Dwarf Fortress

Dwarf Fortress

Sophtopus Feb 3, 2023 @ 9:03am
How do I save horn and hoof while throwing away nervous tissue?
I noticed that they're apparently under the same category as misc trash instead of bone.
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AlP Feb 3, 2023 @ 9:36am 
Set up a refuse stockpile with horn/hoof allowed?
=M$= Oroberus Feb 3, 2023 @ 11:00am 
Solution: Very specific custom stockpile management
harlequin_corps Feb 3, 2023 @ 3:23pm 
Horns and hoofs are a seperate category than remains in a stockpile. Also, check your Standing Orders for refuse and dumping. There will be a setting for Save/Dump horn/hoofs/bones/skulls etc.
Sophtopus Feb 4, 2023 @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by harlequin_corps:
Horns and hoofs are a seperate category than remains in a stockpile. Also, check your Standing Orders for refuse and dumping. There will be a setting for Save/Dump horn/hoofs/bones/skulls etc.

I have set my stockpile to receive horns and hooves. Despite that, the results still went straight into the trash pile.

There are no standing orders for horns and hooves. Skulls, bones, skins, shells, hair and wool are the only options.
Cheet4h Feb 4, 2023 @ 7:38am 
Originally posted by Sophtopus:
Originally posted by harlequin_corps:
Horns and hoofs are a seperate category than remains in a stockpile. Also, check your Standing Orders for refuse and dumping. There will be a setting for Save/Dump horn/hoofs/bones/skulls etc.

I have set my stockpile to receive horns and hooves. Despite that, the results still went straight into the trash pile.

There are no standing orders for horns and hooves. Skulls, bones, skins, shells, hair and wool are the only options.

Did you remove the setting for horns and hooves from the trash pile?

If yes, try setting up your horn/hooves-stockpile to take from the trash pile
Last edited by Cheet4h; Feb 4, 2023 @ 7:39am
Originally posted by Sophtopus:
I have set my stockpile to receive horns and hooves. Despite that, the results still went straight into the trash pile.
Did you select them for dumping? Otherwise shouldn't be happening, unless the stockpile is too far away for UristMcLazybones to bother going over there.

4x4 embark is a step-up from the classic's 3x3 default, and even that was already causing some issues with workflow due to distance. I noticed my miners occasionally take a dirt nap when doing work on outer edges of the embark, even when the stairs to the bedrooms are smack down in the middle of the map.

Edit: Ninja'd by Cheet4h - having refuse pile also accepting the same could override stockpile settings, I suppose, if the game looks for "best match" in terms of item type and "trash" tag.
Last edited by 76561188078797539; Feb 4, 2023 @ 7:42am
Sophtopus Feb 4, 2023 @ 7:41am 
Originally posted by Cheet4h:
Originally posted by Sophtopus:

I have set my stockpile to receive horns and hooves. Despite that, the results still went straight into the trash pile.

There are no standing orders for horns and hooves. Skulls, bones, skins, shells, hair and wool are the only options.

Did you remove the setting for horns and hooves from the trash pile?

If yes, try setting up your horn/hooves-stockpile to take from the trash pile

The trash pile is the game’s dumo zone. I don't think that has any settings
Originally posted by Sophtopus:
The trash pile is the game’s dumo zone. I don't think that has any settings
Yeah, defo shouldn't be happening unless you specifically marked it as trash.
Cheet4h Feb 4, 2023 @ 7:53am 
Originally posted by Sophtopus:
Originally posted by Cheet4h:

Did you remove the setting for horns and hooves from the trash pile?

If yes, try setting up your horn/hooves-stockpile to take from the trash pile

The trash pile is the game’s dumo zone. I don't think that has any settings

Is it? Last I checked that's called "garbage dump", and horns/hooves etc. shouldn't be put there automatically unless you set up the standing order to "dump <x>" - although I haven't ever used that, so I don't know if it's actually marked as "dump item".

To be fair, the stockpile containing horns/hooves is called "refuse stockpile", so it's also not clear if OP meant that. Since they wrote "trash pile" I assumed they set up a stockpile for refuse somewhere.
AlP Feb 4, 2023 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by Sophtopus:
Originally posted by Cheet4h:

Did you remove the setting for horns and hooves from the trash pile?

If yes, try setting up your horn/hooves-stockpile to take from the trash pile

The trash pile is the game’s dumo zone. I don't think that has any settings
You need to use standard nomenclature if you are looking for help. There is no "trash pile" in the game.

If your dwarves are moving horns and hooves into a garbage dump zone, it's because you marked the items for dumping. If you have a refuse stockpile that accepts horn/hoof items, the dwarves will automatically move such items there (assuming you set it up correctly).
Sophtopus Feb 4, 2023 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by AlP:
You need to use standard nomenclature if you are looking for help. There is no "trash pile" in the game.

Sigh if you really want to be particular about nomenclature, take it up against all the video tutorials who didn't have a consistent name. I've heard ‘trash pile’, ‘garbage dump’, trash zone, garbage zone, corpse pile, and all other permutations used interchangeably. It confused me when I started the game, and also left me with mistaken names.

To clarify:
I have a stockpile to accept hooves, skulls, bones, wool, shells, and horns.

The stockpile only accepted bones, wool, skulls, and shells despite being set to accept horns and hooves.

My standing order is "dump all other objects". Every other standing orders on that page is "save"
Sophtopus Feb 4, 2023 @ 8:54am 
https://imgur.com/a/SDwri0Q

Pictures for further clarification
AlP Feb 4, 2023 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by Sophtopus:
Originally posted by AlP:
You need to use standard nomenclature if you are looking for help. There is no "trash pile" in the game.

Sigh if you really want to be particular about nomenclature, take it up against all the video tutorials who didn't have a consistent name. I've heard ‘trash pile’, ‘garbage dump’, trash zone, garbage zone, corpse pile, and all other permutations used interchangeably. It confused me when I started the game, and also left me with mistaken names.

To clarify:
I have a stockpile to accept hooves, skulls, bones, wool, shells, and horns.

The stockpile only accepted bones, wool, skulls, and shells despite being set to accept horns and hooves.

My standing order is "dump all other objects". Every other standing orders on that page is "save"
You need to use the game's actual names, because otherwise it can be impossible to tell what you are talking about. Those youtubers need to get a clue that this game is complicated enough as it is.

I happen to be getting rid of my horn/hoof items by turning them into crafts right now, and here is my refuse stockpile for them:

https://i.imgur.com/mD0OKCS.png

And my standing orders:

https://i.imgur.com/i2gEZki.png
Cheet4h Feb 4, 2023 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by Sophtopus:
https://imgur.com/a/SDwri0Q

Pictures for further clarification


Horns and hooves aren't included in the "save <x>" lists, so they're likely lumped into the "other objects" category.

I'd suggest creating a stockpile set to accept the refuse categories "item types", "body parts" and "teeth" where you want your refuse put, and set the standing order to "save other objects".
Although if you want to use hooves etc. for crafting, you should probably store teeth there, too, since it can also be used as a crafting material.
AlP Feb 4, 2023 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by Cheet4h:
Originally posted by Sophtopus:
https://imgur.com/a/SDwri0Q

Pictures for further clarification


Horns and hooves aren't included in the "save <x>" lists, so they're likely lumped into the "other objects" category.
They are not. New stockpile, with "dump other objects" disabled. Horn/hoof are placed into it, and nobody dumps the unstockpiled hoof:

https://i.imgur.com/uRP7y5b.png
Last edited by AlP; Feb 4, 2023 @ 9:11am
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