Successful Inn, No Visitors!

[jlaflair]

So, I played DF Classic for the better part of my life and I'm generally loving the Steam version. Just the ability to point and click for certain stuff, and to have a clear UI, is fantastic!

I'm having an oddity issue which could just be down to my not remembering things correctly, though. I already had a dining hall and a temple for my dwarves, so I decided to make an inn with hopes of drawing in some visitors from other races who might petition. I just find it fun having all sorts of people in my fort.

The inn has been a hit success ... with my own dwarves. They've forgotten the dining hall even exists!

Unfortunately, while it meets all of its requirements and I did build three adjacent bedrooms, door'd off and with unclaimed beds, the inn has drawn exactly zero visitors. However, I've included the bedrooms for guests in the inn/tavern zone. I wonder if that was my mistake or something else?

Thanks, all!

[MadAsgardian]

Is the tavern zone itself set to allow visitors? There are three icons to specify who can use. You also need to associate each bedroom with the tavern meeting zone using the bedroom’s + icon.

Even then, it took time for mine to fill up.

You also need a mayor with office and chair to allow visitors, IIRC.

[jlaflair]

Originally posted by MadAsgardian:

Is the tavern zone itself set to allow visitors? There are three icons to specify who can use. You also need to associate each bedroom with the tavern meeting zone using the bedroom’s + icon.

Even then, it took time for mine to fill up.

You also need a mayor with office and chair to allow visitors, IIRC.

The inn/tavern zone is set to be usable by anyone. My dwarves all go there to hang out, though, with a stray few using the dining hall or temples. :) It actually makes me want an actual "Visitors Only" setting so that my citizens will use all of the places I've built for them and leave the inns to guests. Or, maybe "Guests Only" so that the tavern keeper and performers can still hang out.

My fort isn't very large yet, but I do have the expedition leader set up with a proper office, as well. So, I'm not sure what the issue is, unless my fortress just isn't interesting enough to visit yet! That's all I can think of. The expedition leader can receive petitions, because he got one to build a temple. However, I've kept an eye on the inn and it's packed wall to wall with dwarves from my fort. I don't think I've *ever* had a visitor, which is strange when I do have neighbors.

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Kinda Related Side Question: Speaking of temples. I received a petition to build a temple for a particular faith, I said sure, and then I promptly forgot what deity/religion the petitioners were. Having trouble finding a record of this in the UI. Also, can you dedicate to a specific deity?

I set up my first temple as being "dedicated" when I installed a statue of the deity, which for some reason ends up being a person other than the god and they keep the statue covered. Ah, Dwarf Fortress and its oddities, I love them

[nazerick]

Well I'm pretty new but from what I can tell some kind of conflict happens if two zones overlap a floor tile. After I redrew my inn and dormitory separately I suddenly received a few petitions for entertainers to join.

[jlaflair]

Originally posted by nazerick:

Well I'm pretty new but from what I can tell some kind of conflict happens if two zones overlap a floor tile. After I got redrew my inn and dormitory separately I suddenly received a few petitions for entertainers to join.

Right now, there's no overlap. I have the entire inn, both the tavern part and the guest rooms, all as one zone. I contemplated trying to add secondary zones for the guest rooms, or a separate tavern zone each, but I just don't remember needing to do that. It's just weird!

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by jlaflair:

Originally posted by nazerick:

Well I'm pretty new but from what I can tell some kind of conflict happens if two zones overlap a floor tile. After I got redrew my inn and dormitory separately I suddenly received a few petitions for entertainers to join.

Right now, there's no overlap. I have the entire inn, both the tavern part and the guest rooms, all as one zone. I contemplated trying to add secondary zones for the guest rooms, or a separate tavern zone each, but I just don't remember needing to do that. It's just weird!

If you're still with an "Expedition Leader" you have't gotten enough notoriety and Fortress rank. They should start flooding in at Baron. (County)

(Though, I've gotten a few much earlier than that, but don't expect to.)

[nazerick]

Originally posted by jlaflair:

Right now, there's no overlap. I have the entire inn, both the tavern part and the guest rooms, all as one zone. I contemplated trying to add secondary zones for the guest rooms, or a separate tavern zone each, but I just don't remember needing to do that. It's just weird!

My inn and dorm for my inn are separate zones all together. They are just physically attached. I have a little over 100 dwarfs and have gotten maybe 5 or so people to join. Several others have been visiting.. Maybe it's your location on the map? Your not in the middle of nowhere right?

[Apatheos]

Have you breached a cavern? Monster hunters start visiting pretty soon after you do.

[MadAsgardian]

Originally posted by jlaflair:

Kinda Related Side Question: Speaking of temples. I received a petition to build a temple for a particular faith, I said sure, and then I promptly forgot what deity/religion the petitioners were. Having trouble finding a record of this in the UI. Also, can you dedicate to a specific deity?

Currently I don't think there's a way to check old log entries in the Steam version, but I'm pretty sure they'll ask again. Yes, you can dedicate to a specific deity or religion.

https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Temple

[jlaflair]

Originally posted by Morkonan:

Originally posted by jlaflair:

Right now, there's no overlap. I have the entire inn, both the tavern part and the guest rooms, all as one zone. I contemplated trying to add secondary zones for the guest rooms, or a separate tavern zone each, but I just don't remember needing to do that. It's just weird!

If you're still with an "Expedition Leader" you have't gotten enough notoriety and Fortress rank. They should start flooding in at Baron. (County)

(Though, I've gotten a few much earlier than that, but don't expect to.)

Presently graduated from expedition leader to mayor, so not yet a Duke, but still a step up. IT may have to do, as others said, with my location. I'm not totally isolated, there's an elven kingdom right nearby which trades with me regularly, but others are a fair ways away.

To answer the below question from someone else about whether I've accessed the caverns, technically possibly, but maybe no? I'm on a volcano, so I can see down into tunnels I haven't accessed on my own which would have to be the caverns. However, I see they're also quite weapon trapped, which I take as a sign of unfriendly folk below. My fort is not exactly ... the most martial, so I haven't dug down there. I might and then seal it off, just to see if monster hunter traffic picks up!