Making dwarf fortress with modern coding

[Dendrazzik]

Well, why nobody can make this game in modern code?...like....if it's soo popular, why not making it with modern graphic, coding and so on?

[Vaendryl]

lots of people tried. they all failed horribly. take a look at "gnomoria", "Town", "gobling camp" and "Timber and Stone" for a few more well known examples.

the only one that took most of the basic premise and really made it its own is Rimworld. everyone that tried to do what you're saying failed as clearly it's not nearly as easy as your dunning-kruger infested mind assumes it would be.

[Dendrazzik]

Originally posted by Vaendryl.NL:

lots of people tried. they all failed horribly. take a look at "gnomoria", "Town", "gobling camp" and "Timber and Stone" for a few more well known examples.

Ok, but why it is so difficult?...this is my point, i don't get it...it's written in ASCII..i mean..lol

[Dendrazzik]

Originally posted by Frank McFuzz:

You're right, let me just click my fingers, since we live in a magic fantasy world where all work is wished better by it being 2022.

you're an idiot...it's not even my question

[Vaendryl]

Originally posted by Dendrazzik:

Originally posted by Vaendryl.NL:

lots of people tried. they all failed horribly. take a look at "gnomoria", "Town", "gobling camp" and "Timber and Stone" for a few more well known examples.

Ok, but why it is so difficult?...this is my point, i don't get it...it's written in ASCII..i mean..lol

then go ahead and code it yourself. since it's obviously completely trivial according to you I bet you'll be done within 3 months, just working on it a few hours a day here and there.

[Dendrazzik]

Originally posted by Robert:

And with "modern coding" you mean using C++20 instead of, say, C++14?

it's written in ASCII..i mean..lol

Oh, nevermind... you're either trolling or just stupid.

No i am not, it's a legit question!

[Dendrazzik]

Originally posted by Vaendryl.NL:

Originally posted by Dendrazzik:

Ok, but why it is so difficult?...this is my point, i don't get it...it's written in ASCII..i mean..lol

then go ahead and code it yourself. since it's obviously completely trivial according to you I bet you'll be done within 3 months, just working on it a few hours a day here and there.

My point is, coding get better with time, like coding language...and allow you to do more complex things...so i don't understand why it was so hard to reproduce. I am asking the REAL coder here.

[TinBlue]

Originally posted by Dendrazzik:

Originally posted by Vaendryl.NL:

then go ahead and code it yourself. since it's obviously completely trivial according to you I bet you'll be done within 3 months, just working on it a few hours a day here and there.

My point is, coding get better with time, like coding language...and allow you to do more complex things...so i don't understand why it was so hard to reproduce. I am asking the REAL coder here.

How is C and C++ not a modern coding language? Please educate us with your vast wisdom and knowledge.

[BeeeeesWith5Es]

Originally posted by Dendrazzik:

Originally posted by Vaendryl.NL:

lots of people tried. they all failed horribly. take a look at "gnomoria", "Town", "gobling camp" and "Timber and Stone" for a few more well known examples.

Ok, but why it is so difficult?...this is my point, i don't get it...it's written in ASCII..i mean..lol

It is not written in ASCII, ASCII is just the character set they use for the graphics (which isn't even accurate, because it's a texture with some ASCII characters on it). It's written in C++.
This game has been worked on for more than a decade by someone who has put a lot of work and effort into simulation systems and a lot of what winds up making it fun is the developer's sort of "auteur" (like his personality and particular way with putting things together).
As to "why nobody can make this with modern code," the answer is that they can. But no one has in quite the same way. If you don't understand why, then you just lack life experience or intuition.

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by Dendrazzik:

Originally posted by Vaendryl.NL:

lots of people tried. they all failed horribly. take a look at "gnomoria", "Town", "gobling camp" and "Timber and Stone" for a few more well known examples.

Ok, but why it is so difficult?...this is my point, i don't get it...it's written in ASCII..i mean..lol

Do it then. Bye.

[polle]

it is written in ASCII

[Rever]

Originally posted by Dendrazzik:

Originally posted by Robert:

And with "modern coding" you mean using C++20 instead of, say, C++14?

Oh, nevermind... you're either trolling or just stupid.

No i am not, it's a legit question!

It isn't written in ASCII that is just a character set. It is just little picture in a standard format. It isn't a computer language. https://computersciencewiki.org/index.php/ASCII

That is why they are picking on you a bit.

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by polle:

it is written in ASCII

ASCII isn't a code base what does this even mean.

[McFuzz]

A legitimate question is "This thing I am only judging by looking at screenshots appears to have flaws which I can't define or explain" yeah okay sure buddy. You don't own it, you've not played it, you think ASCII is a code base, you're insulting other people for pointing out you're an idiot, and you need to learn a skill before critiquing that of others.

Go do AI art or something, bozo.

[Beef]

With all of the simulation that happens in the background, adding modern 3d graphics to that would absolutely melt any modern machine. It may look simple, but there is way more going on in this game than in any other game you'll find out there.

[OGNocturnal]

Originally posted by polle:

it is written in ASCII

Nope.
Its written in c/c++ and rendered with SDL.
https://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/older_versions.html