Primary towers lack good camo detection.

[Entropy]

U need town most of the time. Ice one's is rarely useful and u use it for damage amplication anyway, only dart monkey is left which helps itself. Boomerang's middle path x4x sees camo but only for a short amount of time and it is behind monkey knowledge.

New primary tower will be water based and will not save itself but at least give it "remove" camo or reveal permanent sth like that.

[Poob]

I use dart monkey to try get paragon and me never get 150k money before sandbox and me sad

[Lanosa]

Ninja Zyborg lähetti viestin:

Juggernaut can damage DDTs, but it has garbage MOAB damage. Same with GLord without camo detection.

Looks like you didn't tried the advanced challenge to beat round 163 with only 1 turret and no natural camo detection :) just saying.

Also you didn't tried juggernauth in closed maps, where it's strong.

[KingKickAss]

Bottom path dart monkey. "Primary Only" game mode only goes up to round 40 so if you're going past that, then you're simply challenging yourself. Which would then make Ice Monkey a part of said challenge.

[Joshua Kurayami]

Annihilation lähetti viestin:

U all play on ez maps? Ice tower misses a lot in lots of maps lol. Unless u spam it, it is unreliable by a large margin. Magic or support towers is superior. It is useless, lots of chimps guide does not use top path. Lots of guides dont use it. So why are u defending it? Where u can show me a useful late game map of ice monkey, i can show u better with another monkey lol

Dart monkey has one of the worst tier 5 for now and it only sees it for itself so;)

If you need a guide or have to constantly rely on whatever is considered better, OP, or whatever is the new tower meta, then it sounds more like you have a skill issue.

Also if you think dart monkey has the worst T5, then you obviously haven't used beast handler's top path.

[Stripey]

Xbow Master handles all the way to Wave 100 pretty well (with some support past 80) IMO. He falls off very quickly afterwards, though.

Plus if you're using MK you can have two and he's pretty cheap.

[Atomsk]

Is Galive Lord even good? I always just use the permaboost one 0-5-2

[Ninja Zyborg]

Lanosa lähetti viestin:

Ninja Zyborg lähetti viestin:

Juggernaut can damage DDTs, but it has garbage MOAB damage. Same with GLord without camo detection.

Looks like you didn't tried the advanced challenge to beat round 163 with only 1 turret and no natural camo detection :) just saying.

Also you didn't tried juggernauth in closed maps, where it's strong.

163 doesn't have MOAB class bloons, and Juggernaut is still bad moab damage even in closed maps. Ultra-Juggernaut does good moab damage in closed maps though.