Grounded
Rock&StoneTorture 2022년 8월 22일 오전 11시 20분
This is the only game that overheats my cpu and gpu
My specs

i5 11400f
32 gb crucial ballistix
msi gtx 1660 ventus oc 6gb


Today I played the game a little bit more. Experienced some weird lags. Quit the game then checked intel extreme utility. The max temp was 86c. This is not normal because my cpu stays under 80c even in most demanding games. (The place I live is very hot in summer)

I googled this issue and saw that there were others who experienced it too. Like two years ago, and still. When will they address this?
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JokersWild 2022년 8월 27일 오후 1시 08분 
MycroftCanadaNS님이 먼저 게시:
Sadist_cain님이 먼저 게시:
OVERHEATING IS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS YOUR HARDWARE.

Software can't overheat your machine unless you have done a piss poor job and do not have adequate cooling.

This is not entirely true. Please know more before you make a post like this. The game isn't optimized.

Optimizing the software will have it running smoother with less issues and less demand. So, it is hardware. Unless you are referring to malware that is designed to overload hardware. The game runs okay on nearly all PC's, laptops and even my daughter's Dell 2 in 1.

So, maybe it would be a good time to clean up junk on your PC, update drivers, clean up the registry, etc. I would say use CCleaner if you are not familiar with how to do most of that.

I realize that not everybody has money to buy new PC's and laptops, I don't. I get a new one every several years at refund time lol. Some of the dinosaurs people run on here and expect to run miracles is astounding though. I have an i7 that is sluggish in some games...of course, that i7 was from 2009 along with the rest of the system.

Get a barebones system and build what you want/need to last. I usually get mine from MagicMicro, or at least the last 5-10 PC's are there for my family and me. Honestly, if money is an issue I would get minimal on case, memory and graphics card (or skip graphics card if MOBO has internal..). Then get best CPU, MOBO, HD you can. Memory and graphics you can upgrade at any point. Case is mostly about style...just get what you need that supports what you want. There are other companies that do barebones, I just use that place because you aren't paying for big names or other junk but still get quality items.

That's just my 2 cents though.
JokersWild 2022년 8월 27일 오후 2시 15분 
Pandora's Actor님이 먼저 게시:
how do you cool your cpu ? what is your cooler?

How hot does it get in other games? and what games do you define as demanding?

Your case typically has several fans which push hot air out. Usually have an aluminum diffuser on top of the CPU as they spread the heat and cool down faster than some metals. Often those are combined with CPU fans to help them cool faster. Newer tech (kind of new, but not really..) is liquid cooling which is sort of like the cooling system in a car. Pretty much cooled liquid is circulated over a closed system connected via thermal paste or something similar to further aid with cooling. If you are in a fairly warm room or over-clock your processor then you probably want to look into better cooling.

It doesn't get hotter than other games. People have issues with their PC's and the components or set ups and instead of improving what they have they blame it on the software.
Pandora's Actor 2022년 8월 28일 오전 1시 45분 
ddrulez님이 먼저 게시:
Pandora's Actor님이 먼저 게시:
yeah no thats not a good thing.

You will get more frames at lower settings yes. however because it is lower settings your computer needs to do less to achieve it. thus the gpu and cpu wont really heat up much. which isnt a good showing of temperatures. its better to crank it to max.

And no thats a very bad advice. if your cpu goes above 82 ish degrees you should already take a look at it. below 90 degrees meaning 85-89 is way to hot. it shouldnt reach such temperatures. a good cooled cpu should only reach such temperatures if its taxed out completely with max wattages by things like prime95.

I running my CPUs for years with such high temps. Intel and AMD. Transcoding videos with temps around 87c. No propblems with the CPUs ever.
My old Apple laptop with a i7 would go up to 95c and throttle down. The CPU dosent care it will protect itself and clock down. But i dont recommend running the CPU abouve 90c.

If you use low GPU settings and no vsync the only limit is the CPU. The CPU will have to work a lot more.
you probably just didnt notice the problem but my guess it defenitly isnt capable of achieving the clocks it used to achieve without recieving higher voltages.
Obsidian-Chris 2022년 9월 2일 오후 1시 09분 
Rock&StoneTorture님이 먼저 게시:
My specs

i5 11400f
32 gb crucial ballistix
msi gtx 1660 ventus oc 6gb


Today I played the game a little bit more. Experienced some weird lags. Quit the game then checked intel extreme utility. The max temp was 86c. This is not normal because my cpu stays under 80c even in most demanding games. (The place I live is very hot in summer)

I googled this issue and saw that there were others who experienced it too. Like two years ago, and still. When will they address this?


Hi! I have a few questions for you regarding this issue.

What is your GPU temp reaching?

Is your case well ventilated and does it have proper airflow?

Have you cleaned it lately? Get all the dust and nasty bits out.

What is your FPS set to? Can you set your fps to 60?

What does your FPS get to when your in the UI or menus?

Thanks!
Metroid 2022년 9월 2일 오후 1시 38분 
You can address it by getting better cooling for your hardware or more fans for airflow in your case. it's not up for the developers to fix your computer, stop blaming them.

Just because others have the same problem as you does not mean its something wrong with the game, its your own fault and ignorance.
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MONZUN 2022년 9월 3일 오전 5시 53분 
Sadist_cain님이 먼저 게시:
OVERHEATING IS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS YOUR HARDWARE.

Software can't overheat your machine unless you have done a piss poor job and do not have adequate cooling.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, badly optimized software can cause extreme heat on the cpu and especially the gpu. i've seen alot of games in my 30 years of gaming that would heat up my gpu by 5-10°C more than the most demanding but well optimized game's i've played (and i played them all). Its an issue especially with the unreal engine when devs don't optimize it. Some games will then heat up the gpu to the maxium thats possible due to its gpu bios, for me thats 83°C for others its 86°C due to different gpu manufacturers setting different bios limits.

i'Ve seen games that had 50% gpu load on my system at 60fps locked that would heat up my gpu to 83°C and i've seen ALOT (most as this doesn't happen often) of games that would run at 99% gpu load but would "only" heat up my gpu to like 78/79°C.

grounded is definitely on of those few games that is horribly optimized and heats up the gpu/cpu massively and MUCH more than most other games. another good example is hot wheels unleashed, its the same as grounded
sheap 2022년 9월 4일 오전 12시 09분 
I had a similar isssue on another game which is not hard to run on any config (disco elysium), the games overheated my PC and fans started to blow like crazy although it was mostly silent on Flight simulator, cyberpunk etc...

I solved it by capping the FPS at 60 (you should be able to do it in the Nvidia panel or on the .ini setting of grounded if the ingame menu doesn't let you do so).

Maybe you're running the game at 143+FPS, did you checked that ?
Sadist_cain 2022년 9월 4일 오전 8시 59분 
MycroftCanadaNS님이 먼저 게시:
Sadist_cain님이 먼저 게시:
OVERHEATING IS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS YOUR HARDWARE.

Software can't overheat your machine unless you have done a piss poor job and do not have adequate cooling.

This is not entirely true. Please know more before you make a post like this. The game isn't optimized.

You couldn't show yourself to be more ignorant with fewer words if you tried, you are completely and utterly clueless so spare me that.

The optimisation of the software has absolutely ♥♥♥♥ all to do with the hardware's capability to run at its specification.

It's irrelevant whether it's optimised, un-optimised, the numbers matter ♥♥♥♥ all, the processor should be able to run at 100% 24/7 without throttling if need be, that's how it was built and if the system it's placed inside cannot cool it adequately when it runs at 100% then the system does not have adequate cooling to support that processor.

It is completely and utterly irrelevant what the load on the processor is.

PC is prebuilt and skimped on cooling and a case with adequate ventilation in favour of selling higher spec parts for a higher mark up.

End of, it's not an opinion an argument or a discussion.
Sadist_cain 2022년 9월 4일 오전 9시 24분 
MONZUN님이 먼저 게시:
Sadist_cain님이 먼저 게시:
OVERHEATING IS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS YOUR HARDWARE.

Software can't overheat your machine unless you have done a piss poor job and do not have adequate cooling.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, badly optimized software can cause extreme heat on the cpu and especially the gpu. i've seen alot of games in my 30 years of gaming that would heat up my gpu by 5-10°C more than the most demanding but well optimized game's i've played (and i played them all). Its an issue especially with the unreal engine when devs don't optimize it. Some games will then heat up the gpu to the maxium thats possible due to its gpu bios, for me thats 83°C for others its 86°C due to different gpu manufacturers setting different bios limits.

i'Ve seen games that had 50% gpu load on my system at 60fps locked that would heat up my gpu to 83°C and i've seen ALOT (most as this doesn't happen often) of games that would run at 99% gpu load but would "only" heat up my gpu to like 78/79°C.

grounded is definitely on of those few games that is horribly optimized and heats up the gpu/cpu massively and MUCH more than most other games. another good example is hot wheels unleashed, its the same as grounded


Great anecdotes, don't care.

The software causing the load is irrelevant, the type of load is irrelevant, the amount of load is irrelevant the hardware is built to run at 100% 24/7 and everywhere in between with whatever instruction set it is capable of if required.
If it can't do that without overheating and throttling then your cooling and system isn't up to the specification required to run that hardware properly.
seven 2022년 9월 4일 오전 11시 04분 
Sadist_cain님이 먼저 게시:
Great anecdotes, don't care.

The software causing the load is irrelevant, the type of load is irrelevant, the amount of load is irrelevant the hardware is built to run at 100% 24/7 and everywhere in between with whatever instruction set it is capable of if required.
If it can't do that without overheating and throttling then your cooling and system isn't up to the specification required to run that hardware properly.

Yeah, wrong. 100% load in one program is not the same as 100% load in another. Temperature depends on the operations carried out. Now, it's true that if your CPU is overheating it's because the cooling system isn't up to the task, but do you dump a ton of money into a build to take care of the extreme cases, or just what's reasonable?
KieSeyHow 2022년 9월 4일 오후 4시 12분 
Some of you make some valid points. Yes, theoretically your system SHOULD support 100% load all the time, but sadly I doubt ANY of you are using "enterprise" hardware, well except me of course. Hardware, tools, cars, all have what is called a "duty cycle." Enterprise workstations and servers are meant to operate up to 100% duty cycle, consumer hardware, is not. This is why commercial equipment, tools, and computers cost a LOT more than a simple consumer gaming system. Yes, it is certainly possible to boost a consumer device to operate at 100% duty cycle, but the various components are generally not made to the same standards.

Your cooling system SHOULD be able to handle 100% duty cycle at 100% load and maintain an adequate temperature, if not then it is a simple fact that your system, or you, has design flaws and some incapability with operating a system.

Now, on to software, it is factual that code can be faulty, or deliberately written, to damage hardware. While your system should be capable of maintaining cooling at 100% duty cycle, it is also still possible to damage it with bad code. Just like trying to drive your car at freeway speeds in second gear.

IF your computer is overheating, Grounded is NOT THE CAUSE. You are.
Pandora's Actor 2022년 9월 5일 오전 6시 31분 
KieSeyHow님이 먼저 게시:
Some of you make some valid points. Yes, theoretically your system SHOULD support 100% load all the time, but sadly I doubt ANY of you are using "enterprise" hardware, well except me of course. Hardware, tools, cars, all have what is called a "duty cycle." Enterprise workstations and servers are meant to operate up to 100% duty cycle, consumer hardware, is not. This is why commercial equipment, tools, and computers cost a LOT more than a simple consumer gaming system. Yes, it is certainly possible to boost a consumer device to operate at 100% duty cycle, but the various components are generally not made to the same standards.

Your cooling system SHOULD be able to handle 100% duty cycle at 100% load and maintain an adequate temperature, if not then it is a simple fact that your system, or you, has design flaws and some incapability with operating a system.

Now, on to software, it is factual that code can be faulty, or deliberately written, to damage hardware. While your system should be capable of maintaining cooling at 100% duty cycle, it is also still possible to damage it with bad code. Just like trying to drive your car at freeway speeds in second gear.

IF your computer is overheating, Grounded is NOT THE CAUSE. You are.
not fully true. as op stated "This is not normal because my cpu stays under 80c even in most demanding games."

i could say the same. my cpu normally sits around 65-70c my gpu around 70-75c even with current hot temperatures. However grounded for some reason causes this to go up much higher. even compared to games like.. cyberpunk or modded rts games that tax your cpu to the max. this game somehow manages to still tax my hardware more than it really should. my cpu usually ends up around 74 and gpu around 82 in this game. regardless of ambient temps and such. and i have to then agree that there is something in this game that causes it. because if it would be a related issue based on someones pc and not the game than other games which are more demanding i might add, would be seeing the same or hotter temperatures. but they arent. which leads to only one conclusion. its this game that creates some weird behaviour. and not the hardware itself.
KieSeyHow 2022년 9월 5일 오전 8시 52분 
You guys who have the heat issues, you should compare GPU models, perhaps a pattern will emerge? On this system the game (mostly max quality as some things I don't like turned on) the GPU heats to the mid-50's degrees Celsius. Air-cooled blower-type video card, a GTX 970. The game does't make the system work hard at all, CPUs stay about 20% load (dual Xeon workstation). I am curious if those of you whom have heat issues, can find parallelisms with hardware. Perhaps try disabling some of the latest video driver features or running the game on DirectX 11 to see if that fixes the issue.
EazyLee 2022년 9월 5일 오전 9시 45분 
This is the only game I own that also makes both my gpu and cpu go crazy

11th gen i5 11400
RTX 3060 ti

It doesn't get too hot as I have pretty good ventilation on my machine, but Grounded does indeed push the card and processor to max for some reason. It shouldn't even be that demanding of a game really so I can see how people are having problems if they don't have the best airflow etc.


It's confused me for a while now, I can't work out why its so taxing on my machine when it doesn't break a sweat on some of the most demanding titles out there. I just ended up uninstalling for a while going to check back in the future
Pandora's Actor 2022년 9월 5일 오후 11시 50분 
KieSeyHow님이 먼저 게시:
You guys who have the heat issues, you should compare GPU models, perhaps a pattern will emerge? On this system the game (mostly max quality as some things I don't like turned on) the GPU heats to the mid-50's degrees Celsius. Air-cooled blower-type video card, a GTX 970. The game does't make the system work hard at all, CPUs stay about 20% load (dual Xeon workstation). I am curious if those of you whom have heat issues, can find parallelisms with hardware. Perhaps try disabling some of the latest video driver features or running the game on DirectX 11 to see if that fixes the issue.
i find it odd that your gpu only goes till 50c do you have airco running?

mine is a 2070 super from gigabyte. 3 fan card. and this is the only game that heats it up. my cpu is the 3800xt being cooled by an arctic liquid freezer ll which is doing an amazing job with any game but this. so i highly doubt there is a correlation between my gpu and cpu and theirs.


edit

i just thought of something. everyone that doesnt have an issue are they perhaps using old hardware? like 900 series and below and older cpus?
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