Banned for cheating?

[Suiiiii]

Hi guys, a friend got banned for "Cheating" cause he modded his game and played some different new game modes or something.

He updated the game and removed everything but we can´t play coop. Is it because he is banned?

[Hiroko]

He, in fact, was "cheating." Mods are cheats, even if all it does is change the word "monkey" to "monke."

Tell your 'friend' to remove the cheats, uninstall btd6, restart pc, reinstall btd6, and don't have any cheat software or websites open while playing the game. Removing the mods may also require deleting launch parameters and/or some other step Idr offhead. If the leaves / "modded client detected" doesn't go away, go to modding discords to get help with mod removal, contact ninja kiwi support or make a new account.

[Tsubame ⭐]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Suiiiii:

Hi guys, a friend got banned for "Cheating" cause he modded his game and played some different new game modes or something.

He updated the game and removed everything but we can´t play coop. Is it because he is banned?

If he has the double leaves by the Settings button in the Main Menu screen, yes, he has been leaf-banned. He will be unable to access multiplayer related features, including competitive modes such as races.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hiroko:

even if all it does is change the word "monkey" to "monke."

How so?

The player is not getting an unfair advantage out of it...

That being said, I agree with the rest of the post, and the game is not mod friendly in this regard, best to use mods in a throwaway account, even if the intention is just to play new maps or modes.

[OldGamer]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tsubame ⭐:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Suiiiii:

Hi guys, a friend got banned for "Cheating" cause he modded his game and played some different new game modes or something.

He updated the game and removed everything but we can´t play coop. Is it because he is banned?

If he has the double leaves by the Settings button in the Main Menu screen, yes, he has been leaf-banned. He will be unable to access multiplayer related features, including competitive modes such as races.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hiroko:

even if all it does is change the word "monkey" to "monke."

How so?

The player is not getting an unfair advantage out of it...

That being said, I agree with the rest of the post, and the game is not mod friendly in this regard, best to use mods in a throwaway account, even if the intention is just to play new maps or modes.

The very history of "mods" in video game and even culture (aka the bikers) is "cheating" in base value of the word. You are virtually changing a game to suit YOU and not the developer's ambition. Mods, as in the biker gang, were changing their CLOTHES and their LOOKS in a society that had this idealist attitude towards being a "gentleman" and "citizen" but was an upper class biker subculture from Rockers. Hence why there were a lot of fights in regards to both. (which was over joshed by the media at the time).

Anyway, yes, the very word "mod" is "cheating" in the base value of the word.

[Frost_god7911]

I got banned for using the crosspathing mod in singleplayer 💀

[fractalgem]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von OldGamer:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tsubame ⭐:

If he has the double leaves by the Settings button in the Main Menu screen, yes, he has been leaf-banned. He will be unable to access multiplayer related features, including competitive modes such as races.



How so?

The player is not getting an unfair advantage out of it...

That being said, I agree with the rest of the post, and the game is not mod friendly in this regard, best to use mods in a throwaway account, even if the intention is just to play new maps or modes.

The very history of "mods" in video game and even culture (aka the bikers) is "cheating" in base value of the word. You are virtually changing a game to suit YOU and not the developer's ambition. Mods, as in the biker gang, were changing their CLOTHES and their LOOKS in a society that had this idealist attitude towards being a "gentleman" and "citizen" but was an upper class biker subculture from Rockers. Hence why there were a lot of fights in regards to both. (which was over joshed by the media at the time).

Anyway, yes, the very word "mod" is "cheating" in the base value of the word.

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I don't buy what you're spewing, and consider myself hostile to your ridiculous interpretation of the word cheating. Mod is short for modification AFAIK. Cheating is more than just modifying the rules. If two players sit down and agree to play a variant of chess where kings get queen movement, it ISN"T then cheating for one of them to move their king like a queen. If they DIDN"T have this agreement, THEN it would be cheating. Cheating implies a breach of contract between players.


THat said, bloons is alarmingly aggressive about considering any mod whatsoever to be "cheating", even if you stick to single player, so yeah...use a throway account for your mods.

[Frost_god7911]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von fractalgem:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von OldGamer:

The very history of "mods" in video game and even culture (aka the bikers) is "cheating" in base value of the word. You are virtually changing a game to suit YOU and not the developer's ambition. Mods, as in the biker gang, were changing their CLOTHES and their LOOKS in a society that had this idealist attitude towards being a "gentleman" and "citizen" but was an upper class biker subculture from Rockers. Hence why there were a lot of fights in regards to both. (which was over joshed by the media at the time).

Anyway, yes, the very word "mod" is "cheating" in the base value of the word.

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I don't buy what you're spewing, and consider myself hostile to your ridiculous interpretation of the word cheating. Mod is short for modification AFAIK. Cheating is more than just modifying the rules. If two players sit down and agree to play a variant of chess where kings get queen movement, it ISN"T then cheating for one of them to move their king like a queen. If they DIDN"T have this agreement, THEN it would be cheating. Cheating implies a breach of contract between players.


THat said, bloons is alarmingly aggressive about considering any mod whatsoever to be "cheating", even if you stick to single player, so yeah...use a throway account for your mods.

I agree with this guy

[Ninja Zyborg]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von fractalgem:

THat said, bloons is alarmingly aggressive about considering any mod whatsoever to be "cheating", even if you stick to single player, so yeah...use a throway account for your mods.

The game cant tell the difference between a balanced mod, a visual mod, and a cheat mod. Therefore, it just lumps them all together.

[Spawnling]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ninja Zyborg:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von fractalgem:

THat said, bloons is alarmingly aggressive about considering any mod whatsoever to be "cheating", even if you stick to single player, so yeah...use a throway account for your mods.

The game cant tell the difference between a balanced mod, a visual mod, and a cheat mod. Therefore, it just lumps them all together.

I think they sarted to be so aggressive in order to protect the part of the community that enjoys competing in races.

[user]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von OldGamer:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tsubame ⭐:

If he has the double leaves by the Settings button in the Main Menu screen, yes, he has been leaf-banned. He will be unable to access multiplayer related features, including competitive modes such as races.



How so?

The player is not getting an unfair advantage out of it...

That being said, I agree with the rest of the post, and the game is not mod friendly in this regard, best to use mods in a throwaway account, even if the intention is just to play new maps or modes.

The very history of "mods" in video game and even culture (aka the bikers) is "cheating" in base value of the word. You are virtually changing a game to suit YOU and not the developer's ambition. Mods, as in the biker gang, were changing their CLOTHES and their LOOKS in a society that had this idealist attitude towards being a "gentleman" and "citizen" but was an upper class biker subculture from Rockers. Hence why there were a lot of fights in regards to both. (which was over joshed by the media at the time).

Anyway, yes, the very word "mod" is "cheating" in the base value of the word.

blud what are you talking about here, a mod is a modification, alot of the time mods are just for fun, cheating is when you give yourself an unfair advantage

[user]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von fractalgem:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von OldGamer:

The very history of "mods" in video game and even culture (aka the bikers) is "cheating" in base value of the word. You are virtually changing a game to suit YOU and not the developer's ambition. Mods, as in the biker gang, were changing their CLOTHES and their LOOKS in a society that had this idealist attitude towards being a "gentleman" and "citizen" but was an upper class biker subculture from Rockers. Hence why there were a lot of fights in regards to both. (which was over joshed by the media at the time).

Anyway, yes, the very word "mod" is "cheating" in the base value of the word.

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I don't buy what you're spewing, and consider myself hostile to your ridiculous interpretation of the word cheating. Mod is short for modification AFAIK. Cheating is more than just modifying the rules. If two players sit down and agree to play a variant of chess where kings get queen movement, it ISN"T then cheating for one of them to move their king like a queen. If they DIDN"T have this agreement, THEN it would be cheating. Cheating implies a breach of contract between players.


THat said, bloons is alarmingly aggressive about considering any mod whatsoever to be "cheating", even if you stick to single player, so yeah...use a throway account for your mods.

this guy knows what hes talking about

[lucascuri2809]

hello

[Vivianite]

if you mod you get bwoinked, no exceptions here, none. even if it's "for fun"

[Create@Review(Ravire)]

It's already been mentioned but yes if you delete the modded content reinstall the game etc you might be able to get pass the soft ban. That being said this game doesn't have a mod friendly look due to how multiplayer has a few competitive modes so if it detects anything it'll soft ban. As suggested by another user a throw away account would be a good idea for games like these if your friend wishes to play modded content on unfriendly games towards mods. Hope your friend can get thru the soft ban but at the same time I see the devs side to be logical.

[Tsubame ⭐]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von dart monkey (sus):

Ursprünglich geschrieben von OldGamer:

The very history of "mods" in video game and even culture (aka the bikers) is "cheating" in base value of the word. You are virtually changing a game to suit YOU and not the developer's ambition. Mods, as in the biker gang, were changing their CLOTHES and their LOOKS in a society that had this idealist attitude towards being a "gentleman" and "citizen" but was an upper class biker subculture from Rockers. Hence why there were a lot of fights in regards to both. (which was over joshed by the media at the time).

Anyway, yes, the very word "mod" is "cheating" in the base value of the word.

blud what are you talking about here, a mod is a modification, alot of the time mods are just for fun, cheating is when you give yourself an unfair advantage

I do agree with you, but unfortunately that is not how the developers see it, as someone else pointed above the game cannot differentiate between different kinds of mods and just treats all of them as the same instead. Of course, the fact the game does have some competitive multiplayer elements AND ingame purchases is part of the equation.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von OldGamer:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tsubame ⭐:

If he has the double leaves by the Settings button in the Main Menu screen, yes, he has been leaf-banned. He will be unable to access multiplayer related features, including competitive modes such as races.



How so?

The player is not getting an unfair advantage out of it...

That being said, I agree with the rest of the post, and the game is not mod friendly in this regard, best to use mods in a throwaway account, even if the intention is just to play new maps or modes.

The very history of "mods" in video game and even culture (aka the bikers) is "cheating" in base value of the word. You are virtually changing a game to suit YOU and not the developer's ambition. Mods, as in the biker gang, were changing their CLOTHES and their LOOKS in a society that had this idealist attitude towards being a "gentleman" and "citizen" but was an upper class biker subculture from Rockers. Hence why there were a lot of fights in regards to both. (which was over joshed by the media at the time).

Anyway, yes, the very word "mod" is "cheating" in the base value of the word.

Cheating by its own definition is done to get an unfair advantage. By unfair, this has to be at someone's else expense.

Unless you are playing competitive single player as in a speed run, there is no cheating in single player games.

And mods can make a game much more flexible and enjoyable to play. Not necessarily easier as well, depending on the mod in question they can make the game harder. This is not one such game, but others are quite mod-centric, such as Transport Fever 2 or Cities Skylines.

[fractalgem]

Minecraft's another good example. Some of the mods and modpacks almost treat minecraft as more a game engine to develop in rather than a game to modify.