Good towers to get into high rounds?

[khani]

i really can't get a little over 100 and than i die, any good towers i should use or any tips on how to safe monety for tier 5's without dying

[Ninja Zyborg]

banana farm

[Colin]

Banana Farm + Monkey Village

[khani]

Originally posted by CGColin:

Banana Farm + Monkey Village

What would be the best upgrades for em?

[FαllenAngel]

if you are fine with collect bananas, to should upgrade it to 4/2/0 or if you are to lazy use 2/0/4. Monkey Village is good to give camo detection to towers without them (0/2/0 upgrade village). Good strategy for beginner maps is to use 0/2/4 wizard and 4/2/0 alchemist very close to him, and next upgrade wizard to 0/2/5 and on the end of the road place spike factory 0/2/5 with another alchemist 4/2/0. extra money you can spend on boccaneer 5/2/0 with village 0/2/0 or if there is no water, monkey ace 2/0/4 with village 0/2/0 and alchemist 4/2/0.

[love chucky]

Originally posted by VEVERiku:

if you are fine with collect bananas, to should upgrade it to 4/2/0 or if you are to lazy use 2/0/4. Monkey Village is good to give camo detection to towers without them (0/2/0 upgrade village). Good strategy for beginner maps is to use 0/2/4 wizard and 4/2/0 alchemist very close to him, and next upgrade wizard to 0/2/5 and on the end of the road place spike factory 0/2/5 with another alchemist 4/2/0. extra money you can spend on boccaneer 5/2/0 with village 0/2/0 or if there is no water, monkey ace 2/0/4 with village 0/2/0 and alchemist 4/2/0.

wait is 2/0/4 even worth it? i never seen a difference

[love chucky]

for farm

[⚡Baumfall⚡]

Vengeful True Sun God
There are pently of tutorials on youtube how you can get it. This and Permabrew, Ultraboost, Homeland, BMA, Brickell / Ezili and Grand Sabo will go on for a while.

[erinthecute]

if you have solid defences by round 40 (good firepower with enough variety to cover all your bases - moabs, camos/camo leads, etc) you can pretty much dedicate rounds 40-90 to farming, making sure to update your defences before 63, 76/78, and 80. just put all your money into building farms. if you do it right you can afford like 5 tier 5s by round 100, depending on which ones you want to get of course. you can keep snowballing from there with more farms.

[Ninja Zyborg]

Originally posted by cookiemonster#6625:

Originally posted by VEVERiku:

if you are fine with collect bananas, to should upgrade it to 4/2/0 or if you are to lazy use 2/0/4. Monkey Village is good to give camo detection to towers without them (0/2/0 upgrade village). Good strategy for beginner maps is to use 0/2/4 wizard and 4/2/0 alchemist very close to him, and next upgrade wizard to 0/2/5 and on the end of the road place spike factory 0/2/5 with another alchemist 4/2/0. extra money you can spend on boccaneer 5/2/0 with village 0/2/0 or if there is no water, monkey ace 2/0/4 with village 0/2/0 and alchemist 4/2/0.

wait is 2/0/4 even worth it? i never seen a difference

if you're referring to 204 or 024, 204 is better if you arent immediately getting to 203 when you get the farm. (023 makes $16 more per round over 203, but 200 > 020)
if you're talking about 204 or 203, 203 is better if you arent planning on going past 100.

[khani]

Originally posted by VEVERiku:

if you are fine with collect bananas, to should upgrade it to 4/2/0 or if you are to lazy use 2/0/4. Monkey Village is good to give camo detection to towers without them (0/2/0 upgrade village). Good strategy for beginner maps is to use 0/2/4 wizard and 4/2/0 alchemist very close to him, and next upgrade wizard to 0/2/5 and on the end of the road place spike factory 0/2/5 with another alchemist 4/2/0. extra money you can spend on boccaneer 5/2/0 with village 0/2/0 or if there is no water, monkey ace 2/0/4 with village 0/2/0 and alchemist 4/2/0.

Alrighty i'll give that a go :D and thanks for the help

Originally posted by Bread:

if you have solid defences by round 40 (good firepower with enough variety to cover all your bases - moabs, camos/camo leads, etc) you can pretty much dedicate rounds 40-90 to farming, making sure to update your defences before 63, 76/78, and 80. just put all your money into building farms. if you do it right you can afford like 5 tier 5s by round 100, depending on which ones you want to get of course. you can keep snowballing from there with more farms.

Thanks for the help too lad :)

[ヅ xFreezYx ヅ]

Remember to chinook ur tier 5 alch to give all your monekys P-Brew :)

[Atomicbean]

I mean, honestly, it really depends on map/difficulty/mode - Maps with water can kind of just cheese to 80 with a pirate or 2, which is significantly less investment than most other options, and lets you kind of just totally focus on Eco.

I've made it to 130 on a match where I just... stopped spending at all around round 90, using primarily necromancers and cannons and next to zero actual support for them, and ended with 800k in the bank. (could've easily made it farther, just wanted the match to end already at that point.)

It REALLY depends.

Eco Focused Pirate cheese is probably the simplest option - Get a map with good water placement, focus entirely on Eco building (banana farm spam, 2/0/4 alch at bloon spawn, hacker monkey, merchantment, etc. - again, dependent on map) and eventually you'll reach the point where you're making around 10-20k/round and can kind of just get whatever upgrades you want, at which point it's just about ability management and tower placement.
2/3/0 ship -> 2/2/0 banana farm -> upgrade to 2/4/0 pirate -> 0/3/2 ship -> upgrade to 0/4/2 ship -> spam eco because nothing is ever going to survive that until post-80, MAYBE toss a monkey village on them at some point. Grab the first 2 ship upgrade monkey knowledges (+pierce, +grape shot). By the time you have to build anything else you should have more than enough cashflow to build just about anything you want.

Could also mess about with an Obyn Druid wall, but that locks you into a specific hero and is a bit less eco friendly than the pirate cheese.

[Red Sword]

Vengeful Sun God + 0/1/1/1 Sun Temple + Grand Sabotuer + Bloon Master Alchemist + Homeland Defense + Perma-Brew + Ultraboost = Round 200+ (I can almost guarantee that, but it does depend on which map you're playing on)

[PichuYang]

How to build VTSG
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/454395715834216459/688497303157473345/Vtsg2.jpg

Why VTSG?
Quality projectiles which make most other options not necessary to improve performance. Such as Sky Shredder, Navy spam, Mauler spam, 20 Shinobi Grandmaster Ninja, etc.

+ Buff
+ Any Support T4 Temple
+ Perma-brew
+ Ultraboost 10 times
+ Homeland Defense and Call to Arms, one of them activate at a time. (cycle)
+ Energizer, reduce cooldown, more for water Monkeys.

Move them away from track to lessen calculations, and don't Ultraboost unnecessary towers, only key ones.

Why VTSG on frozen water?
Because it accepts buffs from Brickell's Naval Tactics and Carrier Flagship.

~ Slowdown
~ Grand Sabotuer and Bloon Sabotage, cycle activation.
~ Low tier MOAB Glue if no Glue Storm.

* Stun/Stall
* 5-2-0 Bloon Impact
* 2-5-0 Icicle Impale
* 2-0-4 MOAB Press spam if no VTSG and said stuff above

- Weaken Bloon
- 5-X-X Cripple MOAB
- 2-5-0 Glue Storm, must use this crosspath to affect MOABs, effect seems stack with Super Glue, but not recommended bcs of Impact + Impale
- 5-X-X Super Brittle
- 0-0-5 Bloon Master Alchemist, bad for Sapper and Crash of the Titans, no need to be near track.

X means any crosspath, sometimes it's hard for me to say you should only use 5-0-2 Cripple MOAB bcs of attack speed, even though 5-1-0 splash the effect.

My Top 3 Freeplay Hero
1. Brickell. Energizer gives 50% bonus cooldown if within radius. Mainly Naval Tactic on VTSG.
2. Gwen. Passively apply damage buff as long as she attacks.
3. Ezili. Destroys BAD, but hard to optimize MOAB Hex to do that if automated with Tech Bot.

Insane MOAB damage but low projectile
0-5-2 MAD
2-0-4 Dark Champion (Much better than spamming Avatars)

[Riot Rainhold]

Use 1set primary Monkey + Monkey Village (4/5.0.2) + Alchemist (4.2.0) + Etienne [R.12] :
1. 2 dart monkey (0.2.4) - Starter Monkey R.6-12 (0.0.0)
3. 2-3 Bomb Shooter (x1 4.2.0, x1-2 0.2.4) - Destroyed Balloon
4. Tack Shooter (2.0.5/5.0.2) - Depend on Money
optional.
5. 1 Ice Monkey (2.0.5) - Good for Slowing dan damaging DDT and Balloon
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Buffer monkey :
1. Wizard Monkey (0.2.5) = build pass R.40, Guaranteed Passing through R.97
2. 1-2/3-4 Monkey Ace (3.2.0/3.0.1) = For Safety Passage through R.40,50-80 (Big Balloon Problem)
3. Rest Super Monkey (2.0.3 - for R.100/2.3.0)
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For Monkey Farming :
(Water Base Map) use Monkey Buccaneer (0.2.3/4/5) x20
Can accumulate +20.000/Round