Ok guys, sell me on this

[Chaonix]

IGN gives this a perfect 10.....and I LOVE Rimworld....but some of these things are holding me back:
Are there no animations? from the videos i've watched, it seems they are skipping through the screen.
The graphics seem to be REALLY bad to me. I am not a graphics ♥♥♥♥♥, but I need a little prettiness!
I really want to buy this game....but, help me get over or debunk the items i've mentioned! Thanks in advance!

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Play free version then decide if UI is upgrade

[Catteus Of Mars]

you need to fill in the blanks between the frames.... you read "garf the barkeep chops kobolds neck with broken bottle" "gabba the kobolds head goes flying" and you see item called kobold head 2 squares away from the body with liberate splattering of ketchup all around.... if you cant see how it went inside your head you probably cant deal with the graphics :3

[Skadar]

Yep, coming from RimWorld, the graphics are very weak... like mid-90s era. The sprites are just single images that just jump around. Not animated.

It reminds me of the early SSI Dungeons & Dragons games.... so I don't mind that much.

[ACS36]

Can pretty much dismiss any review giving a game a perfect 10.

[Dirty_Curty]

There are not animations. Unless you count a dwarf's teeth flying across the map after getting kicked by a giant three-eyed pigeon. Honestly, if this game had graphics it would crash your computer upon start-up. There is so much happening at any given time.

[ACS36]

Originally posted by Skadar:

Yep, coming from RimWorld, the graphics are very weak... like mid-90s era. The sprites are just single images that just jump around. Not animated.

It reminds me of the early SSI Dungeons & Dragons games.... so I don't mind that much.

Mid 90's is pretty generous. It's more like 90-92.

[32x32 Riker jpeg]

There are no animations and the default sprites are what they are. Granted the default sprites are a HUGE upgrade from the original stock graphics, which just used letters, numbers, and emojis from your computer's default system font to represent characters.

on the upside you can actually change all the sprites to your liking, the devs uploaded a modding guide and it has mod support right out the box.

[Ki11s0n3]

Play free version first and see if you like the gameplay and if you do wait for a discount. The game I don't think is worth the $30 right now. It has too many problems. I refunded for now because of it. Game is fun and the new graphics are great, but the controls and optimization are pretty bad right now.

[Harlequin]

The graphics are basic but the simulation is extremely deep.

If the ground gets wet it looks the same. Graphics limitation, okay. However, let me tell you about a bug that came out of rain. Every raindrop is individually simulated, and their velocity is monitored. There used to be a bug that would cause rain to sometimes murder dwarves because every drop fell at terminal velocity and therefore turned into a barrage of rail gun fire on anyone outside.

There was a bug where, because the liquids that cats walk through is tracked and cats consume the liquid when they lick their paws, cats kept dying of alcohol poisoning.

Every creature has stats. Even fish. The famous Carp Of Death bug came around because carp were registered as constantly swimming, which means they were absolute monsters in strength and could beat a dwarf to death.

Yeah these are bugs, but they are famous because it shows how incredibly deep the simulation is.

The difference between sand, silt, and loam is tracked and reported in game.

Dwarves will create auto-generated artwork that is from historical events and their memories, even from years ago.

It's a basic looking game, but it's an extraordinarily deep one. Some people are into that, some aren't. It's hard to learn to play, and you will spend a hundred hours on a fort that dies because one of your dwarves opened a door and let in a were-llama which killed your favorite stonemason, sending his friends into a spiral where they are killing each other until one throws open the "emergency" lever that floods the entire base that you intended to use to drive off invaders. If you can get into it then it's great, otherwise you might be bored. But there's a reason why Rimworld and others like it crib so heavily from its design.

[Fin]

This game is like nothing else.
It has a steep learning curve but the payout is worth it.
Much of what happens is more in the little things that build a story. Some of it is how you imagine it.
Big Plans - I once built an entry way into my fort with flood gates at either end and a grate floor.
Invaders would enter. First lever shut the gates. Second lever poured lava from the chamber above, burning away the flesh and clothes, leaving the delicious iron and steel. The third lever re-pumped the lava back up and my dwarves gathered the loot.
Another time I had the dwarves carve out a mighty temple from raw rock, starting at the roof as they tunnelled down, carving their stories on each wall as they descended 20 z levels deep.

On the surface this is just a ridiculously complex world simulator filled with alcoholic dwarves.
But in the details, the artworks they make, the history they build, the heroes they become and the absolutely twisted things you invent is the story you tell.

Watch some youtubes - I would suggest Kruggsmash. It is not a tutorial channel. He tells stories with DF.

[Soul]

Well seeing as I've probably put 1000+ hours into the classic version of DF I pretty much bought the steam version to show my support and thanks for all the fun over the years. Oh, and I am looking forward to the UI improvements etc but honestly that's just a bonus. I am excited to see how DF will continue to evolve and modernize. Its graphics definitely leave something to be desired but with the amount and depth of simulation this game runs honestly I think more sophisticated graphics would probably cause extreme performance issues and I'd rather have a game that runs smoothly and at a good speed than a game that runs like crap and looks pretty. Besides, fun core mechanics will always be more important to me than flashy cash grab ♥♥♥♥ that makes a good looking trailer for marketing purposes but doesn't live up to expectations in game. Idk man, this game just kinda inspires in me that feeling of soul and depth that no amount of money can pay to develop it just has to happen organically. Its a rarity. I would definitely say its not for everyone, in fact im willing to bet most people wouldn't like it just for the ui and graphics. I completely understand that and would never encourage anyone to play something they don't like or its not their style. I'm just saying maybe go check out the free version and if it fits what you are looking for maybe consider supporting the devs if you find yourself playing hundreds of hours like I have.

[JustSmile]

There is nothing to debunk, you are entirely correct. This game is ugly, has terrible UI, terrible introduction curve for newbies, no goal, it's generally very unfair. It's also among the best things in gaming... if you're into absurdly deep simulations with endless replayability.

[Empath demon]

This game is a masochism machine. If you value your health and sanity, look away. The quote unquote graphical version will be twice as confusing as the ASCII version and people will now pay money for the experience. Will Dwarf Fortress light the fuse for the end of the world? I wouldn't rule it out. It menaces. With spikes.

Having said that, it's pretty good and you should get it.

[Hammer]

History in gaming here. Sit it out or participate? $30 is cheap ticket. What will you tell your great grandchildren? You refused to buy Dwarf Fortress when it came out on Steam?

[Eli]

Originally posted by Verisar:

Play free version then decide if UI is upgrade

The free version has less game breaking bugs than the Steam release, currently.
There's a reason they never made a UI-version, it's because they were incapable of it.
It seems they still are.