Mini races?

[themazingness]

They're in the patch notes, but I didn't see anything that looked like a mini race when I went to try the race. The only option was the main one. Am I missing/misunderstanding something?

[YMFTCTB]

mini races and a few other things come out tomorrow if i heard right

[PichuYang]

Update your game, make sure it is version 25.0.
Then, click Race icon, check Leaderboard. Open your eyes on top section.
Obviously you need to make a successful run in order to register score.

[themazingness]

Originally posted by CatChu:

Update your game, make sure it is version 25.0.
Then, click Race icon, check Leaderboard. Open your eyes on top section.
Obviously you need to make a successful run in order to register score.

Thanks. It wasn't obvious though. I thought it'd be a separate thing and was hoping it'd be something more accessible to those of us that don't care for how the standard races work.

[PichuYang]

Originally posted by themazingness:

Thanks. It wasn't obvious though.

What do you mean? There are only 3 buttons. Out of curiosity you could have clicked Leaderboard to see how others perform lol.

Originally posted by themazingness:

I thought it'd be a separate thing and was hoping it'd be something more accessible to those of us that don't care for how the standard races work.

That's the whole point of mini-race, to lower the stress since you aren't competing with bunch of whales. Rather than skipping it, you would rather reconsider completing it in slower pace. You get more Trophies, anyway, that's what we care lol.

[themazingness]

Originally posted by CatChu:

Originally posted by themazingness:

Thanks. It wasn't obvious though.

What do you mean? There are only 3 buttons. Out of curiosity you could have clicked Leaderboard to see how others perform lol.

Originally posted by themazingness:

I thought it'd be a separate thing and was hoping it'd be something more accessible to those of us that don't care for how the standard races work.

That's the whole point of mini-race, to lower the stress since you aren't competing with bunch of whales. Rather than skipping it, you would rather reconsider completing it in slower pace. You get more Trophies, anyway, that's what we care lol.

I didn't want the leaderboard. I wasn't curious at all about the leader board because I'm apathetic about the races. I wanted to start a mini race.

Meh, you still have to complete the main one which still isn't for me so I just won't really care about the mini ones. To each there own. I agree it is great that there is a more casual option to earn trophies via races.

[PichuYang]

Originally posted by themazingness:

Meh, you still have to complete the main one which still isn't for me.

The main purpose of race mode is to introduce some competition within this game. Mini-race is to introduce a smaller scale of competition. How small it is? I don't know. Maybe it is small enough to sustain a casual playerbase?

I understand that your expectation is something like on every map, I can just choose Race mode and do it. But, a race is called a "Race" for reasons. Even a Charity Marathon is still consider as a "Race". You don't have to win, you just have to try. That's the spirit of the sports, either physical or digital. We actually need this kind of positive spirit, and mini-Race is a better execution. Don't you agree with this perspective?

Rather than driving away from Workshop, some kind of motivation to tell casual players give a try on this map is good. Maybe they realized that those buttons actually made it only slightly harder than Dark Castle? Who knows?

[themazingness]

Originally posted by CatChu:

You don't have to win, you just have to try. Don't you agree with this perspective?

I do. The reason I don't like races is there is no way to practice without wasting money--real life money or monkey money. This didn't alleviate that at all. I didn't expect it to, but it would've been nice. I don't have to win in the sense of winning against everybody else. I have no problem with money sinks or supporting NK with real money, but just not in the way that's done here.

The fact of the matter is I'm not good at races, and it's hard to git gud when the whole competition works against what I'm able to do. I'm avoiding a compulsive behavior of paying over and over again. Otherwise I'd develop bad habits across the games I play. I know myself enough that this would be true. So this game mode is a nonstarter for me.

[themazingness]

I do think it's great that NK at least did the race passes by the way. But i don't do game subscriptions (again, I know myself and that'd be a budget killer if I allowed myself to do that).

[Vituali]

After the update, when I make my run the score, it doesn't score and I can't go to mini-runs because I haven't completed a run

[PichuYang]

Originally posted by themazingness:

I do. The reason I don't like races is there is no way to practice without wasting money--real life money or monkey money. just not in the way that's done here.

The fact of the matter is I'm not good at races, and it's hard to git gud.

Like real life marathon, if you keep running without understanding the strategy and practicing key aspect, you will still fail. For example, how to preserve stamina and facing mental issue. These can affect your performance.

In this case, it is about knowing how to get enough money on first few waves, snowballing it with micro skill. By micro, it means how fast you can use mouse or fingers to sell, place, upgrade and activate ability. It isn't something done by few weeks.

I highly suggest you practice micro skill somewhere else. Like rhythm game Taiko no Tatsujin, Cytus, MOBA like Dota 2, whatever fits it. Bcs Race Pass is not worth for that purpose.

Originally posted by themazingness:

myself and that'd be a budget killer.

If you want to further support this game, sadly music is a better way:
https://timhaywood.bandcamp.com/

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I am very noob in Race too. I played very carefully and didn't risk. The past experience helped me to at least get Rank 11 in Mini Race with 3.50 min. Very fair. I haven't spend more than 5k in Races.

I highly suggest watch past Race mode in Utube bcs the strategy is very different. Like what others expect, I would agree the ability to play past Race mode without Leaderboard and rewards. Since they share different rules, so they are more like practicing your key skill.

However at the same time, I don't spend unnecessary Monkey Money. I just stockpile and have fun with Daily. Comes to like 253k. I even take Collection Event grind casually. I can understand why Race mode is designed to sink extra money lol. A cursed issue for long time, yet no perfect answer for every kind of players. Either ppl say it is easy to be stonk, or complain P2w. Endless cycle.
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Originally posted by Barry Alien:

After the update, when I make my run the score, it doesn't score

Defeat all waves without losing, make sure you have Internet connection. If problem exist, contact Ninja Kiwi support.

[themazingness]

Yeah, I bought the BTD 5 soundtrack. I think that just supports the composer though, not the dev team. I've bought things in the past though, BATTD heros and monkey farmer, a couple of BTD 5 skins, etc. Nothing here fits my spending rules for IAP though.

A past races mode would be awesome, and I think that'd be enough for me to get into it. I've watched YouTube a couple of times to win, but that isn't really fulfilling. I like to figure out strategies on my own. Though I'll watch something to learn from good players in strategy games sometimes. Age of Empires is my main game series right now. It isn't an issue of learning to micro. It's an issue with literally having no way to practice without paying.

[PichuYang]

Originally posted by themazingness:

Yeah, I bought the BTD 5 soundtrack. I think that just supports the composer though, not the dev team.

A past races mode would be awesome, and I think that'd be enough for me to get into it. I've watched YouTube a couple of times to win, but that isn't really fulfilling.

It actually feels like if you paid this game for like 1 dollar during big sales, you got everything out from this game already, unlike other games. Really nothing else except composer lol. Composer gets more money, just a joke.

I feels like they didn't add past Race mode just because of how aggressive we could be to indirectly farms Money when playing Daily and Collection Event. But I still find it fair just to practice the micro of this game just bcs it feels so different.

Good to know that this conversation to be healthy, and you play Age of Empire, maybe you're referring to AoE 2? I heard AoE 4 news from SpiritoftheLaw and watching T90 casts on AoE 2. I just don't play RTS much nowadays until I dropped my "perfectionist" behaviour XD.

[themazingness]

Originally posted by CatChu:

Originally posted by themazingness:

Yeah, I bought the BTD 5 soundtrack. I think that just supports the composer though, not the dev team.

A past races mode would be awesome, and I think that'd be enough for me to get into it. I've watched YouTube a couple of times to win, but that isn't really fulfilling.

It actually feels like if you paid this game for like 1 dollar during big sales, you got everything out from this game already, unlike other games. Really nothing else except composer lol. Composer gets more money, just a joke.

I feels like they didn't add past Race mode just because of how aggressive we could be to indirectly farms Money when playing Daily and Collection Event. But I still find it fair just to practice the micro of this game just bcs it feels so different.

Good to know that this conversation to be healthy, and you play Age of Empire, maybe you're referring to AoE 2? I heard AoE 4 news from SpiritoftheLaw and watching T90 casts on AoE 2. I just don't play RTS much nowadays until I dropped my "perfectionist" behaviour XD.

Bloons is an amazing game series, worth every amount I've paid including back when it was just a Flash game series. I still play co-op with a buddy I was roommates with in college. We played BTD5 back then. If BTD4 had coop we would've done that too. I have BTD5 on so many platforms. I'd probably have all the achievements if saves applied cross-platform like BTD6 does. I even had BTD5 Deluxe and was sad that we didn't get Watermelon Spitter and the others on Steam when the switch was made.

My main game is Age of Empires Online. The official servers were taken down years ago, but Project Celeste revived it as a fan server. A bunch of cool guys, some of whom are moderators for the official Age of Empires community keep it alive and even add to the game. They even added a new civ recently, Romans, and a new end game campaign for all civs based in Rome. Microsoft's terms allow for the project, so it should be running for a long time.

AoE 2 is actually my least favorite, mostly due to friendly fire existing for range siege units and civilizations being too similar to each other. That's the favorite child though, getting tons of expansions and mods. I play the events as they come up. One of these days I need to play through the campaigns (it's the only one I don't have those finished on though I've done a few). After that I'll have to work through the spinoffs (the China expansion for Age of Mythology since I've done the rest, Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds, and Halo Wars). I play the first AoE once in a while, but sadly they haven't added new content to it.

AoE 3 was my main before I got back into AoEO. I still love it! I play the events for it too and play it for fun when I need something different from AoEO.

I'm excited for AoE4. My profile picture is an AoE4 selfie done using Microsoft's fan preview website. I loved seeing the in the previews! I suspect Online and 3 will still be my favorites over it though.