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For $50 I've played and enjoyed this game for 60 hours (and counting).
Even if a movie costs $8 where you live, this game is still a massively better value proposition. Your mileage may vary but games always beat movies and yet people happily set their money on fire to go on dates.
Ya'll need to stop projecting your close minded ideas on economics on other people. We create our own economic value. I'm sorry if you don't enjoy rhythm games enough to consider the pricing absurd, but that only applies to you.
I spent $90 on Elite Dangerous (game + expansion), $350 on peripherals (HOTAS + VR Headset), $400 on a simulation chair, and I've played it for over a thousand hours (not all logged on Steam). I've gotten *way more* than my money's worth out of those investments.
I'm not comparing this to non-keysounded games (like what OP used as example). Keysounded games where each key has to have a sample mapped to it, is apparently harder (read: in cash) to develop but provides a different experience.
Something that I would suggest is to provide a 20-song demo priced at like $10. Or to an extreme, an online ladder match only version for that price, given people have to pay for practicing.
I'm not even a fanboy, lol. My only prior experience with this franchise was the Technika arcade series, and that was years ago. I could have bought DJMAX Trilogy. I could have bought a PSP and all the Portable games. But I didn't, because at that time I had less income and couldn't afford it. And at that time, I didn't go on reddit or some other board to complain that the price of the games were absurd.
You bring up a lot of meaningful points, but since you're directing some degree of hostility at me I'll respond to those points by pushing them aside:
All I said is that individuals decide for themselves what is economically valuable to them. I never said anything to the affect of: You should love this game and think it's worth it or you're a bad person.
I would just as quickly criticize someone complaining about the price of a game I absolutely hate, because it's neither my place, nor theirs, nor yours, to decide for any individual what monetary price is absurd or not.
If you buy this game, or any other product that you can easily learn about by utilizing online resources, such as youtube videos, previous threads, making your own to ask questions about said product, product reviews, and the like, and find yourself disappointed by a detail like always-online or invasive and unnecessary anticheat and go back to complain about it rather than simply getting a refund and going on with your life rather than making a big deal out of it, I'm going to call you out.
If you don't like it in the first place, or if the price is too high for you in the first place, just don't buy it. If you're going to point at lack of regional prices, then OP should do that, too. But OP isn't specifying that they're complaining about regional pricing. Am I unreasonable to make no assumptions and take OP's post at face value?
If you bought the game, didn't like it, and got your refund, you got to experience the game for free, and the only thing you aren't getting back is your time.
I'm the last person you should be calling a fanboy, lmao. Don't make assumptions about people.
Destiny 2 Shadowfall deluxe was priced $19 and when the game launched Forsaken dlc was priced $30 I mentioned this and few gamers started mocking, get a job, if you don't want to buy don't buy some response were even worse. 5-6 days after game launch price for Forsaken dlc was fixed and it came down to $6.
Also I have seen games price getting hiked like Thronebreakers $9 day 1 to $35 day 2 while China gets to keep the Original regional pricing.
For this game, prices for regions with regional pricing are messed up.
First time seeing regions that should get regional pricing is given high price and those that don't need is getting it.
Countries like S korea, UK, Canada are getting better price while countries like Indonesia and in South Asia etc are getting high price for this game.
I didn't mention regional pricing but still is it OK to price like this even for US region for this game.
What I was trying to say they could have made the price of base game better and try to offer more with dlcs, this would have helped even if regional pricing is not followed.
I can buy 90% of indie games on steam for regional pricing and 5-20% AAA games at regional pricing and as for other genre not AAA gets 70-80% regional pricing offer, then why would I pay higher when this game could have gotten better price?
Games I bought without regional pricing from Dec 19 to Feb 20
Red dead Redemption 2, COD Modern Warfare 2019, Cyberpunk 2077. There are many indie games and games not AAA I bought in between, I am pretty sure I can afford this game but don't want to because pricing is absurd. Gameplay may be good and game has more to offer but pricing is not right.
I can agree to disagree. Can you?
Because to me and many other people the price of this game (relative to US currency) is decidedly not absurd.
That doesn't make it not absurd *for you*, but it being absurd *for you* doesn't make ot absurd *for us*, either.
Again, to you and everyone who would think to criticize me and call me a "fanboy": I can agree to disagree. Can you?
Otherwise make your own game and give it away for pennies or for free. What a joke.
I see a game on steam I might like? I buy it. I dislike it? I refund it. Price doesnt matter, If I cant afford it, I save up or wait for a sale. If I dont think its worth what they want, I dont buy it and move on with my life. No need to cry about the price of others hard work.
You either like this genre or you dont. Personally I enjoy the game considerably and its one of steams best offerings. Price is very fair.
Might I suggest you go buy Muse Dash, fantastic game and your wallet might have less issues.
I am pretty sure those who are mocking and telling to get job have to pay at least $60 for CP 2077, I just need to pay $42 and I did that and I own the game and it's priced less than this game.
Just like you guys think you have the right to mock those who try to point out when some publishers just do something like this, the people you mock also has the right to point out to others that it could have been done better, sometimes price changes, as some publishers mistakenly does this kind of things and corrects it if needed but some don't care.
Just tell me is this game bigger than CP 2077, Watchdogs 3, Red dead Redemption 2 if Yes then I don't mind paying $60, when big AAAs get regional pricing or at least 20% less than US price who would pay this game more than US price that to in regions where regional pricing are followed.
I would rather pay $60 for CP 2077 than $60 for Coffee Talk (if publisher of that game price like that just because in that game one can create latte art).
This game is priced lower for developed nations and higher for others that need Regional pricing and I am sure it has nothing to do with game content etc. This game is accurate at least for pricing for Israel like always game is priced higher there. If UK get low price for this game I think give the same price at least to Israel, I have never seen ganers there getting low priced game.
$60 for generic AAA game that's the same as last year's? REAL ♥♥♥♥
not from usa
hell, I didn't even pay for the game - they sent a key.
I'll tell you right now, compared to literally - every single rhythm aciton game on EVERY single platform, this is not badly priced at all.
you're spending near AAA price for ALL songs ( there's not even DLC yet up for the game here, ps4 yes, but not here, don;t even know when or if they send it here )
anyways, as I get off topic here - the price is containing for 150+ songs.
the DLC pack you see here merely unlocks all songs for you, so you don't have to level up to play them. That's what I bought, 10 bucks.
opens up the whole game, i can play what I want from it, and support the devs ( who sent me a key ) neato.
I'll patiently wait while you see how much Groove Coaster coasts for ALL it's dlc and base songs ( you're gonna think DJMAX is cheap after you see it )
Muse dash is slightly better, with not nearly as much content, but 35 bucks for the DLC ( which includes every single past present, and future additions ) and a base game of 3 bucks.
Every other game out there with more than a cool mechanic ( such as Spin Rhythm XD - which is moderately priced, but has less content - mainly due to the unique rhythm action mechanics they came up with
I'm not defending DJMAX for anything it doesn't deserve.
Check out MUSYNX ( which is literally identical to this game ) except MUSYNX doesn't have key-mapped tones, this game does. Nearly every single song has unique keymapping tones ( the sounds that play when you hit the notes ) annnnd it supports some pretty insane MIDI controllers ( those things DJS use to mix music ) as a game controller.
So for people into that, with the gear - this is a neat game to own.
Anyone else is just playing a guitar hero without the controller, or a MUSYNX clone with higher production values, and presentation.
TL;DR - ALL games are expensive, NONE of them are " your right " to own, at ANY price, and the fact you would complain about it is pretty pathetic.
If you live in a poor country, then don't buy a gaming pc, don't buy games - buy food, pay your bills, buy some clothes - don't come onto the luxury internet, with your luxury PC to complain that the luxury entertainment you absolutely don't need costs more than you wanna spend.
how's that for a fair argument?
go fly a kite.
Wrong.
The only thing that is pathetic is how you're so full of yourself. Who are you to tell random people on the internet what they should do and what they not. If you want to consoom - do it. I don't care about other people's money and how they spend it. I mention DLC only to point out how it's working, not because of care for your money. Having no regional prices is bad practice, that's my point. You give yourself too much credit if you think that's an argument. You're just arrogant person trying too hard to protect their favorite title. Talking about being so invested that you're going so low as to call PC/games and internet - luxury. What a joke.
And you're telling me not to make assumptions about people, while you being like this. You're the prime example of hypocrite and elitist.
you kids, I swear to god.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/744060/Groove_Coaster/
https://store.steampowered.com/dlc/744060/Groove_Coaster/
groove coaster ALONE has 103 pieces of dlc, at 1.99 EACH.
and this game has 150 tracks withouth even ADDING Dlc, for 50- bucks
you're right, DJMAX is just overpriced.
literal DJMAX wannabe
https://store.steampowered.com/app/952040/MUSYNX/
https://store.steampowered.com/dlc/952040/MUSYNX/
*[edit - added MUSYNX dlc page ]
top review
https://steamcommunity.com/id/prokontol/recommended/952040/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/774171/Muse_Dash/
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ugh, I broke down all the math and everything, and that last edit lost the entire part of the post I wanted to leave!~
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firstly - this is FAR from my " favorite title " look athow much time I have in it, dude. I just do not have the time to play this in addition to everything else I play. I see they have good production, lots of customization, some online features which work pretty decent - and yeah, super comparative pricing.
my breakdown got vanished, you can do the math yourself igf you l;iek - but
Groove coaster with ALL dlc and base game is about 220$, 170 if you bought every single DLC pack only when it was on sale.
Muse dash and all DLC is abotu 30 $ forever, they aren't adding anythign else to pay for - anythign they add is yours, they also give out free tracks every week for ppl that don't buy DLC )
MUSYNX has key mapping, but according to all the reviews - it's bad, and the difficulty is terrible. one review says " DJMAX wannabe " another says " well, now that DJMAX is out, there's literally no reason t o play this "
well put.
anyhow - that will run you abbout 3 bucks for the game, and 56$ for it's ambigously named DLC. ( it's linked, peruse for yourself )
DJMAX has one dlc here - 10 $ unlock all songs thing - it doesnt add content, it just lets you skip the EXP grind, so you can play all songs right away.
On PS4 - that same DLC is 15$ ( as is literally all the DLC song packs )
so I can assume those song packs wil be 10$ a piece when they come here ( and IF they come here, that is )
there's 6 DLC packs ( i checked online, maybe I'm incorrect, you can always google yourself instead of launching ad hominems and whatnot )
assuming you buy all 6 future DLC packs at 10 a piece, thats 50 for the game, and 60 for all DLC that exists, 110$
that's cheaper than groove coaster.
noew, assume all that DLC is 15 instead>
so 15 x 6 90$ so 90 + 50 = 140$
hey, that's STILL cheaper than Groove coaster with all dlc, and that's including if you bought groove coaster itslef on sale ( a rare thing ) and every single dlc bundle 4 pack when they came out on sale.
so I'm loving this proof of how I'm wrong.
here's my literal proof to show you just how " wrong " I am when I say:
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DJMAX RESPECT V IS FAIRLY PRICED AS A RHYTHM ACTION GAME
cheers