Would a mod that would allow metal based beds be too OP?

[Pressed_Virgin_Rapeseed_Oil]

I saw one one the workshop and thought it would be nice to play with. I assume this makes sense because the wood for the beds is just the frame? But would this be OP? I think it would be pretty sweet to give some of my favorite dwarves and... nobles.. golden beds.

[Rainbow Jeremy]

Why wouldn't dwarves do something so unnecessary as make beds out of gold? Balance is a meme.

[Ratnix]

OP in what sense? It's a single player game.

It's not the intended way the game was developed, but why does that matter? If that's something you want to be able to do, and you are able to make the mod, or someone else does, go for it.

Games are supposed to be fun, and if having a mod that allows you to make metal beds lets you have fun, go ahead and play with it.

And maybe some day down the road you'll get to the point where you want a challenge and you'll play on a map with no wood or water and you'll have to breech the caverns asap so that you can get wood and water from the caverns.

It's all about what you want to do to have fun and the stories you want to make out of the game.

[Sinclair]

This game has no concept of fairness or balance. You can get a wandering beast year 2, you can get absolutely no wood or metal outside of zink. You can get no coal. You can get plopped right next to a necto tower in the tutorial (happened to me). You can get a werewolf visitor that turns and murders your entire fort the moment you look away.

On the other hand, dwarves produce so many crafts that you can regularly buy out whole caravans worth of goods. You can make a flooding corridor and stop worrying about goblins, or you can make an obsidianator and stop worrying about invading anything. A single 5x5 farm can support your entire fort with a skilled enough planter.

There is no balance. There is only Armok.

[Kasa]

Dwarves will fall asleep on dirt and only get a minor bad memory, beds and bedrooms are auxiliary at best.

Being able to make beds out of stone or metal would have the LEAST impact out of anything you could do for your dwarves.

And on that note amusingly enough due to the way combat works other mods that would do things like let you make weapons and armor out of unusual material would end up harming your dwarves more then helping.

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by Ratnix:

OP in what sense? It's a single player game.

It's not the intended way the game was developed, but why does that matter? If that's something you want to be able to do, and you are able to make the mod, or someone else does, go for it.

Games are supposed to be fun, and if having a mod that allows you to make metal beds lets you have fun, go ahead and play with it.

It's all about what you want to do to have fun and the stories you want to make out of the game.

I mean I get what you're saying and I even agree with you, but singleplayer games can still have balance problems. If they couldn't, then why isn't every singleplayer game pre-packaged with an "I win" button. Players optimise the fun out of their experience all the time by trying to pursue 'overpowered' singleplayer tricks, and dominant strategy isn't usually something people do because it's their preferred playing experience, but the most optimal way to play. Just the other day, someone here told me I was "playing sub-optimally" by using custom work orders to do metalwork but allowing all dwarves to make stone crafts lol. Gamers love their meta. Anyway, beds lol.

The on topic answer lol:

Metal beds aren't really overpowered. You're not sleeping on the wood anyway, but a mattress on top of it. Frankly, it makes no sense by cloth aren't a component of beds and the frame to be made out of anything. But if we suggest needing cloth mattresses and bed frames to be able to construct beds, Toady will implement it yesterday lol, and the game will be even more frustrating to penetrate.

[krugg.the.gamer]

lol couple days ago I lost my first good fort to wear elephants. I didn't even know what they were... there was one, it attacked my fort and we killed it. I just thought it was a black elephant and was stoked my guys beat him. The next full moon came, and 4 of my dwarves suddenly transformed in the middle of my largest tavern, killing everyone they could get their... um hoofs? Paw? Big ass elephant feet on.... ultimately leaving my fort full of corpses and 3 insane dwarves who transformed every month and killed anyone silly enough to try and migrate in. I love this game.