Primary towers lack good camo detection.

[Entropy]

U need town most of the time. Ice one's is rarely useful and u use it for damage amplication anyway, only dart monkey is left which helps itself. Boomerang's middle path x4x sees camo but only for a short amount of time and it is behind monkey knowledge.

New primary tower will be water based and will not save itself but at least give it "remove" camo or reveal permanent sth like that.

[Vivianite]

dart monkey is all you need, combo it with ice monkey and you're literally ez gg

[Ninja Zyborg]

I dont see the problem

[Martin]

top path ice is decamo so that helps, on most maps you can do r100 primary only without too much problem because 1-2 embrit each entrance is enough

[Cassie the Loot Goblin]

yes? i think you missed the idea of primary towers. they sacrifice utility for simplicity and reliability, so camo detection is not always available. that being said, dart and ice monkey can both get camo detection pretty quickly, and the top path for the monkey village is there to say "hey, maybe surround me with primary towers".

[Joshua Kurayami]

You don't know how to use ice if you think ice is rarely useful, when it's basically the only primary tower that can wipe out camo from enemies (top path), while also dealing with masses of bloons and, yeah, amplify damage.

Also where did you get the idea of water tower being primary? All they said is that it's not going to be military, so for all we know it could also be magic or support.

[Entropy]

U all play on ez maps? Ice tower misses a lot in lots of maps lol. Unless u spam it, it is unreliable by a large margin. Magic or support towers is superior. It is useless, lots of chimps guide does not use top path. Lots of guides dont use it. So why are u defending it? Where u can show me a useful late game map of ice monkey, i can show u better with another monkey lol

Dart monkey has one of the worst tier 5 for now and it only sees it for itself so;)

[Stoic]

I think the only times this is even a little bit of an issue is in "primary only" modes which only goes to round 40. Primary is mainly for early game, setting up, etc, with the rare exception like 0-0-4 boomer and 0-0-4 glue gunner. They are the primary towers, the simplest ones. Just like support is mainly for supporting other towers, magic is for magic based effects, and military all share a bond of good DPS and at least one form of infinite range. Everything has it's use, and primary tower's use isn't to go late game with all the camo detec and buffs. If you really wanna use primary, get a 4-2-0 monkey village for the primary buffs and camo detec.

[GGcake]

When are they gonna give my boy boom a rang man some loving?

[Lanosa]

x-x-2 dart monkey. You're welcome :)

[My Right Toe]

Unless you exclusively play primary only I do not see the problem with this

[GGcake]

The tower monkey is good cuz it can give camo detection but also boost primary towers

[Stripey]

Glaive Lord's spinning glaives hit camo. You can also hit camo with 2-4-0 Glue

[imag2OOO]

Originally posted by My Right Toe:

Unless you exclusively play primary only I do not see the problem with this

even then primary only is a 40 round so u only need a single dart to kill all camo

[Lanosa]

Originally posted by imag2OOO:

Originally posted by My Right Toe:

Unless you exclusively play primary only I do not see the problem with this

even then primary only is a 40 round so u only need a single dart to kill all camo

4-0-2 dart monkey (Leviathan) and 5-0-2 boomerang (Glaive lord) pop camo lead in round 59, and even DDTs.

[Ninja Zyborg]

Originally posted by Lanosa:

Originally posted by imag2OOO:

even then primary only is a 40 round so u only need a single dart to kill all camo

4-0-2 dart monkey (Leviathan) and 5-0-2 boomerang (Glaive lord) pop camo lead in round 59, and even DDTs.

Juggernaut can damage DDTs, but it has garbage MOAB damage. Same with GLord without camo detection.