Birch Chair - Needs a Throne Room???

[Vi-El]

Edit: Guys I appreciate the comments on the manager but I know how to set that up xD
I literally cant put down the chair lol

So I started a more proper colony, wanting to see it through to the end after finally getting my head around the game a lil

Now I employed a manager and wanted to make his office.

Made a chair and a table so he has it nice and cozy and... it needs a throne room. Huh?

I so far made all furniture and doors of birch, I am in the literal first months, summer to be specific. What happened here?

[Vi-El]

Ursprungligen skrivet av chronosphaenon:

Then I'm out of ideas. Because with the scenario you are describing you should be able to build that d*mn chair.

Glad I am not the only one confused to crap here lmao

But thank you for going through this with me. I have no idea what the issue could be. Guess ill just do it manually till I figure it out.

[Morkonan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Black Puppet:

Ursprungligen skrivet av chronosphaenon:

This mean, either:
1 - You don't have any uninstalled chair/throne available anywhere in your fort;
2 - There is no path available between the point you are trying to install the chair/throne and any uninstalled chair/throne available anywhere in your fort.

As you said you are sure to have a birch chair available, check for #2.

Done that, both chairs I made are available for anyone to take inside of the carpenters workshop. Haulers have previously already taken items from it and hauled them to a stockpile so anyone building anything should be able to take it as well.

Items do not show up for job use/installation as being Inventoried Items until they are put in a Storage Zone.

Make a storage zone for Furniture, being sure to include Stone Thrones and Wooden Chairs.

(Throne/chair are the same thing. All Dorfs are their own Kings, so they call their beloved stone chairs... thrones, I guess.)

[Pogey-Bait]

Probably need a stone chair, not a wood one. Stone chairs are called thrones in this game, wood are called chairs.

Plus its not very Dwarfy to build wooden furniture, besides beds.

[Vi-El]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Morkonan:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Black Puppet:

Done that, both chairs I made are available for anyone to take inside of the carpenters workshop. Haulers have previously already taken items from it and hauled them to a stockpile so anyone building anything should be able to take it as well.

Items do not show up for job use/installation as being Inventoried Items until they are put in a Storage Zone.

Make a storage zone for Furniture, being sure to include Stone Thrones and Wooden Chairs.

(Throne/chair are the same thing. All Dorfs are their own Kings, so they call their beloved stone chairs... thrones, I guess.)

Oh???

I am so used to Rimworld being fully automated, this might actually be it O.o

[Vi-El]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Morkonan:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Black Puppet:

Done that, both chairs I made are available for anyone to take inside of the carpenters workshop. Haulers have previously already taken items from it and hauled them to a stockpile so anyone building anything should be able to take it as well.

Items do not show up for job use/installation as being Inventoried Items until they are put in a Storage Zone.

Make a storage zone for Furniture, being sure to include Stone Thrones and Wooden Chairs.

(Throne/chair are the same thing. All Dorfs are their own Kings, so they call their beloved stone chairs... thrones, I guess.)

Took a moment for them to grab the items but yea now I can put it down what the hell lmao

Thank you!

[chronosphaenon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Morkonan:

Items do not show up for job use/installation as being Inventoried Items until they are put in a Storage Zone.

Make a storage zone for Furniture, being sure to include Stone Thrones and Wooden Chairs

That sure can be a workaround for the OP's problem, but your first statement is not true.

I'm running a 200-ish dwarves fortress, with literally hundreds of installed beds and doors and dozens of chair/table pairs, not to mention bookcases, statues, armor racks and whatever other kinds of furniture and never had one stockpile which allowed furniture since day 1.

Under normal circumstances, items are perfectly installable directly from their workshops.

[Morkonan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av chronosphaenon:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Morkonan:

Items do not show up for job use/installation as being Inventoried Items until they are put in a Storage Zone.

Make a storage zone for Furniture, being sure to include Stone Thrones and Wooden Chairs

That sure can be a workaround for the OP's problem, but your first statement is not true.

I'm running a 200-ish dwarves fortress, with literally hundreds of installed beds and doors and dozens of chair/table pairs, not to mention bookcases, statues, armor racks and whatever other kinds of furniture and never had one stockpile which allowed furniture since day 1.

Under normal circumstances, items are perfectly installable directly from their workshops.

You may be right, but something about how the OP kept mentioning they were sitting there at the Workshop made me think that something, somewhere, is not "Seeing" them. That's all I could think of, provided that the OP is truly doing "everything else" correctly. I can't verify they are doing everything correctly, 'cause if that is true then they have entered a different Dwarf Fortress Steam Version timeline and the rules don't work well, there. :)

For "Inventory" purposes, though, I see mixed results if something is not in a stockpile or, especially, if it's being carried to one. Dorfs are like "containers" AFAIK, so that may be the cause of the second. (Not really familiar with deep Dorf knowledge. :))

Just a thought - Maybe a Dorf has claimed the chairs so they can move them? And, the OP hasn't really let much time pass? When claimed, I don't think other Dorfs can then claim that item for another Job until it's unclaimed, like after having been placed in a Stockpile. The error message they gave is pretty telling - The game can't see those items and thus, they don't exist. But, it's a default message. So, if the item is claimed, the result is the same in the error, but the reason is different. Maybe?

[Robert]

Uhm, I'm very certain that you don't need intermediate stockpiles. Building furniture which is sitting in your carpenter's or mason's workshop is absolutely possible. But maybe it needs a couple ticks to show up in your stocks, depending on how much else is going on in your fortress, and maybe even if your bookkeeper/manager is skilled enough and not too busy...

[Morkonan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Black Puppet:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Morkonan:

Items do not show up for job use/installation as being Inventoried Items until they are put in a Storage Zone.

Make a storage zone for Furniture, being sure to include Stone Thrones and Wooden Chairs.

(Throne/chair are the same thing. All Dorfs are their own Kings, so they call their beloved stone chairs... thrones, I guess.)

Took a moment for them to grab the items but yea now I can put it down what the hell lmao

Thank you!

YW!

Though, it may have been for different reasons - The error message may just not be very context sensitive. :) So, a Dorf might have been on their way to move a chair to a stockpile and it was temporarily not available for that install job. That could be a cause. I've seen that with my own items while they're being moved to stockpiles as well and have gotten the same error message as a result.

[Vettig Annikske]

Furniture sitting anywhere on the map is usable. No need for stockpiles or bookkeeper/manager to install furniture.
Maybe they were restricted?

[chronosphaenon]

Inventory numbers precision is dependent on your bookkeeper's skill and available time. That said, after a couple years in game, that will come to be as precise as dwarfly possible, and will more or less accurately reflect your numbers, even if not to the last dot. Say, it doesn't matter much if you have either 4357 or 4537 items of food. However, for things like furniture - which you should not be producing more than a 10-20 surplus at almost any time, it's quite precise, with the error, if any, being 1 or 2 units.

Items being carried by dwarves are still counted in inventory, but are not available to build. That supposedly includes the "carrying" between a workshop and the infinite dump beneath it, but that is almost instantaneous, even with low FPS numbers.

However, if you can see the item inside the workshop list, them it is available(ish) to be built. I say "ish" because items that are already reserved to be built/stockpiled will still show there until they are actually picked up and transported elsewhere, though no more available to anything else.

No dorf will "claim" an uninstalled piece of furniture. They can reserve it for a task, though.

[Morkonan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av chronosphaenon:

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No dorf will "claim" an uninstalled piece of furniture. They can reserve it for a task, though.

Yeah, I didn't mean it in the capital "C" "Claim" way, but the "claim as in "Reserve"" way. :)

Thanks for the detailed info!

[BlackSmokeDMax]

It is very likely that even though they were done in the workshop they were already "marked" for hauling to a stockpile. While they are marked like that, they are not available for other jobs to use them.

You can see this status as well, just look at the item in the workshop and you'll see some icons off to the right of the items name. If you hover over those, if they are marked for hauling, one of those icons will tell you that.

[chronosphaenon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av BlackSmokeDMax:

It is very likely that even though they were done in the workshop they were already "marked" for hauling to a stockpile. While they are marked like that, they are not available for other jobs to use them.

You can see this status as well, just look at the item in the workshop and you'll see some icons off to the right of the items name. If you hover over those, if they are marked for hauling, one of those icons will tell you that.

The actual text starts "This item is tagged by a task..." with no way of knowing if the task is hauling to a stockpile or anything else. Anyways, yes, it works.

[ostlandr]

I think sometimes if an item is in a workshop inventory, the game doesn't recognize it. It may need to be in an actual stockpile before you can access it.