Low fps

[raymaK]

i had about 8fps on 4k changed it to lower resolution and set everything on low but couldnt get more than 20
even when i changed the cap to 30

is this a demo thing or the main game gonna be the same?

[チェリーパイ CherryPie]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von raymaK:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von チェリーパイ CherryPie:

Aha. Now we're at least getting somewhere. So you ran it on a laptop with a GTX 960M !

Some games have particular issues with mobile graphics cards. Usually an updated version of a driver should be the way to go as a first DIY-attempt. and since the HD 530 only renders GPU applications in desktop mode, and the GTX in 3D applications, it's maybe... - and yes, you didn't want to be reminded, but here it is, anyways - best to check if there is an update for your nvidia card driver.

The latest Version is 446.14, released on the 27th of may 2020. If you haven't installed that driver yet, go ahead and do that.

nvidia is updated
my problem is with the intel driver, should i update it? i wouldve done it an hour ago but it gives a warning im not sure what to do

also my friend told me to update the bios but im not sure thats a good idea

No. That's a bad idea and could run you into more trouble than you need, since your laptop runs on optimus and that software will get the updates itself, when it needs them.

At this point i have no idea either where the problem could be. I mean if you don't have similar problems with other games that are just as demanding, then it is probably a software issue after all but may not be one you can resolve all by yourself.

Other than that, you could try contacting the Quantic Dream Support team and append your full system specs, specific problem you ran into with the game and attach your .dmp file from the game's profile data folder (Found in C:\Users\*YOURUSERNAMEHERE*\Saved Games\HeavyRain demo).

[Roland]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von チェリーパイ CherryPie:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von raymaK:

if you read i said "changed to lower resolution"
and then i said first thing AFTER changing resolution

:)

Your card is definetily to weak to play any game fluid in 4K resolution - especially not through DSR feature.
Try 1080p on highest settings and you should be able to get 60fps with ingame limiting to 60 fps.

A note to add to this: Turn off MSAA. (or turn your resolution way down and crank it. For simplicity's sake, you can think of MSAA as a multiplier of your current resolution, so if you're at 1080p and have MSAAx4, you're essentially running 4k, and like other's said, your card chokes at that point)

[Acquire]

If you really have a gtx 960m, you just need to lower settings. According to this (https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-660/m27242vs2162) your GPU is barely better than a GTX 660, which is listed in the minimum requirements, which are for 720p at 30fps at probably medium settings since they don't mention that part. The original game might be 10 years old, but the PC version on higher settings actually looks pretty good. At 1080p, turn off msaa, turn down lighting, shadows, etc to see if you can get the frame rate higher.

[Stummies]

As others recommended, update the Nvidia drivers (which you did). Try 1080P but reduce/turn off shadows, AA, AF and see if it helps, otherwise drop resolution to 720p and try.

Also, be sure you're laptop settings for Nvidia is actually using that GPU by right-clicking on the desktop and going into the Nvidia control panel. There should be 3d settings section you can setup games with, sometimes it doesn't default to the right GPU. Can also check this by opening task manager and seeing which GPU gets used when playing.

I do not recommend updating the Intel GPU drivers outside of the manufacturer as it can cause problems. I've seen issues where dynamic screen dimming wouldn't disable which made things too low light to see, and also smooth-scrolling issues in browsers where it would hang when using the mouse-wheel to scroll up/down a webpage.

For the BIOS, that is a mixed bag. You might get some improvements, but may not. With all the Spectre/Meltdown stuff you might take a hit if you haven't applied those fixes already. Not recommending not update, just to be aware of the effects of doing so.

Finally, thermal throttling, because you're using a laptop. I've owned laptops with 970, 1070, and my current with a 2070 and they all belch out heat like crazy. If your cooling/fans aren't quite right it can easily rob performance from your machine. This is the nature of the form factor. I use a decent cooling pad and a desk fan to manage heat and generally over around 77-83 when playing modern games for my CPU, GPU normally isn't as bad (thanks Intel i7). Generally I can run stuff fine without all that extra stuff, but high heat over time is my concern. I do not know how well you maintain your equipment, nor if you've ever cleaned it, but given it's a 960M it has to be several years old and likely dusty.

Hope you can play the game. I loved it on my PS3 and loving it all over again.

[raymaK]

ok ill try to lower the resolution as much as possible

but lets do a comparison, i can run witcher 3 at a good 40-50 fps and drops to 30 or so in big cities (people tell me my ram should be 16 for open world games not 12 idk)

but in heavy rain demo i was barely getting 20 it was on 10
and that botters me
at first i thought demo was buggy or something

[raymaK]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von raymaK:

ok ill try to lower the resolution as much as possible

but lets do a comparison, i can run witcher 3 at a good 40-50 fps and drops to 30 or so in big cities (people tell me my ram should be 16 for open world games not 12 idk)

but in heavy rain demo i was barely getting 20 it was on 10
and that botters me
at first i thought demo was buggy or something

at same resolution

[Shona (vincit omnia veritas)]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von raymaK:

ok ill try to lower the resolution as much as possible

but lets do a comparison, i can run witcher 3 at a good 40-50 fps and drops to 30 or so in big cities (people tell me my ram should be 16 for open world games not 12 idk)

but in heavy rain demo i was barely getting 20 it was on 10
and that botters me
at first i thought demo was buggy or something

You can't compare a PC Game and a Console Port. Console Ports are never the same


If i read the System Requirements correctly, the max you can play is on 30 Frames, see pic. -> https://prnt.sc/t2suw7

There is also an Option to limit your frames to 30 or 60 Frames in the graphic settings. You should limit them to 30.

Or go into Graphics -> Advanced Settings and press "V" to auto detect the settings

[LordJamesX]

Guess it is time for you to upgrade the potato!

[raymaK]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shona (vincit omnia veritas):

Ursprünglich geschrieben von raymaK:

ok ill try to lower the resolution as much as possible

but lets do a comparison, i can run witcher 3 at a good 40-50 fps and drops to 30 or so in big cities (people tell me my ram should be 16 for open world games not 12 idk)

but in heavy rain demo i was barely getting 20 it was on 10
and that botters me
at first i thought demo was buggy or something

You can't compare a PC Game and a Console Port. Console Ports are never the same


If i read the System Requirements correctly, the max you can play is on 30 Frames, see pic. -> https://prnt.sc/t2suw7

There is also an Option to limit your frames to 30 or 60 Frames in the graphic settings. You should limit them to 30.

Or go into Graphics -> Advanced Settings and press "V" to auto detect the settings

i already said it
it is on 30 cap :)

[Sur_GalaHad]

a 960m is not going to cut it at all. thats the problem I would steam refund if you still can.

[Shona (vincit omnia veritas)]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sur_GalaHad:

a 960m is not going to cut it at all. thats the problem I would steam refund if you still can.

Why should Steam give him a refund if it is his problem?

The GTX960M is worse than the minimum you need, which is a GTX660 -> https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-660/m27242vs2162

So he clearly did not inform himself before he bought the game and since he had in the Demo only 20 Frames, why did he buy the game anyways?

[チェリーパイ CherryPie]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shona (vincit omnia veritas):

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sur_GalaHad:

a 960m is not going to cut it at all. thats the problem I would steam refund if you still can.

Why should Steam give him a refund if it is his problem?

The GTX960M is worse than the minimum you need, which is a GTX660 -> https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-660/m27242vs2162

So he clearly did not inform himself before he bought the game and since he had in the Demo only 20 Frames, why did he buy the game anyways?

He didn't buy the game and only tested the demo. Instead, he wanted our help to determine whether he should risk buying the full game or not.

[raymaK]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shona (vincit omnia veritas):

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sur_GalaHad:

a 960m is not going to cut it at all. thats the problem I would steam refund if you still can.

Why should Steam give him a refund if it is his problem?

The GTX960M is worse than the minimum you need, which is a GTX660 -> https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-660/m27242vs2162

So he clearly did not inform himself before he bought the game and since he had in the Demo only 20 Frames, why did he buy the game anyways?

as the next post said i havnt bought it and it seems i wont


but even if i do i CAN refund if ive played less than 2 hours and before 2 weeks no matter what

i can refund after 2 week or over 2 hours if there is a problem that is not mine

[raymaK]

one last question

does reinstalling windows help?

i havent done that for over 4 years
but other than the game i have no reason to do it