Dwarf Fortress

Dwarf Fortress

McOrigin Feb 8, 2023 @ 1:35am
Game never fails to surprise: my minotaur escaped his arena.
I had caught a minotaur and used him in an arena to dispose stripped raiders and troglodytes very effectively.
But all of the sudden, two childs are found dead. Combat log shows it was the same minotaur.

I have no idea how he could escape all the sudden when he was kept safelely for years and kill about 100 creatures pitted to him.

Screenshots of the setup: https://imgur.com/a/85qDQlP
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[MadTs] Phyrys Feb 8, 2023 @ 5:09am 
If your walls are made of boulders, he probably gained some points in climbing by accidently dodging near said walls and figured out he can just climb out of your pit.
McOrigin Feb 8, 2023 @ 5:54am 
Wall are made of blocks and should be unclimbable. With addition to the overhang to the hatch covers, I though this was safe. Either he could climb up and jump to the hatch cover ledge, or he could jump of the full distance.

I loaded up an older save and he did not reproduce his escape, kind of unfortunately.
Terminal Feb 8, 2023 @ 8:03am 
Overhangs do not prevent climbers from moving in any direction except for up. The Minotaur climbed up to the overhang, and then Diagonally up through your unlocked hatch.

Although Rock Block Walls are REPUTEDLY supposed to impossible to climb, this is not the only report of similar things happening - and after all, siegers can ALSO climb rock block walls.

Either the Minotaur climbed or through some combat chicanery it got blasted up to the ceiling.

The simple solution to this would have been to build the arena bigger and ensure there was more than one tile between the edge and the hatches.
Dain_Ironfoot Feb 8, 2023 @ 9:03am 
Made a ladder out of bones and sinew? :cozybrawlhalla7:
Did you consider saying "Clever girl" and hiding in the kitchen?
Deggo Feb 8, 2023 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Terminal:

Although Rock Block Walls are REPUTEDLY supposed to impossible to climb, this is not the only report of similar things happening - and after all, siegers can ALSO climb rock block walls.

I have never read this. Constructed walls were always climbable. Smooth walls weren't, which makes sense if you think about it (https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Smoothing). There's also a difference between whether the wall was constructed with blocks or rough stones, as the latter is allegedly easier to climb.

I guess this needs some arena testing.
Last edited by Deggo; Feb 8, 2023 @ 9:36am
Andi Feb 8, 2023 @ 10:02am 
I just wanted to say that there's a bug that allows combatants to "tunnel" through walls, but it seems that one has been fixed already before the Steam release:
https://dwarffortress.mantishub.io/view.php?id=7444
Helios Feb 8, 2023 @ 11:16am 
Originally posted by McOrigin:
Wall are made of blocks and should be unclimbable. With addition to the overhang to the hatch covers, I though this was safe. Either he could climb up and jump to the hatch cover ledge, or he could jump of the full distance.

I loaded up an older save and he did not reproduce his escape, kind of unfortunately.
did you know dorfs can dump an enemy into a locked hatch? so you can have it locked all time just try it .
McOrigin Feb 8, 2023 @ 7:05pm 
Oh, thanks for the info with lockes hatches!

Sadly my minotaur died of depression.
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