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Grounded has very minimal hardware requirements:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/grounded/system-requirements
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Assuming you're not running this on a potato, this is most likely a "You" problem.
and there is the 2ND discussion on it with the PC specs added. the 1ST discussion, i can't find it.
Using the information you provided, however:
* Your 2018 CPU does appear up to the task for this particular game
* Your Win 10 appears relatively up-to-date, but not the "most current" version
Note: There isn't a pressing need to update right away, as it's up-to-date enough.
However:
* Only having ~8 GB of free RAM remaining (out of 24 GB) is a tad concerning
What is using all that RAM? - 1 (or more) background processes are consuming your RAM
An idle (ie. no open programs) system should NOT be using nearly ~16 GB of RAM...
Granted, the remaining RAM is sufficient to run Grounded, however, whatever is running in the background is also taking resources away from a more robust gaming experience. This can cause video stuttering as background processes are still working while you are gaming.
Fix: Find out what is consuming all the RAM (Task Manager will work), and end/close it.
Now, What about:
* GPU: As the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 has no internal GPU, you MUST have a discrete GPU
Why: The GPU is arguably the single "most important" thing for gaming performance...
Fix: Task Manager can also be used to tell what GPU you are using.
* HDD: Are you using a magnetic hard drive, solid state, or an NVMe for storage?
Why: Slow magnetic hard drives (yes, they still exist) will "stutter" loading new map areas.
* Game Settings: More details on your "low" settings would also be helpful
Why: "Low" is somewhat vague, and (for computers anyway) specifics are important.
And, for future reference in diagnosing gaming (or PC) issues:
The built-in Windows DirectX Diagnostic Tool (dxdiag) is quite handy for gathering a wealth of specifications and useful information about your specific PC.
How: Type "dxdiag" in the Search Box, then select the "Run Command" option
Help > System information.
GPU:
Radeon RX 580 Series
Driver version: 31.0.21905.1001
Driver date: 17/10/2023
DirectX version: 12 (FL 12.0)
Physical location: PCI bus 6, device 0, function 0
Utilization 42%
Dedicated GPU memory 1.5/8.0 GB
Shared GPU memory 0.1/4.0 GB
GPU Memory 1.5/12.0 GB
drive in the pc:
the inside drive is a SSD, and a moveable HDD holds steam.
Game Settings:
things in the graphics tab are the lowest you can have.
System Information:
Machine Id: {61794147-8D08-479F-9047-398B1CB3ECFF}
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 19045) (19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
BIOS: P3.30 (type: UEFI)
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor (12 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 24576MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8124MB RAM
Page File: 18000MB used, 7815MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DirectX Database Version: 1.0.8
DxDiag Version: 10.00.19041.3636 64bit Unicode
is that is the info you need?
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* GPU: AMD Radeon RX 580, 08 GB vRAM
Hardware: Good, this GPU should be capable of running Grounded at low-mid settings
Software : Fair , the video drivers are a bit out-of-date (newest was updated last month)
You have: AMD Adrenalin Edition 23.11.1; Released 10/17/2023
Latest : AMD Adrenalin Edition 24.3.1 ; Released 03/20/2024
Fix: Update your AMD video drivers to the latest Windows 10 version
Keeping your video drivers updated is a good idea, especially when having gaming issues.
https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/radeon-500-series/radeon-rx-500-series/radeon-rx-580
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* Do you mean Steam is installed on a "removable" drive, or just a rotating magnetic drive?
An external "removable" (USB) drive would be very, very bad for game performance.
An external "removable" (eSATA) drive is better, but not as good as an internal hard drive.
* Where is Grounded installed?
On the SSD would be best, but it's most likely installed on your Steam drive.
Fix: None, lacking sufficient information
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There is still a bit of room for ambiguity here.
The Grounded "Low" setting doesn't change some other (performance affecting) settings that could possibly be causing your in-game stuttering problems.
I strongly recommend changing the Grounded video settings one-at-a-time to help figure out which one is causing (or affecting) your particular problem.
Change one setting, play the game to see if stuttering is better, rinse/repeat as necessary.
Fix: Try these settings in Grounded:
Window Mode : Full Screen (for best performance, than Windowed modes)
Resolution : 1024x768, increase only after the problem is diagnosed/corrected
Quality : Low, which is what I believe you are currently using
Frame Rate Limit : 60, even if you have a fancy > 60 Hz gaming monitor
AMD FSR : Performance
Motion Blur : As low as you can tolerate (lower settings improve performance)
Chromatic Aberration : Off (improves performance)
Field of View : 90, the recommended setting
Render Scale : As low as you can tolerate (try 80, but you may have to go lower)
After the stuttering issue is eliminated, only then increase settings to improve aesthetics...
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Good luck.
that is a 6 TB, the drive in the pc is just 500 GB, and steam is 2.71 TB in size.
as for the updating, i stop win update for as long as i can. once the stop time ends, i have to update. likely to keep bad updates out of the way.
BTW, the game works fine as is on highest settings, with the wasp update still worked find, but the (i think the playground) update after the wasp update is when the game lagging started.
Well, then, game lagging is to be expected. You can't game well on external USB drives.
Fix: Get an internal drive (SSD, or NVMe if the motherboard supports it), or just take the drive out of the USB enclosure and install it directly in your PC (~8-10+ times faster).
WARNING:
Installing your external USB drive inside the case will likely change it's drive letter, causing all of your Steam games to have issues (ie. not launch at all). A new drive is safest, as the Steam utility allows you to migrate your individual games onto this new drive fairly easily.
And, yes, for all the nerds waiting to pounce on that last statement, I know you can alter the drive letter of a drive after installation... I'm was trying to keep it as simple as possible.
You will have game load/lag issues if the game is installed on an USB external drive.
There is nothing you can do about this, short of installing the game on internal storage.
Me too, except when having issues with game performance for a game update that occurred after your last Windows Update...
However, a Windows Update for you isn't that critical for this particular game issue.
What is critical, though, is to update your video drivers (see AMD website above).
Do it, Do it now...
I'm confused. Did the game work fine or not fine after the Wasp Update?
Doesn't really matter, since you're using the Playground update anyway...
You have no idea what changed behind the scenes of any given game update.
For major updates, it's usually safe to assume settings will need tweaking afterwards.
They may have upgraded the game engine, models, textures, anything...
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A good chunk of time elapsed between the Wasp and Playground updates...
What else did you change/install on your system during that time frame?
As your game worked fine on max settings for one update, and lags on the new update, this is the "smoking cap gun" whatever was changed/installed is causing your problems...
I still think there is a (very large) background application consuming all your resources.
This would also cause periodic lagging in your foreground game application.
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More information about when/how your game lags would be helpful at this point.
Does it only lag doing certain things (fighting, running, on a zip line?), or just "always".
The Boss fights (Mantis, Brood Mothers, Queen) are known to be unusually laggy due to the CPU/GPU overhead of rendering those spiffy boss arena with all that spooky ambiance.
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And, if all else fails, put your PC in a box and send it to me to be fixed. :D
I promise not to sell it on eBay, no really...
You can always trust strange people online...
i got to the robot and am going to the 1ST lab, so always. i can just stand there looking at bugs and still it lags.
not bloody likely. last (and 1ST) ass hat i trusted locked my old XP PC and tryed to get 200$ out of me to get it back. i didn't pay and they killed her for good.
so i'm very X10 picky about trusting strange people online to link, or get there hands on my PC. i lost 1, i'm NOT losing a 2ND.
that said, thanks but no thanks.
I was kidding...
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Okay, I'm officially out of ideas on the root cause of this particular issue...
Only two choices remain then:
* Contact Obsidian Technical Support (https://support.obsidian.net/)
or
* Wait until "Fully Yoked" update comes out (Apr 16th), and hope it fixes the game issues.
Good luck.
Also why the hell is your page file more than twice the maximum? Actually your RAM might be a problem after all... That doesn't make any sense. A page file like that means you're trying to pull data directly from the drive instead of storing anything in RAM that WILL cause stutters.
What are your RAM specs, brand, speed, ddr4 bare minimum?
The available OS memory is strange too...
Something ain't right. It's supposed to look like this
"Memory: 32768MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 31864MB RAM
"
Wait a second... are you using virtual memory with a disk? Dude. No. That's not a magic fix for not buying enough memory. Virtual memory is significantly slower than actual RAM. It's almost like you turned an office PC into a gaming machine but in the worst way possible. You need proper RAM ddr4 at least and just buy new storage, don't run externally. You're asking for slowdowns like that.
2tb is like 180 bucks these days and 1 tb is 100 or less. Nvme SSDs btw.
I agree, that the number/type of RAM chips here would be very, very interesting...
I wonder if mismatched RAM sizes/speeds are negating the dual-channel RAM bus benefits.
* The page file is indeed disturbing, hopefully it wasn't manually set so large by "someone"
I wonder where the page file is actually stored (SSD, or on the -gasp- external USB drive).
Fix: It's at least a good idea to re-create the page file, using System Managed Size.
It's not like that'd hurt anything, and it would make the page file size a bit more reasonable.
* This chip only supports a maximum of DDR4 @ 2933 MT/s, so it's either that or slower
* And I'm really curious why an idle Win10 system is using nearly 16 GB of RAM.
Even with a few windows open (and lots of browser tabs), mine only uses about 10 GB or so.
Something (somethings?) major must be running in the background for those RAM numbers.
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Yes, I said I "gave up", but this is more fun than farming Gold Bug Cards. :P
no know why that is, i have 3 3 8 GB RAM chips used with a 4TH unused slot. oddly, if all 4 RAM slots are used (that'd be 4 8 GB RAM chips), my PC stops working. it'll not even boot up.
where did i find that?
i use SSDs, HDDs and RAM chips. no virtual memory as far as i know, but not sure.
if it was manually set so large by "someone", it wasn't me.
System Managed Size? that's a new one to me. where can i find it?
in order the highest 5 memory users (if that is RAM) are.
1. the game
2. steam client wabhelper (4)
3. AVG software analyzer
4. steam client wabhelper
5. service host: DCOM server process launcher (5)
6. (without the game running) AVG antivirus engine server
So if the previous user is right, your CPU only supports 2 memory channels anyways so you should be running dual channel, aka 2 ram sticks.
To know what brand and specs you could use CPU-Z, a free program. Under the memory tab it tells you what version of DDR you have, the speed and the latency. Then under the SPD category it tells you the module AND DRAM manufacturer.
That said, it's a straight nono to use your disks like memory for gaming. Your SSD and yes in 2024 you should only have SSDs for gaming, should strictly be for storage only. Don't use anything external for gaming.
Your pagefile is huge so there's something fishy going on, if you didn't set up your PC that way someone may have and it's not good. It makes it look like you only have ONE real 8GB stick and the rest is pagefile which would stutter most games you would try to play.
It seems like you are also new to PC's internals so diagnosis will be quite difficult. I would start by taking out all external drives, Ideally you would buy a new NVME SSD with 1TB-2TB capacity and clone your old drive over but it may be something you don't know how to do.
If not just try getting rid of the external drives temporarily, see how the game runs installed on your internal drive, and give us a new DXDIAG after you disconnect all that stuff.