Dwarf Fortress

Dwarf Fortress

Mr.Black Jan 21, 2023 @ 11:03am
I am not getting elevated past Mayor...
I don't have a King/Queen nor have i been risen to a barony, i am breaching 100k in exported wealthy, i got riches up to my ears!

When the outpost liason asked if i want to incorporate my holdings i said yes, what can i check or do to make sure i get elevated to barony? It's probably my 8th year in game and i still only get mule trains... (have developed roads to the map exits).

What should I check?
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Mr.Black Jan 21, 2023 @ 11:04am 
The liason is like "You continue to impress I am elevating you!" but still nothing...
DoubleG Jan 21, 2023 @ 11:15am 
Did it give you the option to elevate one of your dwarfs? You need to choose a baron and then you are officially a barony.

Might be a bug. There is some jankyness with baronies. If your baron dies sometimes it breaks things. If you exited the selection screen before choosing one then perhaps it bugged out.
Mr.Black Jan 21, 2023 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by DoubleG:
Did it give you the option to elevate one of your dwarfs? You need to choose a baron and then you are officially a barony.

Might be a bug. There is some jankyness with baronies. If your baron dies sometimes it breaks things. If you exited the selection screen before choosing one then perhaps it bugged out.

never got the option to get a baron, i dont even have a king or queen yet either
Helios Jan 21, 2023 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Mr.Black:
I don't have a King/Queen nor have i been risen to a barony, i am breaching 100k in exported wealthy, i got riches up to my ears!

When the outpost liason asked if i want to incorporate my holdings i said yes, what can i check or do to make sure i get elevated to barony? It's probably my 8th year in game and i still only get mule trains... (have developed roads to the map exits).

What should I check?
in my case baron was the first title and you need to give the title to one of your dwarves in my case i choose the mayor too to save rooms .
Mr.Black Jan 21, 2023 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by Helios:
Originally posted by Mr.Black:
I don't have a King/Queen nor have i been risen to a barony, i am breaching 100k in exported wealthy, i got riches up to my ears!

When the outpost liason asked if i want to incorporate my holdings i said yes, what can i check or do to make sure i get elevated to barony? It's probably my 8th year in game and i still only get mule trains... (have developed roads to the map exits).

What should I check?
in my case baron was the first title and you need to give the title to one of your dwarves in my case i choose the mayor too to save rooms .

yeah i have no option to make a baron yet, i still get the outpost liason telling me i continue to impress but thats it. stuck at mayor level which means no big caravans
DoubleG Jan 21, 2023 @ 11:30am 
Next time the caravans come perhaps if you offer them a bribe? Choose a load of good you manufactured in your fortress and offer it as a gift. That impresses even more and is one of the triggers for being offered a barony. (only one though, you should still get a barony without doing this, if you trade enough)
Mr.Black Jan 21, 2023 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by DoubleG:
Next time the caravans come perhaps if you offer them a bribe? Choose a load of good you manufactured in your fortress and offer it as a gift. That impresses even more and is one of the triggers for being offered a barony. (only one though, you should still get a barony without doing this, if you trade enough)

yes i sent them a 20k bribe my exports are approaching 100k
Entrappedmind Jan 21, 2023 @ 12:52pm 
As an aside, as I haven't seen it mentioned yet, isn't the mayor role strictly population-based, and entirely separate from the "royalty" roles? That was my understanding, anyway, but I could be mistaken - as I often am!
DoubleG Jan 21, 2023 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by Entrappedmind:
As an aside, as I haven't seen it mentioned yet, isn't the mayor role strictly population-based, and entirely separate from the "royalty" roles? That was my understanding, anyway, but I could be mistaken - as I often am!
When your fort reaches a certain pop size you get a mayor, captain of the guard and lose the expedition leader and Sherriff.

I have had a expedition leader promoted to Baron, in this version, so the barony is not dependant on pop.
kheftel Jan 21, 2023 @ 1:12pm 
It's influenced by holdings, and your civ needs enough population, see requirements at the end:

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Baron
Entrappedmind Jan 21, 2023 @ 1:37pm 
Appreciate the further explaination, DoubleG and kheftel. I had never bothered to read up on it, so I was just going off what I'd run across in my playthroughs.
Mr.Black Jan 21, 2023 @ 1:44pm 
Originally posted by kheftel:
It's influenced by holdings, and your civ needs enough population, see requirements at the end:

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Baron

how many holdings do i need to get to baron then? 9?
DoubleG Jan 21, 2023 @ 2:27pm 
Requirements (v0.44.11+)
Nobility status is entirely based on the number of off-site holdings[Verify], currently 1 (Baron), 4 (Count), 9 (Duke), (and 9+n*2 for modded higher ranks). The land holder trigger numbers now influence the rate at which your civilization will send out settlers to found new sites near your fortress. If your fortress is inaccessible or your civ's population is really low, they won't be able to do it.[1]
Mr.Black Jan 21, 2023 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by DoubleG:
Requirements (v0.44.11+)
Nobility status is entirely based on the number of off-site holdings[Verify], currently 1 (Baron), 4 (Count), 9 (Duke), (and 9+n*2 for modded higher ranks). The land holder trigger numbers now influence the rate at which your civilization will send out settlers to found new sites near your fortress. If your fortress is inaccessible or your civ's population is really low, they won't be able to do it.[1]

So I only need 1 holding to become a baron? I have like 4 or 3
DoubleG Jan 21, 2023 @ 2:59pm 
check that. If you do have holdings then, like i said earlier, probably a bug. Some flag must have been missed or something when you were first offered it. You should be a barony.

Line should be "You continue to impress I am elevating you!" Then they ask you to choose one citizen for the honour of elevation.
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