end game (not that there aren't many other things to do, it's just how I usually end up).

Getting to that point, though, is hella fun.

CDDA would certainly be in my playlist, but I just can't stand "zombie games." I just... don't? Why's it always gotta be zombies? :/

Unreal World seems like more of a fit with DF's play. (Though, both CDDA and CoQud (Edit: Steam doesn't like that abbreviation...) are top-notch games.)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/351700/UnReal_World/

There's a free version, but since this is the "PC Game that has the longest continuous development period in World History," I think the dev deserves a couple of bucks.

I can say with confidence that everything in this bundle is worth playing/owning:

https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/15790/The_Traditional_Roguelikes_Bundle/?snr=1_5_9__403
Last edited by Morkonan; Feb 9, 2023 @ 1:09pm
Originally posted by Morkonan:
CDDA would certainly be in my playlist, but I just can't stand "zombie games." I just... don't? Why's it always gotta be zombies? :/
It also comes with highly aggressive giant carps[cddawiki.chezzo.com] :)

You're missing out big time.
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craneology Feb 9, 2023 @ 2:14pm 
Dwarf Fortress clones exist. Your intellect may be low enough to enjoy them.
57th|Flinx Feb 9, 2023 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by craneology:
Dwarf Fortress clones exist. Your intellect may be low enough to enjoy them.
We have a professor here.....wait, most intellectuals are aware of differences in education and taste and do not judge. Maybe just a troll after all.
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