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Red Sword Apr 24, 2023 @ 6:30pm
Paragons are taking too long to release
In August, 2021, update 27.0 went live, introducing boss bloons and paragons. The latter is what I really want to discuss. So in that update, the Apex Plasma Master and Glaive Dominus were introduced to BTD6. Next update came the Ascended Shadow.The following update, Navarch of the Seas. I think you see the consistency here.

In 2021, in just 5 months, 4 paragons came into BTD6.

Next year in 2022, it took 8 months to release the next paragon, the Master Builder, in update 32.0, 3 updates after Navarch of the Seas (and we all remember waiting on 32.0 for what felt like forever)
Then, directly in the next update came the Goliath Doomship. Which currently is still the latest paragon in the game because no following updates brought a new paragon. 33.0 released in October 2022, so only 2 paragons came in 2022 in one year. Compare that to 4 in just 5 months and you'll see things have drastically slowed down.

I am aware the the Wizard paragon is coming the next update, 37.0, but that's 4 updates the update that brought us the Goliath Doomship, which is also a 7-month gap (assuming it releases in June)

Ninja Kiwi really needs to step their game/pace on this for the future. I know they said they can't release a new paragon every update, but every 2 updates sounds reasonable. Only 6 out of currently 23 towers have paragons. While I'm unsure if all towers will get a paragon, if this rate keeps up, by the time that happens would be 5+ years later.
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randomguy Apr 24, 2023 @ 6:43pm 
anyone who expected or expects the paragons to come out quickly is a fool. Ninja kiwi is actually holding themselves to standards now.
Red Sword Apr 24, 2023 @ 8:23pm 
Originally posted by randomguy:
anyone who expected or expects the paragons to come out quickly is a fool.
I'm not expecting that. I am saying that they NK is releasing them way too slowly, especially compared to 2021, and need to pick up the pace
Henfor Apr 24, 2023 @ 10:07pm 
A smaller dev cycle for PARAGONS? the feature only really boss runners use, an already dividing part of the playerbase. It's not needed for the game's survival, won't get the most money and time put into it.
randomguy Apr 24, 2023 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by Red Sword:
Originally posted by randomguy:
anyone who expected or expects the paragons to come out quickly is a fool.
I'm not expecting that. I am saying that they NK is releasing them way too slowly, especially compared to 2021, and need to pick up the pace
it's almost like they spent most of that time working on a new tower that people will use outside of boss events, freeplay and trying it out for 10 minutes
Hiroko Apr 24, 2023 @ 11:16pm 
You're taking too long to release.
Ninja Zyborg Apr 25, 2023 @ 7:35am 
You seem to be missing something important here. Why do all towers need a paragon?
Smokey Apr 25, 2023 @ 9:50am 
Agree with that they are truly slow pokes :P
MaxBlue001 Apr 25, 2023 @ 11:04am 
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't 2021-2022 the start of the covid19 epidemic? Which screwed pretty much everyone, INCLUDING ninja kiwi?

Also, do you really expect everything to be done easily and quickly? Do you even know how much work there is behind each update?
Red Sword Apr 25, 2023 @ 11:20am 
I feel like you guys are missing my point. I know and understand that a lot of work and time goes into a new update, but I'm talking about one aspect of the game. I'm saying that on that one aspect, NK has slowed down too much on it and really should put more into it to speed it up.

I really don't know if every tower will get a paragon, but if that does happen at the current rate of just 2 paragons a year, the last one won't come until nearly 10 years later, and I don't think they should drag BTD6 on for that long. One every two updates instead of 3-4 sounds reasonable
Spookypizza Apr 25, 2023 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Red Sword:
I'm saying that on that one aspect, NK has slowed down too much on it and really should put more into it to speed it up.
Nobody cares about paragons anyway, they are obsolete and should be scrapped from the game entirely,nk do better
Joshua Kurayami Apr 25, 2023 @ 12:36pm 
Eh, I'd rather have new heroes, towers, hero skins, trophy store items, maps, new monkey knowledge, new bloons, new moabs, new difficulty, boss bloons, collection events, odysseys, race time events, quests, daily challenge, advanced challenge, co-op challenge, achievements, easter eggs and other crap that they can release at their own pace over something that I can only get my hands on with a ton of grinding in freeplay or something that I'm forced to get to beat elite boss bloons.
Last edited by Joshua Kurayami; Apr 25, 2023 @ 12:37pm
randomguy Apr 25, 2023 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by Red Sword:
I feel like you guys are missing my point. I know and understand that a lot of work and time goes into a new update, but I'm talking about one aspect of the game. I'm saying that on that one aspect, NK has slowed down too much on it and really should put more into it to speed it up.

I really don't know if every tower will get a paragon, but if that does happen at the current rate of just 2 paragons a year, the last one won't come until nearly 10 years later, and I don't think they should drag BTD6 on for that long. One every two updates instead of 3-4 sounds reasonable

NK has slowed down because most people don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about paragons anymore. More important features such as a whole new event (contested territory) and a new tower (beast handler) were prioritised.
patio.gurnisson Apr 25, 2023 @ 11:01pm 
I think thanks NK for the paragons they provide and the pace at which they provide them. If to improve this I'd prefer some changes to paragons over the increase of pace. For example, I'm missing the ultraboost ability in the engineer paragon. If paragon would allow infinite number of ultraboosts per tower, it would be promising and worth testing in the late game.

Another thing useful for the late game would be the races mode - maybe activated through a power-up or something like that. Those rounds over 140 feel lasting infinitely. Apopalypse helps a bit but last time i tried it game crashed at round 200 :>
MrPayPay Apr 30, 2023 @ 6:31pm 
paragons should be the least of everyone's worries. The fact that we just now got a new tower is kinda stupid. I don't wanna say lack of effort on NK part but c'mon. The lack of content rn is out of this world.
Smokey Apr 30, 2023 @ 11:01pm 
Atleast they could add some maps from btd 5 to give us more replay value
when they hold back on the workshop
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Date Posted: Apr 24, 2023 @ 6:30pm
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