Seedbags in Barrel!

[Edgio Auditore]

When I made this stockpile I am pretty sure I had not allowed any Barrel or Bin being there.
That thing was dedicated to cave grown stuff you start with!

I do not know HOW, but somehow the storage changed its settings to allow barrels.
Now I got the problem, that it is said on the farm plot that there are no seeds, though there are some in that barrel.

What do I do now?
Could need help from veterans here!

[AlP]

Originally posted by Edgio Auditore:

What do I do now?

Dump the seeds and reclaim. And set up the stockpile correctly :P

[Raumschiffo]

Originally posted by Edgio Auditore:

I do not know HOW, but somehow the storage changed its settings to allow barrels.
Now I got the problem, that it is said on the farm plot that there are no seeds, though there are some in that barrel.

When you enter the custom settings of a stockpile the bin/barrel/wheelbarrow settings are reseted. So always check the barrels again after touching the custom settings.

[Edgio Auditore]

Thanks for the replies!
as soon as I was going to make room for a dumping field, the dwarves began to take those seedbags out of the barrel.

I remember clearly that to be a problem in the last fortress, them not recognizing the seed thay had in bags in those barrels.

Did the devs fix something, or could something else cause those stockpile related traffic jams?

[Mountain King]

Iirc the problem was that dwarves would grab the seed barrel and bring it to the seed, rendering all the seeds in that barrel unavailable every time someone created a seed. I've not had an issue with it in the Steam version yet.

[Edgio Auditore]

... now the stock data says that I still got sweet pot seeds... in that barrel.
But instead there are only sand pear seeds... o.o

I am loosing sanity over here!!

[AlP]

Don't use barrels or bins in stockpiles, unless you know what you are doing.

Use only bags in seed stockpiles. And even that will cause some minor issues.

[Edgio Auditore]

Originally posted by AlP:

Don't use barrels or bins in stockpiles, unless you know what you are doing.

Use only bags in seed stockpiles. And even that will cause some minor issues.

Is it buggy, or why does that not work quite well?

I only use Bins and Barrels for finished goods, ammo and drinks... and for some plant and food materials.

I managed to unstuck some processes recently by unlinking stockpiles. Not sure how much that had contributed to my problem, but now my Dwarves seem not to mind picking stuff from those barrels, that they did not touch before.

[AlP]

Originally posted by Edgio Auditore:

Originally posted by AlP:

Don't use barrels or bins in stockpiles, unless you know what you are doing.

Use only bags in seed stockpiles. And even that will cause some minor issues.

Is it buggy, or why does that not work quite well?

I only use Bins and Barrels for finished goods, ammo and drinks... and for some plant and food materials.

I managed to unstuck some processes recently by unlinking stockpiles. Not sure how much that had contributed to my problem, but now my Dwarves seem not to mind picking stuff from those barrels, that they did not touch before.

There are several issues and bugs with items being unusable while in a bin. Running a binless fortress is a thing among some people.

Even without those issues, every time a dwarf wants to store a seed in a bag, he will claim the bag, leading to a job cancellation for any dwarf that wants a seed in that bag. It's not terrible, but happens. Put those bags in a barrel, now a dwarf can claim the entire barrel, causing problems for a ton of people...

Put items in a bin, and a dwarf will grab the bin and start hauling it over 200 z-levels gathering said items, and meanwhile nobody else can use them.

[Edgio Auditore]

... Oh dear!

I am speechless about that. So you better opt out your fortress for on the fly production with less stockpiles or do you go for big areas of temporary stockpiles for having all those seed laying around?

I can not imagine to completely refrain from the convenience of using bins and barrels in certain areas of my economy.

[AlP]

Originally posted by Edgio Auditore:

... Oh dear!

I am speechless about that. So you better opt out your fortress for on the fly production with less stockpiles or do you go for big areas of temporary stockpiles for having all those seed laying around?

I can not imagine to completely refrain from the convenience of using bins and barrels in certain areas of my economy.

Your seed limit by default is 3000 globally. Each bag can hold 100 seeds, so you don't need a huge stockpile. That works fine, no need for barrels.

Most items don't really need barrels, you can just make a really big stockpile. Put cats on food stockpile to catch vermin that will congregate on barelless food.

Some items work ok with bins. Stone blocks, for instance. Crafts, for trading.