Wolfs spiders FAR TOO EASY NOW but still fun to fight!

[Dreadliane]

https://youtu.be/jfyixvuZiqY
https://youtu.be/DBuogKeDaVU
https://youtu.be/PtipnVeivOY
https://youtu.be/JigQyhgaTh0
https://youtu.be/4j9Cyr1_52c

Patch 0.2.0
Changes / Tuning
Combat

Buffed damage on the Spider Fang Dagger so it's on the higher end of tier 2 weapons.
Buffed damage on Spike Traps significantly.
Spiders learned a new set of attacks to choose from instead of just their basic bite.
Added a brief forced delay between block start events, preventing the player from perfect-blocking by mashing the block button.
Slightly reduced the bonus damage given by the Eyepatch.
Adjusting larva blade poison proc so it's consistent.
Reducing the stun ratings of two-handed weapons.
Slightly reducing amount of damage the mint mallet deals so it's in line with tier progression.
Tier 2 insects now have a cooldown after being stunned before they can be stunned again.
Perfect Blocking no longer reduces armor durability.

Some nice changes with the perfect block not reducing armor durability.

Nerfed mint mallet damage,nerfed eyepatch damage,nerfed stun value on 2 handed weapons.

Used to stun a wolf in 4 hits with mint mallet now takes 6.

Im sorry but wolfs and orb weavers are entirely too easy to kill now more than ever. Lets talk about the wolf. He now has 4 attacks in his arsenal. The jumping bite,the regular bite,the lunging bite,the quad bite. I don't think the spiders ai is good enough to determine the best time to use any of their attacks. They were more difficult to kill before when they only had 2 attacks to use. Now they have new attacks and the animation for the quad bite in particular takes way to long for the spider to complete. I spend most of my time behind the spider watching them attack air. We still only rarely need to perfect block as you can make them miss 90% of their attacks.

Imo they will need to revert the changes or take away the quad bite. Or change it to where if the spider misses you with that attack he doesn't continue to keep biting at nothing. The lunging bite is stupid easy to dodge without even trying. They lung past you and it's more free damage in their ♥♥♥.

I don't know what they will do next but imho spiders did not get harder like that claimed. They got easier. They are more interesting and I like that they have more attacks but simply due to their ai being basically basic af they don't pose much of a challenge or threat. I primarily make combat videos and now with how easy they are it's not really enjoyable anymore. I feel like I'm picking on them. Spiders only remotely have a chance to hit you if you stand directly in front of them and let them have a second to lock onto you but why would you ever give them that chance?

Not sure what direction the devs want to go. They still can't force us to use the perfect block mechanic as it's still not needed 90% of the time.

R.I.P semi formidable spiders. Lets see what changes next month.

spider fang dagger is OP and it might get a nerf because of that. Or an hp buff of all bugs.

[}OA{ Gh0st Stalker]

Too ez, too hard. The customer is never satisfied.

[Dreadliane]

Well they want feed back bro. I guess you can call this a complaint if you want. It's just feed back. I am just one random player of the game. I don't talk bad about the company or their practices. It's simply discussion forum. So it's just my documentation and area to discuss the combat changes.

So yeah I think the change made spiders way too easy. In the devblog they said harder spiders. Imo they opposite is true. I'm just trying to get feedback to see if others feel the same. So if it turns out they need to be tuned again the devs will hear our feedback and keep tuning the game.

[Commander Tom]

No they're not easier. LOL. Before it was permastunned all the way. Now u need to tryhard like yourself.

[Progje]

Originally posted by Dreadliane:

Well they want feed back bro. I guess you can call this a complaint if you want. It's just feed back. I am just one random player of the game. I don't talk bad about the company or their practices. It's simply discussion forum. So it's just my documentation and area to discuss the combat changes.

So yeah I think the change made spiders way too easy. In the devblog they said harder spiders. Imo they opposite is true. I'm just trying to get feedback to see if others feel the same. So if it turns out they need to be tuned again the devs will hear our feedback and keep tuning the game.

Like i said before in another post, what means the difficulty if you can 'çheese' every bug in this game anyway. They get stuck all the time and you can just shoot them like it's nothing. Coffee in 1 hand, and shoot with the other.

All this, even on Whoa!

[Triggerhappy]

I've noticed they're a lot easier to sidestep now. Tracking seems to be on the player's location from the start of the attack animation rather than their current position.

[}OA{ Gh0st Stalker]

Originally posted by Dreadliane:

Well they want feed back bro. I guess you can call this a complaint if you want. It's just feed back. I am just one random player of the game. I don't talk bad about the company or their practices. It's simply discussion forum. So it's just my documentation and area to discuss the combat changes.

So yeah I think the change made spiders way too easy. In the devblog they said harder spiders. Imo they opposite is true. I'm just trying to get feedback to see if others feel the same. So if it turns out they need to be tuned again the devs will hear our feedback and keep tuning the game.

You're right, my bad. This was like the 5th post about the new spider's ai.

The orbs def i feel like have gotten more difficult in comparison to the wolf. I just gave up and currently using the get into their faces and smash and block. It has been working for both. It seems the fangs that do the damage can't do damage when your moving towards them.

I would like the old wolfspider ai back. but then i dont know if the method i use would not work.

[GameOverRIP]

Disagree, i started a new game on mild and the Orb Spiders don't relent i setup base on the wooden posts near the big oak and they rarely leave the area and keep agroing from further away then before, take less damage from my strikes, and the blocking tactic seems a bit hit and miss.

Haven't had to battle a Wolf Spider since so can't comment on that.

Also can't use lady bugs as a meat shield, the spiders ignore the ladybug and vice versa

[Dreadliane]

Originally posted by GameOverRIP:

Disagree, i started a new game on mild and the Orb Spiders don't relent i setup base on the wooden posts near the big oak and they rarely leave the area and keep agroing from further away then before, take less damage from my strikes, and the blocking tactic seems a bit hit and miss.

Haven't had to battle a Wolf Spider since so can't comment on that.

Also can't use lady bugs as a meat shield, the spiders ignore the ladybug and vice versa

https://youtu.be/Ig7F0FUhLQs

[Dreadliane]

That orb kill was without the perk that increases punch damage. they are even easier to punch to death than shown in that clip. That perk is actually really nice. Never thought your bare fist would truly be viable but now they are

[Progje]

Originally posted by Dreadliane:

That orb kill was without the perk that increases punch damage. they are even easier to punch to death than shown in that clip. That perk is actually really nice. Never thought your bare fist would truly be viable but now they are

Yep, you can even kill wolf spiders with ur fists. I guess that was even in Whoa! difficulty.

[Dreadliane]

https://youtu.be/DBuogKeDaVU

I'm sad because this is not even impressive. Literally anyone who plays video games can walk up to a spider and kill them in 10 seconds with no real challenge. I have not killed a wolf with only fist buts its on the list.

[Azel]

EZ, still kills you with EZ.
i think they are Hard enought now, no need to be unnecessary hard.

[Mave]

Originally posted by TheeMan:

I feel they are just right not too hard or too easy, maybe that is just me though.

When you have like 3-5 of them on ya you be glad you can kill them faster, Even still though there is work needed for them.

Tell me how you get 3-5 Wolf Spider on your ass. Also funny fact: With a bit of practice more spiders make up to zero difference because they will block each other.

[Mave]

Originally posted by TheeMan:

Its easy as pie to get more spiders on ya when your in the area where they are at.

more of them is harder at least some of the time.

I can see 2 on you if you have 1 on you and you think you can just outrun it and SOMEHOW runto the next one. Now if you talk Orb Weaver, there is that one corner where they sometimes stack up, and i had 3 or even 4 on me, once.

Also all your edits, holy crap. Also this thread is about Wolf Spiders, also you did directly answer to that specific topic. Would be like someone opens a apple thread and i come in and scream oranges. Even if you run like a headless chicken through the area you would either A: get killed long before you have "many" spiders on you or B: lose aggro because you jumped over objects. Just let it go dude this is gettin weird.

[Mave]

Originally posted by TheeMan:

ignoring any more replys to you here.

Why? Because you talk crap, edit 10x and than decide to delete it and reform your whole post? You have problems with the Wolf Spiders, or wait. You think they are "juuuuust right" little goldilocks. You came into the thread about Wolf Spiders being to easy, than you say "Aw mah gawd if you have like 3 or 5 on you D:". And now you say it was never about Wolf Spiders?

Whatever dude, keep editing and try to cover the shame