Do Elves accept prepared meals if they have meat in them?

[Sophtopus]

I'm not sure if they would accept my roasts because it's not vegan. I know they definitely don't accept my bone crafts.

[Baalthoros]

They will not accept any food, it is all from either plants or animals that have been killed. Basically they will trade stone, metal, and glass.

[Reim]

They don't actually accept glass tho.

[Baalthoros]

I forgot to clarify. specifically green glass. Clear and crystal glass are not accepted because of the dead tree used for the ash.
At this point I'm surprised they don't first check to make sure the metal was smelted in a magma forge first before buying it. Like they routinely eat sentient beings, but we can't eat plants and animals because blah blah blah.

[kheftel]

They will accept glass made at a magma furnace.

[Baalthoros]

Only green glass, and from any furnace. Just like metal. the other glass types use dead trees as an ingredient.

[Itharus]

...you... you want to be friends... with the elves?

But... why?

[Itharus]

Originally posted by Baalthoros:

I forgot to clarify. specifically green glass. Clear and crystal glass are not accepted because of the dead tree used for the ash.
At this point I'm surprised they don't first check to make sure the metal was smelted in a magma forge first before buying it. Like they routinely eat sentient beings, but we can't eat plants and animals because blah blah blah.

wait... what sentient beings do elves eat?

[jlaflair]

Once you start diplomacy with the elves and you're getting along, they develop some grudging tolerance toward cutting down and using tree stuff. The diplomat during their trade visit will say that he'll try and return the next year, and between now and then, they'll permit you to cut down X number of trees without their getting ticked off.

Whether they impacts the ash used in some non-green glass being acceptable to them, I don't know.

[Baalthoros]

They still will not accept any items in trade that come from the death of plants or animals. That just means they wont declare war on you.

[jlaflair]

Originally posted by Itharus:

Originally posted by Baalthoros:

I forgot to clarify. specifically green glass. Clear and crystal glass are not accepted because of the dead tree used for the ash.
At this point I'm surprised they don't first check to make sure the metal was smelted in a magma forge first before buying it. Like they routinely eat sentient beings, but we can't eat plants and animals because blah blah blah.

wait... what sentient beings do elves eat?

Lorewise, in the game's code tags, they're carnivores. If they kill another sapient being in combat, they can eat it. I don't think anything actually enforces it, though. It does show up in worldgen history when an elf kills someone in combat and feasts!

I would imagine they can also eat fruit and other things which fall from trees, considering they always live in areas with them. That's not harming the tree, after all!

[Baalthoros]

Originally posted by Itharus:

Originally posted by Baalthoros:

I forgot to clarify. specifically green glass. Clear and crystal glass are not accepted because of the dead tree used for the ash.
At this point I'm surprised they don't first check to make sure the metal was smelted in a magma forge first before buying it. Like they routinely eat sentient beings, but we can't eat plants and animals because blah blah blah.

wait... what sentient beings do elves eat?

They will eat defeated foes. So they will get angry at you for trying to trade them leather because a poor animal had to suffer, declare war and invade, and then eat your cousin while staring you down.
Not really, but in legends they do eat defeated foes, including intelligent beings.

[Baalthoros]

Originally posted by jlaflair:

I would imagine they can also eat fruit and other things which fall from trees, considering they always live in areas with them. That's not harming the tree, after all!

Nah, they are like vegans but worse. Basically if you eat the fruit you are killing a potential plant that could have grown, or benefiting from the suffering of the pant. Like how vegans wont eat honey or drink milk.

[nazerick]

As I thought, Elves are no good. I can't trust anyone that doesn't eat meat or plants.. and what do they even drink? Water? How barbaric

[jlaflair]

Originally posted by Baalthoros:

Originally posted by jlaflair:

I would imagine they can also eat fruit and other things which fall from trees, considering they always live in areas with them. That's not harming the tree, after all!

Nah, they are like vegans but worse. Basically if you eat the fruit you are killing a potential plant that could have grown, or benefiting from the suffering of the pant. Like how vegans wont eat honey or drink milk.

It'd be a fine question to answer someday, then. It's definitely in the code that they will eat the corpses of sapients they've defeated in combat, and it happens during worldgen. But, elves are immortal in DF, so they can't really go on killing and devouring people for all eternity and still have a society. :)

I'd imagine there's some loophole somewhere. Or, they just have their own sekrit food. :) Elves in classic adventurer mode aren't bound by this and can nab edibles from barns and storage spots to eat, nobody seems to mind them taking those.

[Erei]

In classic they only refused wood and wood related product (like some glass).
In Steam version, they refuse the same + anything made from animal (leather, meat). But also wool (for some reason ?), but not silk (don't ask).

Also, note that if someone decorate an item with wood or leather it will be a nono for elves to.