Why no support for square tilesets?

[Samuel_Bucher]

In pre-0.50 DF, you could edit the init.txt file to use a tileset with square (or any other resolution) tiles instead of standard 4*3. 0.50 still has the 16x16 version of the standart tileset, but using it makes the game unplayable since there seems to be no support for non-4*3 tiles. I sincerely hope this gets fixed soon, or at least eventually, because I hate the stretching of 4*3.

[Samuel_Bucher]

What curses_square_16x16 makes the game look like at the moment:
https://imgur.com/a/xJoggy9

[Aoki]

I had the same problem when I was trying out tilesets. Eventually I figured out that the old tileset I used before premium worked. It's 12x12 so maybe that had something to do with it.

Anyways here's the link to it
- https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:Alloy_curses_12x12.png.

In my opinion it looks better than 16x16 tilesets but you might find it small. Have fun and let me know if it doesn't work.

[Simmering Frog]

It looks like the tiles are being truncated horizontally when using alloy curses 12x12 (my favourite tileset by the way, clearly you are also a person of refined taste).

So the O's used for castles in the world map look like C's for example.

It seems to me that the init file assumes the tileset won't be square, which is such a crazy backwards leap from where we were before.

[FadeMeUpScotty]

huh, interesting. I am still relatively new (ish) to dwarf fortress, with only like 2 years with the game under my belt. I've been itching to play with different tilesets ever since the steam version dropped
I've mostly just been craving for GemSet
it looks so clean

[Aoki]

Originally posted by rory_rory_rory:

It looks like the tiles are being truncated horizontally when using alloy curses 12x12 (my favourite tileset by the way, clearly you are also a person of refined taste).

So the O's used for castles in the world map look like C's for example.

It seems to me that the init file assumes the tileset won't be square, which is such a crazy backwards leap from where we were before.

I appreciate your kind words, I tried so many tilesets after I couldn't get over the not square squares that the default curses offers. Alloy is probably the best curse tileset in my opinion.

About the "O"s looking like "C"s... I somehow don't have that problem. The one issue I have is that the premium UI is completely broken when I have every font in d_init set to alloy, it only works for the classic UI. Here is some screenshots of my game so you can see what I mean...

Right after a tribe of cave fish attacked my food and clothing workshops/stockpiles.
- https://www.flickr.com/photos/197284712@N03/52592141082/in/dateposted-public/

Here is an image of my world map
- https://www.flickr.com/photos/197284712@N03/52592624721/in/dateposted-public/

I have no idea why it works for me if other people are having problems.

[Aoki]

Originally posted by H:

You know if there is a way to use Kruggsmash set with this version ?

I wouldn't know if it would work but I'm guessing it wouldn't if the default curses 16x16 doesn't. Try it out!
The tileset is still there from Krugg's website ( https://kruggsmash.com/tileset/ ) and the tileset installation instructions from the wiki should still work for the most part. Just be sure to download the tileset image itself instead of the "complete package" since the files are probably outdated.

[mapoot]

if you're still struggling, have you tried changing all of the following e.g.
[FONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[FULLFONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[BASIC_FONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[GRAPHICS_FONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[GRAPHICS_FULLFONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]

at first I changed only the first two and had the same issue as you, it wasn't until I added basic and graphics font settings that it was resolved

EDIT: btw, thanks for the recommendation on alloy in this thread, I'm using it now B)

[Andre Solo]

Originally posted by mapoot:

if you're still struggling, have you tried changing all of the following e.g.
[FONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[FULLFONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[BASIC_FONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[GRAPHICS_FONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[GRAPHICS_FULLFONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]

at first I changed only the first two and had the same issue as you, it wasn't until I added basic and graphics font settings that it was resolved

EDIT: btw, thanks for the recommendation on alloy in this thread, I'm using it now B)

Did this make square tilesets work? Another similar thread says it is impossible right now.... Also I can not even find the last two parameters you changed ([GRAPHICS_FONT: / [GRAPHICS_FULLFONT:)

[Aoki]

Originally posted by Andre Solo:

Originally posted by mapoot:

if you're still struggling, have you tried changing all of the following e.g.
[FONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[FULLFONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[BASIC_FONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[GRAPHICS_FONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]
[GRAPHICS_FULLFONT:Alloy_curses_12x12.png]

at first I changed only the first two and had the same issue as you, it wasn't until I added basic and graphics font settings that it was resolved

EDIT: btw, thanks for the recommendation on alloy in this thread, I'm using it now B)

Did this make square tilesets work? Another similar thread says it is impossible right now.... Also I can not even find the last two parameters you changed GRAPHICS_FONT GRAPHICS_FULLFONT

I can't speak for mapoot but I assume it worked for him and it definitely worked for me. I've posted images proving it worked for me earlier in this thread.

About another thread saying it doesn't, I have no idea what thread you're talking about so I can't speak to it but it works for me so I would disagree with the idea that it's *impossible*.

Like you I tried to look for [GRAPHICS_FONT] and [GRAPHICS_FULLFONT] and couldn't find it but replacing [FONT], [FULLFONT], and [BASIC_FONT] seems to work fine for me.

You have to be aware that I've had problems with the premium UI after changing the file names, I have lines that go through the UI as you can see here...

- https://www.flickr.com/photos/197284712@N03/52624514448/in/dateposted-public/

- https://www.flickr.com/photos/197284712@N03/52624037966/in/dateposted-public/

Besides that I don't really know what else to say on this topic. If you have any trouble I'll post my txt files here so you can see what I have written on there, maybe that'll help. Have a good day!

P.S. I'm very happy that more people are using alloy, nice!

[Andre Solo]

Originally posted by AkimboAoki:

Originally posted by Andre Solo:

Did this make square tilesets work? Another similar thread says it is impossible right now.... Also I can not even find the last two parameters you changed GRAPHICS_FONT GRAPHICS_FULLFONT

I can't speak for mapoot but I assume it worked for him and it definitely worked for me. I've posted images proving it worked for me earlier in this thread.

About another thread saying it doesn't, I have no idea what thread you're talking about so I can't speak to it but it works for me so I would disagree with the idea that it's *impossible*.

Like you I tried to look for [GRAPHICS_FONT] and [GRAPHICS_FULLFONT] and couldn't find it but replacing [FONT], [FULLFONT], and [BASIC_FONT] seems to work fine for me.

You have to be aware that I've had problems with the premium UI after changing the file names, I have lines that go through the UI as you can see here...

- https://www.flickr.com/photos/197284712@N03/52624514448/in/dateposted-public/

- https://www.flickr.com/photos/197284712@N03/52624037966/in/dateposted-public/

Besides that I don't really know what else to say on this topic. If you have any trouble I'll post my txt files here so you can see what I have written on there, maybe that'll help. Have a good day!

P.S. I'm very happy that more people are using alloy, nice!

Yeah, those are the three things I changed and the problem I have is exactly the ones you show on your pics of the premium UI
I'm trying to use a 16x16 tho. I think it's the only difference from this alloy you guys are using.
Regarding it being possible or not: I would like to switch back and forth from premium to a square custom tile in the middle of the game. I'm assuming it's what someone called impossible in another "square tilesets" post here on steam.
Thanks anyway!