I'm famous and you should buy this game.

[Sankis]

It's gonna be real good. DF has been a big part of my life for almost 20 years.

[McFuzz]

I'm not famous and I also think you should buy this game.

[Tinasbuddy]

mr diablo 3 item????

[Sankis]

Originally posted by Tinasbuddy:

mr diablo 3 item????

that's me

[McFuzz]

Sunkist? Like the drink? I'm thirsty give sippy :(

[Balsover]

This just popped up for me, and I don't really know what it is. Besides looking like a SNES game, why should I buy it?

[The Former]

Originally posted by Balsover:

This just popped up for me, and I don't really know what it is. Besides looking like a SNES game, why should I buy it?

Because you like sandboxes with obscene amounts of depth and procedural history that you actually live in and add to each time you make a fortress in a given world you've generated.

Because you like physics simulation that allows you to do things you couldn't dream of in games like Rimworld. For instance, setting up trap hallways that flush raiders into a steep crevice by pulling a level and releasing a ton of water into the corridor.

Because you like the idea that villains have procedural plots that exist in a dedicated part of their simulated brainspace. Because you like that your dwarves have memories, and big events that file to long-term memory can change them as people. Because you like that cats get drunk if they lick ale off their paws. Because you like that level of simulated health and personality.

If you don't like any of that stuff, you probably shouldn't buy it to be honest.

[Balsover]

That all actually sounds really cool, I would like that, yes. However, I'm having trouble getting over the graphics, it doesn't even have animations, they just "hop" everywhere.

Does it look as bad as it truly looks on the store page, or am I not seeing something?

[The Former]

Originally posted by Balsover:

That all actually sounds really cool, I would like that, yes. However, I'm having trouble getting over the graphics, it doesn't even have animations, they just "hop" everywhere.

Does it look as bad as it truly looks on the store page, or am I not seeing something?

No animations, that's correct. The reason for this, I suspect, is that they want to keep the work nice and tightly focused on features. They started with a 3D game way back when and quickly realized it was a slog to add all their many ideas to it.

Thus, they went to ASCII graphics for Dwarf Fortress, and though it was initially a side project, they quickly realized all their ideas for the other game and more easily slotted into Dwarf Fortress because they didn't have to worry about animating all of it and such.

It's a game with a mountain of ideas that just keep coming, so I suspect the option to "skin" the ASCII with animation-less sprites was partially to make it a smoother process to do so. It's work enough piling all their new ideas into the game without having to animate each new creature that comes in, I reckon.

Plus there's a procedurally generated monster mechanic that the sprites in the Steam version properly represent, and animating those smoothly would be quite the nightmare lol.

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by Balsover:

That all actually sounds really cool, I would like that, yes. However, I'm having trouble getting over the graphics, it doesn't even have animations, they just "hop" everywhere.

Does it look as bad as it truly looks on the store page, or am I not seeing something?

You can watch some streams if you need to see it moving. Kitfox has quite a few on their Youtube.

But like.... The game is managing the fortress, not watching the little men run around. If you're concerned over graphics enough for it to be the make or break of whether you enjoy a game, then you should not buy Dwarf Fortress.

But for reference, the graphics are 78,000x better than they've been for this game's last 16 years of life lol.

[Balsover]

Fair enough, sounds like a reasonable reason. We all complain from time to time about graphics over gameplay.

I did enjoy Towns, and it was nothing to speak of graphics wise. Ok, I will wishlist this, and check it out in a few days when it releases.

[The Former]

Originally posted by Frank McFuzz:

Originally posted by Balsover:

That all actually sounds really cool, I would like that, yes. However, I'm having trouble getting over the graphics, it doesn't even have animations, they just "hop" everywhere.

Does it look as bad as it truly looks on the store page, or am I not seeing something?

You can watch some streams if you need to see it moving. Kitfox has quite a few on their Youtube.

But like.... The game is managing the fortress, not watching the little men run around. If you're concerned over graphics enough for it to be the make or break of whether you enjoy a game, then you should not buy Dwarf Fortress.

But for reference, the graphics are 78,000x better than they've been for this game's last 16 years of life lol.

https://youtu.be/-rmcb1ZBXLc?t=4714

Behold the manner of map DF veterans had to navigate. Thank you for your service, lads. Your eyes bled that ours need not!

[McFuzz]

But the upside was that you could play it at work and your boss thought you were doing something really complicated and productive.

[The Former]

Originally posted by Frank McFuzz:

But the upside was that you could play it at work and your boss thought you were doing something really complicated and productive.

Or make a deal with Agent Smith without the newbie on the Nebuchadnezzar finding out, as the case may be. :D

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by Balsover:

This just popped up for me, and I don't really know what it is. Besides looking like a SNES game, why should I buy it?

Here's my official sales pitch lol: Dwarf Fortress inspired Rimworld, Minecraft, Craft the World, Songs of Syx, Gnomoria, Towns, and any number of games - Dwarf Fortress practically invented and refined that genre that they are, the colony builder was virtually unrecognizable before Dwarf Fortress hit the scene. It's been in development for 20 years, and it's so in depth it's mental. Like I could tell you a story of something that happened in game and you might not believe me it was possible lol.

On top of that there's Adventure mode where you can play an individual guy and go to forts that you or other players (with some save-file transferral) have built and lost to monsters or other destruction; that's still in development for the steam release though.

But yes we all admit that graphics are a bit rough lol. Better now, though. Best they've ever been.

That is my sales pitch lol. Hope to see you round but we don't mind too much if the graphics are too much of a hitch. If it's any consolation, it's not too hard to keep track of the blink movements.

Edit: Oh he already wishlisted it haha :D Well this is... for the next reader then :3 lol

[RoReaver]

I cannot wait for 33 hours to pass... I am only known to like 315 people but even I tried to do a LP of it back in the nascent days of my channel but leaves kept getting under walls and corrupting the save. And I tried 3-4 times, THIS TIME LADDIE THIS TIME!