Dwarf Fortress

Dwarf Fortress

Hunter9000 Dec 6, 2022 @ 3:27pm
Farm plot
every time I go to make a farm plot I always find sand or clay soil. which is considered poor soil to plant. how do i find a decent soil?
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Sneep Snorp Dec 6, 2022 @ 3:28pm 
Well for starters having a deep or very deep soil layer can help, or the caverns usually got good farmlands should you be able to irrigate some mud
Goatrocity Dec 6, 2022 @ 3:29pm 
You could do it outside
FozzieBare Dec 6, 2022 @ 3:30pm 
I believe the steam version received a farming update. farming on soil/sand/clay near the surface is less effective now. Good farming for plump helmets is now at the cavern level.
Warzone Dec 6, 2022 @ 3:31pm 
The good soil is very deep.

Accept the poor soil, your dwarfs will learn to live with it. It isn't actually -that- poor.
Bloodlance Dec 6, 2022 @ 3:32pm 
best farmland is at caverns but those places are a bit hostile (depending on luck). id go there when you get 5-6 other race mercenaries and around 10 armored and trained dwarfs, so around 8h gametime or 9h.
Hunter9000 Dec 6, 2022 @ 3:36pm 
thanks guys now i can
grow my plump helmets (:
Sneep Snorp Dec 6, 2022 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by Goatrocity:
You could do it outside
Thats a dangerous game youre playing at
Koles Dec 6, 2022 @ 11:08pm 
Noob question.

I made a farm plot outside, I even made a tiny area for seed stock only. It has some seeds in it... How do I farm?

When I select the plot and go to different season tab I don't see any options there. I have looked at some videos and I see people can select different crops.

What could be wrong here? Could it be that no plants fit my biome? Do I need to assign someone? Is soil not viable?
Walfas Dec 6, 2022 @ 11:12pm 
Originally posted by Koles:
Noob question.

I made a farm plot outside, I even made a tiny area for seed stock only. It has some seeds in it... How do I farm?

When I select the plot and go to different season tab I don't see any options there. I have looked at some videos and I see people can select different crops.

What could be wrong here? Could it be that no plants fit my biome? Do I need to assign someone? Is soil not viable?

Dwarven plants like plump helmets, cave wheat, and the like can't be grown above-ground.
Other Dec 6, 2022 @ 11:24pm 
Originally posted by Koles:
Noob question.

I made a farm plot outside, I even made a tiny area for seed stock only. It has some seeds in it... How do I farm?

When I select the plot and go to different season tab I don't see any options there. I have looked at some videos and I see people can select different crops.

What could be wrong here? Could it be that no plants fit my biome? Do I need to assign someone? Is soil not viable?

If you don't see any choices at all in the farm plot (rather than choices you can't select because you have no seeds for that plant), you may have put the farm plot in a non-farmable biome. Mountains, Glaciers, and Ocean biomes have zero farmable plants native to them. If I had to guess, I'd suspect that your farm plot is in a mountain biome, especially if you are playing the tutorial embark.

At least in the previous version, the game wouldn't allow you to embark in an area with no valid farmland, but it is perfectly possible that the central area is mountain, and all the farmable grassland & such is over on the edge, or even just one corner. If you want to tell what biome an area is without plopping down a farm plot, one trick that works about 90% of the time is to look at the types of ground cover (grass, although most of them don't have that anywhere in the name), and check the wiki for the biomes those grasses are native to.
Koles Dec 6, 2022 @ 11:35pm 
Originally posted by Other:
Originally posted by Koles:
Noob question.

I made a farm plot outside, I even made a tiny area for seed stock only. It has some seeds in it... How do I farm?

When I select the plot and go to different season tab I don't see any options there. I have looked at some videos and I see people can select different crops.

What could be wrong here? Could it be that no plants fit my biome? Do I need to assign someone? Is soil not viable?

If you don't see any choices at all in the farm plot (rather than choices you can't select because you have no seeds for that plant), you may have put the farm plot in a non-farmable biome. Mountains, Glaciers, and Ocean biomes have zero farmable plants native to them. If I had to guess, I'd suspect that your farm plot is in a mountain biome, especially if you are playing the tutorial embark.

At least in the previous version, the game wouldn't allow you to embark in an area with no valid farmland, but it is perfectly possible that the central area is mountain, and all the farmable grassland & such is over on the edge, or even just one corner. If you want to tell what biome an area is without plopping down a farm plot, one trick that works about 90% of the time is to look at the types of ground cover (grass, although most of them don't have that anywhere in the name), and check the wiki for the biomes those grasses are native to.

This might be it, I can visually see chalk sticking to the top layer too. I am not at home so can't check for more details.

So what do I do... Can I buy soil or set something up?
[MadTs] Phyrys Dec 6, 2022 @ 11:36pm 
Originally posted by Sneep Snorp:
Originally posted by Goatrocity:
You could do it outside
Thats a dangerous game youre playing at
Indeed. Imagine if anyone could learn that you can refine rice or potatoes into alcohol. You could sell this worldwide and obliterate civilizations with unbelivably strong stuff.
Sneep Snorp Dec 6, 2022 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by MadTs Phyrys:
Originally posted by Sneep Snorp:
Thats a dangerous game youre playing at
Indeed. Imagine if anyone could learn that you can refine rice or potatoes into alcohol. You could sell this worldwide and obliterate civilizations with unbelivably strong stuff.
Or half the farming staff might get decapitated by giant dragonflies
Avloren Dec 6, 2022 @ 11:45pm 
Originally posted by Koles:

This might be it, I can visually see chalk sticking to the top layer too. I am not at home so can't check for more details.

So what do I do... Can I buy soil or set something up?

The easy answer is to farm Dwarven crops (plump helmets, sweet pods, etc.) underground. Underground farms don't care about the surface biome/weather/etc.

If you really want to farm surface plants, try a different spot on the surface. Look for the places that native plants (or grass at least) are already growing.
Koles Dec 6, 2022 @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by Avloren:
Originally posted by Koles:

This might be it, I can visually see chalk sticking to the top layer too. I am not at home so can't check for more details.

So what do I do... Can I buy soil or set something up?

The easy answer is to farm Dwarven crops (plump helmets, sweet pods, etc.) underground. Underground farms don't care about the surface biome/weather/etc.

If you really want to farm surface plants, try a different spot on the surface. Look for the places that native plants (or grass at least) are already growing.

Okay, thank you, I will try it out once home!

I wanted my dwarves to have diverse diet :D.
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