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And the text-to-voice still says the words normally so it's not like the profanity filter even does anything because you can literally just hear the profanity in-game anyways.
My one friend can communicate only through text so this results in a bunch of bizarre situations where abruptly her words turn into random characters because "anno" is apparently an insult or something even if it's in the middle of another word.
Like... c'mon guys, all you've done is teach me *new* slurs and insults. I have literally learned entirely new derogatory terms just from my friend talking with us normally.
OBLIVION WHY DO YOU WANT ME TO LEARN NEW BAD WORDS? :(
In same cases the in game chat is not always good so using something like discord is best.
And, this is no longer something the devs MAY put in, but something they MUST put it.
See:
COPPA
GDR
CIPA
KOSA
EARN IT act
OSA
GDPR
etc. etc.
And yeah, if the game can be played by kids - even if it's not intended for them, or even has an age gate (unless it's really strong) - it counts as a game for kids. And in many of these regulations, it must comply to them - this isn't voluntary, and you can't disable it without a REAL age gate. (So, you have to give your credit card or driver's licence information to turn off the 'profanity' filter, or something similar.).
And it's not only profanity filters. Developers have to monitor or at least make a good effort at removing content that can identify any personal information about children.
Think about it for a moment. That's half the words in our vocabulary.
Add to that, this should ideally apply to voice chat.
This is a nightmare for developers that doesn't hide their head in the sand and hope it won't affect them. This is why games has less and less chat functionality or even removes it outright. Developers don't necessarily know if they will be affected, but in the current environment, it's better to be safe than sorry. If you can vote, vote for parties that oppose new draconian online regulations. If you can find any that are palatable otherwise.
A lot of devs are not aware of this, or assumes it won't affect them. There will be a few high profile cases to make an example and bring the rest in line. Really can't blame Obsidian for wanting to dodge that bullet.
Unfortunately until you can provide that I just can't get on board with believing this is strictly new regulation because no other game seems to have this issue with excessive filtering against 'profanity'.
'I am 13 years old' is just as bad to say as 'you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥' under these regulations. And that's really stupid. But it is.
Show me. Link me to the text. Tell me what bill. Give me the list of words. That's what I'd like to see.
You demand a lot here. "Show. Link. Tell. Give.". And all because you can't be bothered to search what I already provided. But, sure. I'm a helpful soul.
I cannot give you a list of words, for reasons that will soon become obvious. There isn't one. But I wouldn't be able to post it in steam anyway; there's not enough space. The name of every town, village, city and street name in USA, all telephone and social security numbers as well as all first and last names. And that's for starters.
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-16/chapter-I/subchapter-C/part-312
I assume you can imagine the list of words requiring to be censored to delete 'all or virtually all personal information'. What does COPPA consider personal information, though?
See the definition of 'collected online' in the first quote.
A game is a platform covered by these regulations. Unless it has ironclad age gates, all games are considered 'for children'. Even if they have a 'mature' rating and has a reasonably strict age gate they are considered for children, several articles assures us.
So, when collecting personal information is supposed to be made impossible (from children) you can probably imagine how many words needs to be censored. Censoring words is a ridiculously ineffective way of enforcing it, BUT what other option is there?
(Only allowing pre-canned messages, or have live moderation of messages before posting. The former is too restrictive, the latter is logistically impossible.).
That's a small excerpt from one of the regulations. There's a LARGE number of these acts being put up in many nations, what I posted previously is a very small subset - but admittedly the ones Obsidian probably needs to pay the most attention to.
Some numbers from UN - about data and privacy protection, which is a large set of laws of which this is a subset - serves to illustrate the scale of this.
Remember, a game needs to adhere to ALL the ones it can be played in.
https://unctad.org/page/data-protection-and-privacy-legislation-worldwide
I mean, we can agree that that's an overreach and is a tad silly, but it also doesn't seem to apply to anything that could be reasonably expected of any game developer - and especially does not apply in this case.
Allow me to explain:
Game developers would require a list of all of those things in order to ban them. That would require them inserting every name, every address, etc., into a filter. That is - as any court would quickly find - a completely unreasonable expectation unless the government is actively providing said information. Typically the response is instead to require game developers to shut down that stuff ASAP.
Even if it was the case that all of that stuff is necessary and they did it, stuff like "am" does not fit into any of those categories. We've got dozens of examples of what are slurs in other languages being included in these filters, most of whom are so obscure and foreign that they don't even resemble a slur to anyone on the forums. If it was required that that stuff be censored, then Oblivion still didn't do it right because the in-game text-to-voice reads it without censoring it. All of this suggests that the filtering we're seeing is not, in fact, caused by government overreach - but rather the developer/publisher opting for unreasonably extensive lists of banned words that could be interpreted as offensive. A list so broad that it makes normal communication in English - the text it's being written in - incredibly goofy.
So, no, I'm not yet convinced that COPPA is the cause of this. There are just too many inconsistencies. Especially since I'm pretty sure I could go comfortably type in my IRL address and it wouldn't be censored.
Edit: Just checked it. My address was not filtered. "Am" still was.